Gammalite

Com'on Chief , who is gunna back 4 horses to win in one trotting/pacing race ? odds just aren't big enough. with This 'system' you showed with $42 loss , you were DOWN $27 from the Get-Go . only one can win each race. Might as well box the 4 selections in a trifecta each race that Jason picked. AND hope the outsider of the trio wins.?? He got trifectas in 5 races (didn't count his 'fifth' selections any race) divs were $64, $27, $35, $64, and $36 here in small pools. so if $1 BOX each race total of $24 per race = $216. Collect was $226 . A tidy $10 Profit !!!!! lol.......... handsome lol...

The sure fire sign of a fixed race is when a mystery betting plunge appears on the bookies books. Team driving is a different thing (as driver's just working togeather to obtain the best possible result for all their horses) Often NOT stablemates as most seem to think either. Race FIXING is much more serious , as runners are not given the chance at the best possible result by their drivers. It's a SET-UP for one plunge horse to win. Still very hard to prove. In the dozens of races run in Australia daily there will be one somewhere. Bankstown yesterday race 5 , had the early favourite trained by Dean McDowell (son of Colin ) and his Mrs Kerry training. BUT they had a second string runner. Sensationally backed in for a stack, in the last 5 minutes betting before the race, was the kiwi bred Bettor'sDelight horse BETTOR SENSATION. 7-1 odds into even money. Obviously knowing it would beat stable-mate. The race developed nicely with some 'help' around, and BETTOR SENSATION in by 3 lengths easy. !!! That's how you do it folks. nothing to see here.

yes it seems they do Chief . I don't know what they are though. I only go along once a year. It doesn't happen often at all. They're usually just belting along flat out all the time these days (esp. with 'Leader Peter' whizzing along in front often) lol..... Here's a report from last year , shows a steward fine for slow sectional . (and Galahs mate h Barnes too ! lol.....) R1 Nathan Dawson (I Am Serengetti NZ) fined $200 AHR rule 163 (1) (b)(ii) - impeding R4 Peter Greig (Bodhi Tree) fined $200 AHR rule 156(2) - engaging the shoulder when applying the whip. R6 Graham Dwyer (Maywyns Best) fined $200 AHR rule 156 (3) unapproved whip use R7 Adam Sanderson (Smooth Showgirl) fined $150 under AHR rule 162 (1)(y) - slow sectional. R7 Hayden Barnes (Northview Hustler NZ) reprimanded AHR rule 163 (c)(ii) contacting marker peg

I didn't see some of those races to disect your opinion . assume you are accurate . did go back and view the hayden Barnes drive you mentioned on KatachaMan last race at Albion yesterday. and yeah had chance to stay 1-1 early and dropped 4 back on rails instead. a racing decision. whatever. it's a VERY low class horse . I like your philosophy ! and fully agree , Love seeing everyone Always doing their best out there. !!! I like my philosphy too , I just back good horses with good drivers. Group racing they're ALL having a go !! excellent. I made several thousand in July carnival here, Brodster ,Davis and others support weaker company (low class) races ??? that is great really because someone needs to do it. .. betting weaker company Addington Friday was a risk , I just did it for fun , and followed John Dunn for the night (a good driver). so did very well actually. Was Still very disappointed with NED KELLY drive in the last race, but you gave reasons for it , which I accept.!! AND so lose my money supporting weak class (and performed) runners , When should of known better.

If you say certain drivers aren't trying (A very serious accusation) that is definitely 'bagging the driver, No Matter what way you look at it. you have even began 'Generallizing' over several races. Nathan Dawson drives New kiwi horse HECTOR today in R6 , He has drawn the 7 alley. Chances of winning are slim from there !! He will have to drive a brilliant race to win. might fall short but i'll say in advance, he'll be honest as any kiwi driver , and do his best. p.s I'm still recovering from all the quiet drives race 12 Addington the other night lol.............) tongue in cheek.

yes it's hard to argue with stats like that unfortunately . I still find it hard to bag any drivers. i know how hard it is. Hard for horses too. You were disappointed with Spankem form. It's just so fast and competitive. wanted to tell you a horse that I admire greatly with 46 wins from 89 starts. hasn't been able to Win this season (this year) COLT THIRTY ONE , 9 starts this year , 0 wins. That is how hard it has got to win now. Spankem and the Colt are whizzing around in 1.52 .all the time. so quick so just so hard to win. They're beauties though !!

Well there was super racing in July at Albion Park Mr Galah , with the kiwi visitors winning the Group 1's. You are leaving ONE DAY too early . Tuesday sees three (3) new super u-beaut kiwis turned up in town !!!!! After only 4 out 5 for Karrots last week I'll give you a Pick '5' swansong to enjoy , as you give up on Albion lol...... Lets take the 2 kiwis Grant Dixon won with last week , along with the three NEW KIWI's !!! $350-1 Sportsbet HelloJoeleneJoelene R1, Sugarinspice R2, AwholeLottaRosie R4, Hector R6, and AltaSensation R8 seems that Hector, SugarinSpice and Alta Sensation have abandoned your shores as well. ?????? Queensland virtually another NZ state now for harness racing, so you should hang around. !!! good luck if you take the Bet !!

Brendon does get better results than brother Hayden. Hayden Barnes being the driver in the last race today at Albion on KATACHA MAN that you weren't happy with. $9.50 third fav here. Hayden only drives roughies. won 100 from a thousand drives last season , but only 22 from 300 drives this year. That is lean indeed , !!!!!!!!!!! here's the odds and placings he drove this month. Think I'd just go and sell cars or something lol............ Date Track Race Horse Placing Margin Odds 06-09-2021 Albion Park 7 9. KATACHA MAN 8 16.5m $9.5 06-09-2021 Albion Park 6 3. CHANCELESS CENTURY 3 3.3m $8 06-09-2021 Albion Park 5 4. THE LAST DRAGON 10 85.7m $8 06-09-2021 Albion Park 4 7. NON PASSARE 6 27.2m $31 05-09-2021 Marburg 4 8. MY ULTIMATE HELL 5 27m $61 04-09-2021 Albion Park 1 9. AT WEST POINT NZ 6 17.3m $81 03-09-2021 Albion Park 1 3. OHOKA JIMMY NZ 8 9.4m $51 02-09-2021 Redcliffe 9 3. HESLUVABLE 6 16.7m $16 02-09-2021 Redcliffe 6 6. THE CASUAL GOOSE 6 16.4m $71 02-09-2021 Redcliffe 3 3. VERMONT 6 19.9m $51

Son shouted me to the Gabba AFL final for Fathers Day present. Excellent game ! but Lions sadly lost by a point. People were booing and throwing things at the umpires at the final siren as they walked off !!!!!!! seriously the amount of abuse was terrifying. Officials doing their job as best they see it. Strong comparison with Stipes . People lie to them !! I lied to them .(just blamed horse usually) it is an impossible job. They are/were/sometimes hated because they effect your living and operation. In the 90's All that whip stuff started up . Stewards fined drivers all over the place. They came down stable area to inspect horses arses after a race to look for welts even !! , so they could fine you. we hated the bastards lol.. so gave the driving away altogeather along with abut 15 other drivers. But really the stipes just doing a job.

I agree it isn't a great betting medium (Brisbane trots) as they more or less wait for a good draw to go for the win. Don't forget , These horses race week to week and are not many are set for features or anything , or even a punt really , like we used to do. They just pay their way with lower prizemoney than NZ. same drivers drive the same tactics over the same distances Boring. As Brodster says really. You can still punt and win. I don't watch them often these days at all ( I bet Victoria gallops generally with a system) but last Tuesday had a look at Albion and tipped some for Karrots . I got 50% of the TAB quaddie by just taking the kiwi breds with good drivers . It was three Bettor's Delight and BLACK HAWK JOE , who is a visotor who has hung around for good interstate trainer Rickie Alchin. So was (Let's hustle (McMullen), Wholelottarosie (Dixon) , Recipe forDreamin (McMullen) , and BlackHawk Joe) . $275 for 50c . Just take kiwibreds with Leading Drivers !!!!!!!!! a proven formula I always use. might take one tomorrow now lol.........

I believe stewards do a great job. For Drivers : rules applied/enforced to provide a Safe working environment for the combatants. For trainers : swabs, raids, horse Race gear items listed and enforced , tactics quizzed multiple runners ,etc to provide a Level playing field. For Punters : monitoring of betting activity, quiz of failure of heavy supported runners in races, etc. Like a Ref at the footy, stipes are not liked by some, But are definitely doing a necessary Job. Just don't be disillusioned by the odd decision not going your way.

By golly you guys are harsh. Olivia Thornley got a stretch of time too. HOW on earth are drivers supposed to improve when they get long suspensions when not had many drives. ? don't understand it. I posted about KRUG above , in the Group 1 sires stakes . Do you think a long stint would help Blair. I got suspensions while learning on 3 occasions . WASTE OF TIME . you come back less experienced than getting drives in the meanwhile. (POOR Olivia , just sad) I put John McMullen over the fence too lol, and down into the lagoon at Redcliffe , came up out of the lagoon like the 'Swamp creature' lol. .....was worth the suspension !! lol....

Came home in 58.4 half and a 30 second last quarter. Couldn't of gone for it hard enough IMO lol... Blair O .mmmm 10 drives for No Wins today . hope you not putting too much on ...... might of been 18.00 for Saginaw

Unfortunately after talking to a few senior drivers today Ross is on a hiding to nothing, there are a few reasons why Ross steered back to the inside safety and horse welfare again Unfortunately don't get recognized. Punter perception seems to be the overriding factor in stipes decisions. All this discussion about a difficult to drive horse ,named SAGINAW , who was rank outsider in a little race. I still think of KRUG on CUP DAY 10th Nov, a heavily favoured runner , driven by a driver everyone here seems to like named BLAIR ORANGE. race was Race 8 The Sires Stakes Final. A feature Group 1 race. KRUG sat one -one all the way getting beautiful trip. (like Saginaw on Friday). Then KRUG refused to move to outside as they turned in to home straight around the death horse. This can happen now and then !!!!!. So Blair steers it back to inside , gets badly held up , and only runs 4th . Huge amount of money lost on it. WHO's at fault ??? Trainer? Driver? Horse? or Punter? (they all lost) and Blair didn't get time for that driving decision? maybe should of for failure to get horse to outside lol............ Why should Ross then? Advice >>>>>>>Just tell stewards horse difficult to drive Ross !!!! and Superbass was shifting wider early in straight as well , making it harder to come around it than earlier as well. And point out Krug lol......

Every race there are drivers that make SPLIT SECOND decisions that may gain you the victory or MORE THAN LIKELY cost you victory . Because there is heaps of rivals doing Exactly the same thing. Ross is extremely inexperienced with 220 race drives , you have to learn and gather number of drives to earn not just 'reputation' with your peers but ability to make those strategic SPLIT SECOND decisions. 5 drives per meeting I was told is best to achieve this. He Literally pulled the wrong reign (rein) and looked a bit contentious because of it. BUT didn't effect the chances of any other runner ? nor endanger anybody (as often happens at the gallops even with the very best like Bowman and Berry that hospitilized fellow jockeys and killed the rival horses over past year.) I have trouble agreeing with the 'Dishing out huge Penalties ' when you just make a mistake that only costs yourself badly. Actually happens more than you think. I pointed out race 12 Addington, earlier in thread here, full of those mistakes . Much more serious if you 'Take someone else ' out of play. give them 3 months Ant's Butt cleaned up King of Swing recently in Brisbane and got a month. It's a TOUGH business > race driving.

Very poor decision to go inside the death horse , when had ample time to pull outside just as they turned for home (or before if he wanted) Tis a shame , as Cameron drove SAGINAW brilliantly early part of race to get one-one sit from awkward alley. Three months for steering inside another runner instead of outside it ?? harsh , harsh harsh. What about the LAST race won by FireFox .Race 12. 3rd and 5th, G Thornley and John Dunn, Asian Elvis and Ned Kelly. looked to me both travelling well enough at quarter. (middle half was 61.2 seconds) Driver O'Reilly put himself into race with Life of Art and ran 4th with a great 'Attempt to WIN' drive. Meanwhile John and Gemma both refused to make a move until home straight , from 4 and 5 back running line ? STILL 8th and 9th 150m out even. No way they gave horses best chance of winning ???? Thoughts ?? bring back Natalie my main thought lol...... wouldn't see her driving uncompetitive like that! lol........

congrats to John Dunn with 4 winners through the first half (6 races) of the program. Hoping he can match that in the second half of the card ! 7-8 winners on the day could be possible.

What about your Cambridge corners ! a winner or 2 coming around the bends yet? Rage no good , you only end up like Molloy or Forbury! lol. yeah bottle of vino will help . good luck to you too .......

com'on Karrots , i'm half way through the carton now , being a beautiful Friday and Big John Dunn is raking in the dollars , can't take over anything at present lol......

Well Race 2 hits the line , and all is fine for BIG JOHN , big john, Big bad John....... lalala.... How did you go with that one Chief ? only $17.00 and $4.20 a place for Mr Dunn in the second on Sportsbet. I feel violated as paid $25 / $5 on the tote. !! dang it.

ELEPHANT steps up to a Group 2 WFA tomorrow at Moonee Valley after winning his first 5 starts for NZ . Is he able to take that step ? and CRUSH the opposition once again. carries 59kg this time? but drawn the 1 alley. Give it a shake for the kiwis anyway ? At Brisbane some more animals involved , where we have the RATTLESNAKE racing in Race 8 Eagle Farm. Is Sure to give the opposition a shake and recoiling in terror lol.

Well John takes out Race 1 and pays $7.00 . thank you very much . Keep em' comin' John lol !!!

Good call Jason !! that won very easily from the good barrier draw. Fergo must be pinching himself getting all these BIG BAR stable drives !! gunna have a good day I suspect.

Thanks for tips Karrots. chucked a spare dollar on the place multi Sportsbet. (Have to be in first 3, Don't have that Top 4 thingy in Oz unfortunately . 100- 1 exactly if all run a place !! excellent. John Dunn a big chance of driving 5 (and close with another 3) today !!! having fun without Nat and Mark lol.....

Pretty short then , should be win or bust hahaha, and why is the FFA a stand? so old Whitesocks might miss away? just get em' all on the gate and all away safely is what they should do.? (saves more punters losing faith and/or money on gallopers) The FFA trot is a mobile , but I reckon the trots races 1 and 4 will be 'chaos' at the start.