Brodie

I am known as “Mr Honesty” Ranga! You upset me by your suggestion

We have no idea as to how much is being offloaded on fixed odds at meetings as we are not shown this! What I do know is that the TAB are severely affecting their turnover due to the pathetic amounts they are prepared to accept from punters! How about they be more transparent and advertise what bet amounts are being wagered. I personally would not consider the TAB is being KIND in thinking that $200 is a large amount for a punter to win. What Bookmaker thinks that the pathetic amount of $200 is worth a punter bothering

Why are you uncomfortable Ranga? Tight undies? Restrictions are everywhere including agencies where you are subjected to identifying yourself when you wager or collect $1k?

And how is that possible. Restrictions are on everywhere

So what is your line of thinking Ranga? Be a major losing punter and then you wont get restricted? What I do know is that the Bookies need to act as Bookies and take as much money as they can. Percentage wise they will always come out on top! Restrict punters to nothing will just drive the industry into the ground.

Great! Can hardly wait, wont be sleeping with excitement! What is it with these clubs trying to turn the punters off with these sprint races? NZ standardbreds are trained for staying races I wouldve thought? Anyway if that is what the clubs think will bring the punters onboard then so be it! Only thing is that the TAB do not want to take your bets! Is there anyone out there that is able to get plenty on nowadays??

Lol if they are talking out of their arse then I suggest they need to employ different staff Unhinged. If as you suggest that harness turnover is increasing then we can clearly look forward to our owners horses racing for far more than $8k in the future???? Love to see the figures from this $1.1million turnover day broken down.

Tote pool 700k so fixed odds therefore $400k! What was the course turnover do you know? Do you know what the tote pools were for win and place at all? How am I to do some homework so that I am able to get accurate figures to quantify what the win and place pools actually were yesterday. Addington tote win and place pools have significantly decreased to what they used to be! Look forward to your reply Unhinged.

There is a lot of figures given out by racing people including the NZ TAB and we all know that they were insolvent! Auckland TC run races for far bigger stakes than they should be as it is costing the industry. If they are turning over over $1 million then lets see how this is made up! The tote pools win and place suggest that turnover on the tote is way down on what used to be wagered. I also suggest that fixed odds wagering could well be down as the NZ TAB just wont take bets of any significance from many punters so turnover is not increasing! How many people actually know of people that are getting into punting on harness horses? I would suggest quite the opposite, punters not bothering as that is my experience over the last couple of years. Many of the regulars that used to always be oncourse never bother nowadays. You only need to look on Trackside tv coverage to see buggerall oncourse

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! FFS! What imbecile dropkick has programmed this????? This is just crazy shit that just should not be happening!!!!! harness racing is doomed if they think punters are going to be bothered with this crap!!! Forbury one lappers was a failure and now another Club thinks they will give it a go? OK last one out please turn out the lights as we have knumbskulls running some of the harness clubs.

Purdon always attended the Oz sales other years Chief. They may well nkt be spending as much time at the Stables that they used to! Reality is that not much has changed and Cullen is just the name in the racebook as trainer.

Lol no Club in NZ would be that dumb Davis! Seriously, mile racing is just so not worth betting into.

Can you actually give us a clearer breakdown of this $1.1 million? Seems very high wouldn’t you think? There mustve been a helluva lot of fixed odds bets and exotics for it to be anywhere near that figure. Thats $100k per race and as we know $10k in each tote pool on the tote is quite high nowadays! Look forward to the breakdown from the TAB shortly then?

Big Bang, you are very easily excited then?

What is not a great look and profitable is 5 horse races and good stakes! How long can this continue before stakes are dropped?

Gamma, yes harness is struggling big time for punters. Was speaking to someone the other day who is in the know and confirmed that harness turnover is declining which most of us must know. Tote pools mostly are nothing like they used to be and unless others are able to get decent fixed odds bets on then that wagering will be declining. How on earth is harness racing going to attract new punters to offload when they dish up this stupid short distance racing. I know some will come on and say it was a success and they enjoyed it but as a spectacle today it was pretty boring. Even several of the winners today you would not have touched going on previous performances, so why would punters bother?? Gamma, you are correct the stands over 1700m are not a fair playing field. No doubt Methven will run the short distance races again and trainers will support them but as an attraction for the punter yeah/nah

Terrible racing. Stands over 1700m? May well be easier on the horse, just terrible for form and punting!! Harness is struggling if we have to resort to this crap!

Why?.....

Ranga, it doesn’t affect me really as I don’t punt much nowadays. Didnt do the punting for financial reasons, don’t need to . Brodie prerogative to point out truths and whether you agree with them is your prerogative. Aa for egg on the face, not sure about that but if it makes you happy then so be it!

Lets just see what happens going forward! Why did they announce this socalled handing over to Cullen if they were going to be around as much as they are? Some people will believe anything, just look at the followers of Ardern!!! People hang on every word and every decision and het this is the most inept government that NZ has ever had without doubt! Not a single success with anything they campaigned on!

Do I know what they are doing at the stables? I have a pretty good idea! It all seems a very very strange setup indeed. If they were wan ting to take things easy and step back a bit, then why did they just not set up a partnership with Cullen??????????

Do not agree Chief. If they wanted more of a relaxed lifestyle why did the stable change over to Hayden Cullen? Why didnt they just leave the stable as the AllStars and had Hayden Cullen as stable foreman? They havent left the stable at all and nothing has changed at all except the colours which weren’t going to be originally. Not sure about conspiracy theories but it is a load of bollacks that Purdon/Rasmussen has handed over the reigns to Cullen!!!

How does bleating make someone a sheep? Quite the opposite I would’ve thought?

Basil, clearly you like being controlled. Brodie does not appreciate being controlled and will always voice an opinion when something is wrong. NZ. Is meant to be a democracy, however it is far from this now. There is so many things nowadays that are being dictated to society that is just so wrong and I am not like you Basil, a sheep!

Restrictions on Saint Basil would be a great leap forward!