Brodie

With respect Chief, what has that got to do with big time property development and decision making? What sort of a job did she do at the Chch Town hall that aualified her for the ATC and the Dunedin casino? Watched her once when she was talking about the apartments at Alexandra Park and she seemed quite clueless, but then I do not hang around with these loser execs!!!,

So this Domonique Dowding stuffs up big time with the ATC and had no idea back in 2014 and now Dunedin Casino has her in charge! How on earth these hopeless socalled executives continue to obtain highly paid roles is very mind boggling! Dowding has success with what does anyone know? The ATC losing tens of millions is unbelievable when the land was free and house prices have increased dramatically over many years! John Allan from the TAB is just another example of a niller that leaves destruction wherever he goes!

Thanks Karrots would be interested to find out the financial result from the project! Is there commercial property in the complex owned by the ATC that will gibe them an ongoing return? Did they manage to sell their commercial properties that they were trying to sell do you know?

Karrots, appreciate that it was extremely poorly managed, but has the ATC made any money, broken even or made a loss are you aware?

Have they made any money at all or is it a loss for the ATC?

Would be a damn sight cheaper Ranga!

Good to hear that some of the apartments are being lived in. Does anyone know if they are all sold as I am sure there were many that pulled out due to time over run? With all the extra costs including legal expenses has the ATC actually covered its costs bearing in mind the land was free? Would be good watching the racing from the apartments with your own food and bevies!

TB

Yeah it ran 3rd not bad fixed place odds, but I didnt end up backing it as restrictions were too harsh a d so didnt bother after that! Enthusiasm for punting comes and goes nowadays and if the NZ TAB dont want punters then I will not play their silly games! They should be encouraging punters to offload rather than stopping them from offloading.

The Premier meeting races are not always that exciting. The tight class racing is normally very over rated! I take it that Purdon/Rasmussen are still totally involved with the day to day running of the stable, so much for taking time off!

Was thinking that myself Galah. Hey there was a big jumps race on though from OZ that every NZ punter would know the form to and would have had a big punt! As I have said previously, the NZ TAB does not give a rats about harness racing in NZ, the money to them is from OZ as the costs are so low. The fact that it is a Premier meeting means nothing to them!

Just can not wait until we have Jewels day, mile racing at Cambridge! Seriously needs to be changed to 2200m would be so much better! Forget about miles, boring and unfair and Jewels day is over rated and a huge cost to the industry.

Premier night racing at Addington where the fields are pretty even and the TAB Bookies/Accountants still think it is prudent to put heavy restrictions on punters? You would think that they would be KIND and reasonable and have the ability to think that they would be safe to encourage punters to offload! But alas, no we can not have certain punters offloading with the sole legal betting agency in NZ, in case they WIN!!! NZ TAB Accountants, you have a seriously flawed business policy that is affecting NZ harness racing. Your punters are voting with their feet/wallets and stating that turnover is increasing is just plain bollacks. you are in Dreamland if you think punters are putting more and more on and that there is new harness punters coming on board! You are relying on Sports Betting and Ozzie gallops for your income and harness punters can go away!

Karrots everyone just contemplating what a great betting card at Addington Saturday night! Personally after looking at the fixed odds there is only one horse all night that is paying odds that are worth taking. Motukarara fields Monday arvo are far better but then it ks going to be a very difficult day, as the track ks going to be on the slow side you would think!

It is a load of BS when they spurt out that wagering on racing is increasing! You only have to look at the pathetic tote pools on most races nowadays, certainly racing is losing its interest for many former enthusiasts! Tote decreasing and fixed odds you just can not get enough on to make it worth the effort! The only thing that will be a keeping racing going in NZ is the sports betting and the Oz racing where the costs are low.

Blair Orange drives very professionally! The fact remains that he had less alcohol in his blood than what is acceptable to be able to drive a car! Yes there is a rule but as we all should know there are plenty of dumb rules that need amending! Blairs driving ability would not have been affected by a small amount of alcohol still registering in his blood. He would be able to drive a damn site better than most kf the kther drivers with one eye closed!

There is an amount that drivers are allowed and Blair was very slightly over! By the time he wouldve been driving the reading wouldve been zero!, A small amount of alcohol in the blood would not be of any danger to other drivers whatsoever If there was a danger then the limit should be ZERO!

Dont think he would be expecting anything other than a life ban from racing. Personally although he has done a lot wrong, hopefully things improve for Mitchell, and he gets thru ok. What I would like to know is how come the betting agency whatever it was in Oz, allowed him to lose such big amounts? The NZ TAB advertises that it cares about losing punters in NZ! They also care about winning punters as well, so much so they stop them from punting so they are a really caring bunch aren’t they?

Gammalite, he would not have been over any limit when he jumped in the cart to drive! They would be better to scrutinise the nilness of some of the drivers that are incompetent! Blair is not incompetent!

Gammalite, firstly It was not JJ that I was intimating was wanking on about The AllStars at all, so keep up! Blair Orange was not a drunk driver either!!!! Brodie’s perogative to point out the error of the NZ TAB’s ways and their very poor ethics, in that they treat punters unequally! Not too much fun for Brodie, probably not enough on Premier night Gamma?

JJ Flash, I am at a loss as to what your agenda is? Chief, runs a very fair forum BOAY, gives everyone the opportunity to discuss things! We wont always agree with each other all the time and we will have the odd slightly heated discussion. What I suggest you do is not to come over to the Brightside just to cause mayhem. If you are happier over on the Dark Side then stay over there and do not waste your time on here as most of the time, you are pissing many off! I was banned from the Darkside along with many many others for having an opinion that was different to the clown that runs the site!!!! It was no loss in fact it was probably of benefit to myself. We will Let the nutters that wanked on about the AllStars stable, that never bet and have orgasms over them to their own devices! As for Chief I have never met, but is doing a great job in allowing racing enthusiasts voice an opinion. Long may it continue!

Without Telfer in the North Island, it would be in an even more precarious position. Still have doubts that racing in the north can continue the way it is with the stake money it currently pays due to the small fields and dwindling owners, trainers and drivers. The industry can not afford it and there is no way that they are profitable currently, has to be supported by Sports betting.

You are correct Galah. You only need to go out country and see all the deteriorating unused horse boxes around a d no horses in sight! A lot of the older trainers have just given it away! Several of our younger trainers that have given it a go are ousted! Purdon and co on the sidelines for awhile! No money in racing horses in NZ nowadays at all. I saw on Trackside yesterday Harness Flashbacks of a race in the United States many many decades ago for $65,000 USD. We have races for $8k??????? Seriously, why would owners bother?

Why were they backing it and so short?

Just wondering what the reason for the scratching is?