Brodie

To be fair his horses are racing against very average horses compared to South Island horses. Not a patch on what Barry used to do!

Years ago Gamma! Things have changed dramatically! Why?

Must be Chief, and Barry hasnt got as good a eye as Mark clearly!

JJ, no need for the snide remark about Chief! Personally do not know him, but from what I read he is a very knowledgeable bloke, and runs a very good site. You do not have to agree with everyone and we wont, however the fact that currently we can debate topics is good! As I said before, never heard of this TopSport, and I will do so e looking into, re NZ harness with them. Cheers

So why is Barry Purdon not as dominant in the North Island? Clearly not as professional and hasn’t got the same eye and vet as Mark?

JJ, do you know for sure that they won’t stop punters from wagering what they want? Are they different from the other betting agencies?

None as far as I am aware! Will look into this Topsport this week if I can get an account opened! Ladbrokes and Sportsbet like to stop punters as well!

Never ever heard of TopSport! I will look into opening an account over there and see if they live up to their motto! JJ when did you hear about this lot?

So you class someone being able to net $15 as the TAB taking Top4 lol

Maybe he is a better trainer than Purdon/Rasmussen? Maybe the holiday that they are taking should be extended?

No!

I was pointing out the TOP4!!!! You can not wager at agencies, it is onlineONLY!!!! I am well aware of what you have said Nowornever! The TaB out up the odds so should be accepting everyones money!!!! The point was that what is the point of having a TOP4 if they are not taking the bets.

The newish Top 4 would seem like a good idea on the face of it! Is anyone getting much on the option? Firstly it is an online option only at this stage as their is no option no. I have tried a couple of times and just not worth the effort!!!!!!! Restricted to being able to NET $15!!!!!! Yep, $15!!!!!!!!! They surely are taking the piss!!!

Have had bets taken by the TAB and then cancelled several times! They control everything unfortunately.

Great to hear Ranga! Be very careful, you do not ever want to become one that the TAB gets scared of! RESTRICT that Ranga, liability to us!

Paleface, for some reason their horses can do what other trainers can not not do with their horses!!! They can sit parked, be under pressure and come again!! Go figure!

Gamma, Firstly it is not as easy as you think by socalled spreading it around! Why dont the Bookies just act with integrity and treat all punters equally? Restrict no one or everyone!!!! Seriously Gamma the feature races nowadays are nothing like they used to be! Domination by the one stable is so over rated and is driving punters away! Years ago on Premier nights there were plenty oncourse at Addington, nowadays very few of the regulars ever go! I personally do not bother anymore as I refuse to have to identify myself to bet on a horse! Just blatant control BS!! Money Laundering my arse, wanting to know who is wagering so they can control! I do not hate the Purdon/Rasmussen/Cullen stable whatsoever! They do a fantastic job for their select owners! What I do not like is the detrimental effect that they have had on harness racing in NZ! The fact is that they have not taken a spell away from racing whatsoever, and not too sure what the media release from them was all about??

Gamma, which part of “heavy restrictions” do you not understand? How on earth do I win 1k on akuta do you suggest Gamma??? Secondly wouldnt back it so short and Premier Racing is mot my cup of tea!

Ranga, keep on losing and you will keep on getting them!

Reality is that despite the Bs about increased turnover, they are haemorrhaging big time, from losing punters and also not attracting new enthusiasts into harness racing! Does anyone actually know anyone at all that have become new punters on harness racing in recent years! The industry is struggling hugely, and you are delusional if you think that it is in a happy place! Galah is correct when he says that the domination turns punters off! I thought when it was announced that Purdon/ Rasmussen was giving it away for awhile was very positive for the NZ industry! However that was just a load of crock, and we know that now! Normal transmission as they are still around at the stable and clearly doing the same old same old! If not, then we must all conclude that Hayden Cullen is every bit as good a trainer as Purdon/Rasmussen!! Reality is that nothing has changed at Rolleston except for the colours, which initially werent going to be changed! yes there will be some that say otherwise, but the industry is faltering! 5 starters in the Winter Cup for $25k? Races at the Premier meeting last night not generating anywhere near enough money to pay the stakes!

I thought Purdon wasnt training here now? Isnt it meant to be Cullen?

You mean Cullen/Purdon/Rasmussen! What a load of crock!

Hope MVB enjoys his spell from journalism! Probably be just like the Purdon/Rasmussen spell from racing!!! Sherwood is his understudy, so I wouldnt be thinking much will change!

It must be Sports Betting that is making the profit for the NZ TAB! Hard to believe that it is possible for them to be covering costs as the take out wouldnt be anywhere near enough!! It isclearly Sports and Overseas racing that is subsidising! What I suggest is that they change their business plan and encourage wagering rather than trying to kill it!

Lol, I was about to comment as well about the tote pools at both Addington and Auckland Mikey! I just can not fathom how they can continue to state that turnover is improving, and they are happy with the way things are going??!!! The big trot that has just been run at Auckland had a stake of $17,500!!! The tote turnover for win and place was less than half of the stake money at about $8k combined! Yes there is the other pools but they werent much either! So how on earth can the clubs be able to offer the stakes at the current levels when they are surely losing money on most if not all of the harness races being run?? You can not convince Brodie that there is more money being invested than what there used to be! Punters are being restricted if you didnt already know! Addington turnover is not as high as stake money either but Someone will come on and with their wisdom advise us all how the TAB can be making money on the current racing compared to stake money!