Gammalite

Brodie , once again you are IGNORING the fact that horses are BETTER placed in Oz by astute trainers !!!! That's the point Marky Mark is making. I WOULD NOT race my horse in a lot of those places in NZ , like rough grass tracks and long distance races , and standing starts and the Many things NZ trainers do to their horse. It Flattens them mate !!, they lose confidence in those big fields mate !! no wonder so many are out of form??? and no wonder they easily 'find form' with shorter distance racing (that you constantly criticise amongst other things) , smaller fields , better grades/ class racing and better placement and training in Australia. and you say you can bet 6 figures on them in NZ ? lol... better your money than smart punters money I spose. lol....

From Tuesday even Aussies can come on over to kiwiland. 55,000 used Brisbane airport yesterday for Easter holidays going all over the place. Took kids there and they flew off to Melbourne and Adelaide. NZ will be swamped shortly no doubt.. Hopefully a few will go over to support THE RACE , (and someone can knock Mark off) doesn't win as much as he used to . I see Nicky Chilcott beat him at Auckland the other night. Hope for All afterall.

Best ride I've ever seen. Take a Bow Nash Rawiller !! A field of very smart wet-trackers.... Nash wins the race with the non-mudder by daring solo tactic !!! THINK IT OVER is exciting Queen Elizabeth winner . how good was that ??? supreme.

Not sure what you are let get under your skin there. Yes the Gold Coast harness/greyhounds tracks was a sad demise for the Commonwealth games 2018. If talking racing , I would say the Racing and Harness racing are First class in Australia still, VERy very Big race day today with Sydney Cup etc.... (along with a multitude of other sports. 100,000 going to the grand Prix this weekend, and 200,000 attend the footy each week etc, better than living Ukraine ? lol.... 600,000 kiwi nationals live in Aus. They can't all be wrong???. Perhaps they will back the NZ champion Verry Elleegant today and get a great run for their money. 'Copy That' is back too. Just see he won the First at Riccarton today !!!! lol... good trainers those kiwis ? get em to do all sorts of things lol.

Young kiwi lad Jack Mackinnon (26) has turned up in Victoria with a hot trotter too. Why not have something on SILVER POWER in Bendigo Trotters Cup tonight (11.30 NZ time I think)? defeated by a good one first up in Aus named I'm Ready Jet (who is not in tonight) Maybe Jack can take out the Group 2 for another Big NZ win ?? best of luck to him anyways..

Not a bad bet in that field. Very fortunate the favourite took the leader on a lap out for Sam, but 4 lengths win in the end for HOT TO TROT. very convincing and nice. Love Sam's driving myself (and what a Great Name for a Trotter lol... ) Hey ! should we double up on Anamoe now ?? good luck if having a crack again.!!! solid field with the NZ champ Verry Elleegant involved as well. will be a cracker .

With Sam Ottley driving HOT TO TROT to win the first race at Addington , once again proving the mobile is the true asset in helping get horses on the journey and competitive. The Queensland trotting Championship Group 3 was completed just now and some great old NZ horses did have great manners from the stand as it turned out. REGAL APPOINTMENT with the best trainer driver Grant Dixon taking the victory , trotting very well after leaving NZ after a Methven win last Christmas. second best trainer Pete McMullen running second with an old 'Barron family' trotter in 'Riley Moment'. also in the field were some old kiwi 'fav's' in Majestic Harry, Mikemaro, Father Christmas, BD Khaosan etc, so was like a regular old 'South Island' line-up at Albion !!. great stuff.

'Young Quinn' for New Zealand did as well (win from outside 6 alley) in the 70's. A fair effort to do that at the old Harold Park track in Sydney with fairly tight turns (it closed 2010)

Yes in that photo of Locarno, number 9 deep down on the rail running 3rd is WATBRO (Alex Milne) from the far far south. Haughty Romeo from down that way I think , was also in the field. They travelled a long way to have a crack at the Messenger for many years. Please leave it for 4 yearolds . You need 'Age' classics (apart from the Jewels) to keep exciting racing going . (and just a few dominating)

Great to see people remember the flashy one ! after 40 + years . Locarno winning the Messenger on my very first night out at the harness racing , at Alexandra Park 1978. Brilliant racing at Christmas every year. Was there to see more South Islanders Tempest Tiger and Melton Monarch take out the Messenger through the following years too. Great to see the Derby horses progress. Locarno went on to take a Miracle Mile against some of the best ever in Aus. (pure Steel, Paleface Adios, Koala King) Here's a great memory photo !!!! excellent.

Arden Rooney as well for the NZ Cup (or is he still a NZer ???) mmmmmm lol.

Yes and with Alto Orlando raced by Robert and John Dunn (pretty well known in Canterbury) you could say it's a NZ victory ! Personally i always give most credit to the 'Training' team . but all good . still love a NZ victory !!!

How cool is that !! Great to see some Aussies flying in , to try and kick some kiwi butt and pluck THE Race at it's inaugural running. Grimson managed to win the Interdominion with a claimer so must be a sharp Trainer and go close to the win. Gammalite, My Lightning Blue, I'mTheMighty Quinn , Westburn Grant, Smoken Up and Our SirVancelot were all a fair while ago now , flying over to win the Very Big races in NZ for Aussie trainers ............ so lets add to that list !!! lol..... lets go Majestic Cruiser, (and Orlando and Memphis)

Yes Thor on the left and Rusty on the right are Immortals I believe. lol.. Desert Gold ? she was pretty good back in the day (a few Group 1's and 36 wins from 59 runs) from that area somewhere.

Yeah Steve sadly missed (bloody stingray) amongst some fine Aussie lads that do a lot to put Oz on the map. Warnie pretty handy with his balls in his day too, had a big send-off last night at MCG with 60,000 attending. In the harness world we lost Gavin Lang and Vinnie Knight much too young.

I don't know Michael House Brodster ,, but I Love him !! lol....... anyone that does something pro-active to keep harness racing alive anywhere (including Manawatu where I haven't been actually) is a 'Gun' 'Top' bloke IMO, like Steve Irwin lol. And I know a lot here hate Auckland trots etc, but shouldn't wish it closed ....there's great tradition involved ,what a track it's been, wrong way round and all !!!!! Surely some 'Ingenious kiwis' are plotting how to keep it going ? Can we get Michael House to campaign some teams up there ?? what a legend.. wishing him (MH) many a winner chicken dinner !! (and yourself too of course)

Stake money Manawatu looked similar to South Islands tracks. 5,000-5,500 for maidens, then 6,000-7,000 as you step up a notch and so on. Bit better than Queensland actually.

Grimson and Trainor horses were 'locked up' in the retention barn a year ago for about a month . The stewards ( and everyone ) were wondering about the dramatic Improvement they get with every runner. (And even won the Interdominion with a claimer horse in Dec lol.....) They kept observation for a month but found nothing .... horses kept racing well. I'm gunna call it now !!! . that ex-pat kiwi Jack Trainor will WIN 'the RACE' when he turns up at Cambridge with STYLISH MEMPHIS in a week or two. There ya go .. there's one for you . she's flying at present.

His property in a low lying area too,, so probably copped flooding as soon as he moved in . Albion Park nearly repaired now, all resurfaced and about to let rip. She's a great track to drive on. Was thinking of asking Tim for a job and making a comeback lol.... young Riley seems to drive good , and love the kiwi horses.

So the theory is , for punters , you want them to hope the horses they haven't got on their tickets gallop out the back ? That is ONE harsh betting strategy. ...... Punters that desparate they need the opponents to make mistakes to win anything . what has the sport become. ? good grief. What goes round , comes round. I could never wish bad luck/manners/ starts on the opposition. You don't want your horse galloping out the back so why wish it on opponents?. for the sake of a few dollars ? what ? Whether I'm betting, driving in the race or whatever, That would be almost like wishing injuries to your opponents in a footy match. just not right somehow. competitive playing field for all (and FAIR start for all runners in any event makes it a BETTER SPECTACLE ) As a harness fan I'm much more keen to see the 'whole' field race togeather and NOT see the good ones (e.g like Muscle Mountain lately) or even the dodgey ones (like Silver Linings today) gallop out the back , whether I'm betting or not.

Fact of the matter is I watched the Video. ....SilverLinings trotted away 9th . It was a 9 horse field. All 9 horses handicap was off the front. All 9 trotted off the mark . 4 x Facts for you. Any advantage you think he had or got at the start is In Your Head. probably After slandering him with this thread ?? asking him to be banned/ barred you're just reacting because he trotted away and Won. The world isn't ending mate because you're wrong. Congrats to the horses connections , and well done Mr Starter !!!!! great to see the whole field trot away well. Bad Luck with your call of Silverlinings Mr Brodster. Better Luck next time. When you get some gallopers maybe.

They walk forward in the NZ Cup the last few years , rather than have a heap of them miss away , how good ??? yes indeed. Horses don't like standing still for an extended period of time. You ALL know that too ?? I drove about 250 stand races. We had to park our horses head over the tape nearly , so the back row horses were not 'Too Far Back' from us at the tape release moment. way harder than anything you see these days. It's a TRICKY BUSINESS , you have shorteners on the hopples and all sorts of things to worry about, as you get going. The race today you complain about IMO , was SUPER super super good. Better than those big fields with them all cannoning in to each other and that sort of thing. You complain today ? you'd complain about anything ?? oh ...wait on ..... lol........

Wasn't it Excellent !!!! ALL 9 trotters trotting away compared to the normal shambles you get from the stupid stands they persist with , when there's a perfectly good mobile barrier parked nearby. They're all trotting away in this Waimate race !! excellent !! . and you guys still complain . hehehehe

Horse trotted away 9th . there was 9 runners. No advantage gained. 1 horse broke after 100m which was the first one it passed. Was Nothing wrong with the start as per my previous post above.

I disagree. Sure the horse was walking forward and being steered around the outside horse in that front row at a fast walk up. But it was a GREAT START for all the 9 horses who ALL trotted away , and a great display by the starter and ALL the drivers . Excellent stuff. no interference to anyone or anything. Great lot of drivers in Race 4 Waimate today. They put up a good showing on average class trotters. very good racing. !!