Brodie

Gammalite, there are some good things still in harness racing. The reality is that that harness has gone backwards significantly unfortunately in recent years! This damage that has been caused by several things need to be addressed so that harness racing in NZ has got a future. Auckland has trouble getting full fields and struggling big time in encouraging new owners trainers and juniors! Watched something on Trackside that had Ray Green saying how bad it was in Auckland and how it was impossible for young people to be able to afford land to train. We have had the TAB hierarchy continue to make utterly stupid financial decisions to the point where they were basically broke and needed tax payer bailout. They are still hooked into the lemon of the betting platform that they purchased and the noose around their neck must be very uncomfortable. Of course I have a bitter opinion of the way the TAB treats punters differently, and if you were treated differently then I would presume you would not be happy about it as well. They state that turnover on harness is increasing on harness racing but I say BS! Punters are having their bets severely restricted, the tote win and place pools are a fraction of what they used to be and the on course patrons are negilable. TAb agencies are few and far between and there are very few punters at the Pub Tabs if you have a close look. So where is this increased turnover coming from?????? Then clubs program races that are not worth running if they are looking for increased turnover. Smaller fields so smaller divs so less wagering and this is for what???? Horses racing for stakes less than they were 30 years ago and owners very hard to find I have heard, and why would you? We have had one stable dominate the big stake races for years leaving peanuts for everyone else. NZ’s best driver has left NZ indefinitely and probably wont return for a long time. Then we have the continued media castigation of harness racing by Van Beynon and co every week! We now have Swarbrick and Tubby wanting Greyhound racing banned so that the Greyhound breed will die out in NZ. We have the clowns bringing in stupid whip rules pointing out that harness shouldnt be having drivers carrying whips, so fodder for the same tossers! Sad but true and telling it the way it is Gamma. I am up for anyone to shoot the messenger down, but most know that Brodie is a totally correct messenger!!

Tubby is a flattering name for Robertson. What he is doing to NZ is an absolute shocker but people think he is KIND! The sooner the sheep wake up to these incompetents the better as they are going to be making your lives so much worse than they are currently. Ardern and Tubby are so out of depth with everything it is ridiculous and yet they got voted back in??? The biggest underachievers we have ever had in Parliament.

Jj, the Dogs are the target of the Greenies and do gooders as you must know! With Swarbrick and Tubby on the warpath they can wile Greyhound racing off our calendar before National overturn it. They are such a total bunch of dropkicks but 50% of the population support the dropkicks!

Prince Teka

Yep. There is no way you can make money racing horses here, that is why owners need to sell overseas. When it costs $2500k per month training min, and you are collecting under $4k for winning a race, clearly you are on a hiding to nothing. I love the harness racing industry, however things are unfortunately looking pretty dire. As the current owners who have been lifetime enthusiasts move on to greener pastures, there is no way at the moment that it is going to have nee owners coming thru. The racing family generation thing with harness racing is not happening like it used to. You only have to look at the Juniors race at Methven today! Half the field is male and half is female. There are not enough males coming thru the Junior ranks and many leave after they are out of the Junior ranks as there is no future in it for them. Have a look at the North Island Juniors, they are barely surviving and only because of South Island Juniors who have moved up there. Harness racing is a great sport but is seriously in trouble. TAB is certainly not helping either

Lol, great to hear! Was it an enjoyable experience for you Ranga?

What were horses running for in 1990 at Addington in an average race? Costs now related to what you can win is out of sync big time!

Crowd appeal? Ranga, they dont care about crowds anymore! No one goes oncourse anymore unless you are an owner or work with the horses! Punters arent bothering to go oncourse nowadays as it is not offering anything! Punters that used to go have been driven away for several reasons and unless they change things dramatically the industry is dead! Sad but very true.

Sack the dickhead who programmed those races yesterday. The mile race, the horses drawn the outside of both lines scratched. JJ said the fields were full for the 1390m races, off course they had starters as owners need horses racing to try and recoup the massive training costs nowadays! Racing for $8k nowadays is disastrous. They were racing for this amount 30 years ago!!!

Jj, it is shite and you cannot defend this crap programming! Maybe Auckland can race the correct way around just for a bit of variety?? You only had to look at Trackside yesterday to see that there was next to no one oncourse yesterday at Rangiora. You would have to have your head in the sand if you think that harness is going ahead. Poor stakes, poor oncourse attendance and poor TAB tote pools and poor Bookies that do not want to take your bets!!!!!! They can post about increased turnover on harness but most people know it is just BS! There is buggerall new punters on harness and existing punters nkt wagering anywhere near what they used to.

Addington! It doesnt matter where you program the starts from, have them on bends, lets just try everything it seems! Bad starting points make things interesting and gives variety some think?

Lets have some 752 metre stands and some 923metre mobiles! Yeah lets have variety, trotters against pacers, good drivers against poor drivers! What about races run in reverse, the world is our oyster, If they are going to program these short races as a way of attracting punting, they are delusional!

Gamma, not exactly. Brodie has profited financially from both the TAB and having Labour in government. I dont need to profit from the TAB it is just the challenge nowadays and the fact that they are ethically and morally wrong with their treatment of their customers. Yes I dont like the Labour Party and its socalled policies and their total incompetence. However having them in power has been unbelievably good for our business, which wouldnt have happened to the same extent under National. So Brodie 2 Labour 0 TAB 0

They will never be given ID by “The Brodster” Control Freaks are never going to beat me hopefully

Everyone is a potential money launderer Ranga! If you spend $2 and win $1k on a trifecta then the NZ TAB want to know who spent that $2 and won $1k because they could well be big time money launderers! I can advise them that it is highly unlikely that that $2 punter is a money launderer, but maybe they are??????? It is just a load of bollacks but they just want control, but it is going to backfire on them!

Ranga, we are all suspected money launderers, were you not aware of this? Produce your ID when you are collecting over $1k, that is what money launderers do isnt it? They put their money thru the NZ TAB or oncourse a whole $1k and hope that they win! Is is just a load of BS, TAB wanting total control!

Thanks Karrots To be honest, I do not really care if anyone thinks that I am racist, sexist or anything that is not correct nowadays! The world is a far worse place culturally and politically sleaking to what it used to be! Blatant BS not being able to use the word woman instead it has to be person! Golly Wog is racist etc. etc. Crazy shit that I just do not go along with, so maybe I am racist, sexist etc. Just calling it the way it is!

Jonny, Lol taking the piss out of Brodie by calling him racist? To be fair I would say each and all have opinions that are not politically or culturally correct with the nowadays BS!!! No I wasnt being racist, I see so many people from Asian countries whether it be Chinese, Japanese, India, Pakistan or whatever at the casino! Wondering why they do not go to harness tracks ??

Geez, isnt it long overdue for Barry Ford to jump out of the cart and put a driver on his horses? Blink N Bones, a certainty beaten and wouldve shit in if Barry was not in the cart! This horse has had 40 odd starts and most of the time Barry has been in the cart and mostly has a SHOCKER!!! Not sure why Gavin Smith has not been put in the sulky as he used to drive Barry’s last decent trotter! Yes I Know it is his perogative to be able to drive his own horses, but serious, does he really believe that he is doing right by the horse and punters? Yeah/Nah

Gamma, it is a blatantly stupid decision made by someone that is of no appeal. Chief is correct in that a horse will get a phenomenal undeserved mile rate for winning a race. It is a shocking idea and Rangiora should be ashamed of putting on this crap! Good to try things different but seriously Pointless trying this pathetic short Racing on to appeal to whom? If you enjoy this, then you might as well join the greyhound fan club!

Ranga, no you dont need to love short course racing at all! It is garbage programming this shite! Even the U.S. dont program races less than the mile and their racing is crap!

Opened several accounts in Oz, Gamma. Centrebet, Sportsbet and Ladbrokes. Ladbrokes and Centrebet didnt take any harness bets from me after a couple of months, so I brought money back. Sportsbet I have open but dont bother now

Gamma, people die each and every day with or without Covid19! NZ has a total of 25 or 26 put down to Covid and yet half lf them actually were never tested for Covid as they were so frail and so they were never positive. Every week in NZ roughly 800 people die of a variety reasons and yet 25 dying warrants shutting down the country and far more people dying from the lockdown rather than the virus. This Covid19 is a mild virus and this socalled deadly easily spread virus has no one in hospital. How many people that are testing positive at the border have symptoms and or end up in hospital???? No one as far as I am aware, if any then it is a minute number. It is absolute BS!!

They pick up on it pretty quickly Gamma as $200 registers as a BIG BET!!! They freeze it and kill the div! They want control of all punters just like our Labour Government want control of all people living in NZ! They did have 50% of the sheep at the last election and many are now realising that they are the most controlling useless govt. NZ has ever had.

Gamma, Great to have people travelling between countries and hope it continues. The deadly virus that kills no one that has no underlying conditions, but we cant be complacent so keep being fearfull everyone.