mikeynz

Me thinks I'm going to stop betting on sports completely, as for racing, good question.

The Herilys and the like they could move, Pukekohes trainers may be soon if they're is no traing centre.😎 I'm really just taking the piss😁

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Now come on Gamma why be negative about Westport ?..the Boxing Day meeting they run is one of the biggest event turnover wise for the season, if the funds generated went back to the Club then maybe they could run a Kaikoura type meeting instead of running a 25000 cup race thats seems to begetting decimated more and more each year by running same ratings race in Canterbury 3 days later, why should they be subsidizing Auckland who are losing the industry money, gee got to stand up for the little guys here, it's not all about the ribbon of light.

I think Harness Racing have a small band of loyal supporters, but as time goes by that number will slowly dwindle, there are many meetings that simply have no appeal to people, no different to a lot of our Rugby in using a synergy, if that's the right word, it's happening there too. Entain can't lose as long as they stay in for the long haul.

Maybe purely my imagination, the quaddie at Addington was better, but today's figures up till now not flash.

Today's 2 meetings so far, very ordinary, could that be because of 2 meetings..........but contradicting that Friday nights 2 meeting looked a slight improvement, no Friday night rugby, could that be a factor?

Most of the markets for many sports they could do without but I've noticed no corner betting on USA soccer once game kicks off, might be same for other games too, that and goals are the 2 good options for live soccer, along with head to head and halftime markets, many of the others are not necessary, truth be known no one bothers with them.

Sports betting helps the overall income generated, but I'm picking sports betting to take a hit, the in play platform bet365 had has disappeared, how does that matter, well having info up to second is vital for live play, you had one page with all the soccer games or baseball etc etc I always used that for info but bet on TAB who do offer a pretty good offering but it lags a wee bit, no longer getting notifications means I've got 2 choices stop betting live or stare at the screen as I don't get notifications anymore, that would get tiresome.

Some of these points have some validity, there a pros for and against running 2 meetings on same day,, one you are engaging harness fans on Friday and Sunday for 4 meetings who for various reasons may not engage if all those 4 meetings were at different times, people do have to live outside the internet sometime other things come along but the long intervals is not good, setting times on Sunday will be helped when the dogs cease, by rights gallops should only race 1 meeting on Sunday, they get Saturday, Harness Sunday, more than likely most bets come in the last 3 minutes, take note of the pools and you will see so running 3 meetings can work nicely with 10 minute gaps. The other issues of overspending on 2yo racing in particular and the handicapping , we've all discussed them in great detail but gettingn those things right will improve the product from a financial viewpoint, which is number 1 2 and 3 when looking forward.

Blocking betting on overseas sites won't alter betting on harness racing, I'm not really sure if it will affect racing as a whole but it would be a bit rich if both equine codes glady accepted proceeds from greyhound racing from Oz if it's a no goer here.........but sports betting will be, losing the up to date live sport platform of bet365 means info will now feed slower into people and if that info is slow who loses out, TAB, you could use 365 for info but thd TAB site for punting, when it comes to live sports betting seconds lost can make a big difference,

Imagine how frustrating it must be for Southern trainers having to travel and then turning around and going home without even racing, spend all that time and cost for nought.

Good points, to the first post, maybe those thoughts and Mark Jones comments should be taken to heirachy of HRNZ and get their ideas, or explain their gameplan.

If you have room, add me.

Guerin is told what his employers want him to say.

Should have 2 maiden classes, those that ain't been in first 5 in last 5 starts are b, the rest are a , bs could race for half stake esclusively and remain a maiden until it wins a A grade maiden, just a idea. 5 starts after wins have no ratings drop, just my thoughts, that will slowly ease congestion but add some numbers up the ratings a little.

Would be interesting to gauge how much they like horses if they stop being a cash cow, there has been a small number winning all the races for young ones making a fast buck at the expense of the rest of the toilers.

Some big noms in some races yet starting limit for some is 10, why's that ?

I spoke Mr Youl or whatever his name in Tasmania probably does OK with only 4 being paid lol Would be very interesting if you only paid first 4 or 5, Racing would be a lot keener, no need to run a bye or two just to readjust the ratings.

Not from Monday, that's probably the easiest one , if you only have 6 and you can't beat the other 5 then you lose a point, so many anomalies, Southland sometimes take noms for rating 45 to 62, often have 2 rating 60s racing 51, that's not really like for like, the 62 wins and it goes to 66 67, the 51 wins it goes 55 56,

You will recall 2 years ago thick snow saw the last races canned, it is winter.

Despite the fact that it's free in tercourse, even that hasn't helped crowds many who do go probably gave up that pastime long ago🥸

I note Mr House has pointed out horses placed 5th don't lose a rating point,(may have been only 4) but the ratings system allows for manipulation which means sometimes they ain't trying, I still believe 6 starts after a win before you get any ratings relief, genuine struggles get help, maybe under that system they might all be trying, also the maidens don't have a rating until they win, but then should a maiden that beats 5 at Manawatu get same penalty as winning against 14 at Methven, lots of anomalies, why they continue to have rating 120 the max is beyond me.

They could investigate the possibility of a mini meeting at Ascot Park or something similar.