Brodie

Whitecocks??

We are 5 months out from a race, with a horse that hasn’t beaten any open class horses. Yes he is unbeaten but sat in the trail most of the way and only just got up by a nostril. What should he be at in Cup Odds? Nothing, blatantly silly to be backing anything 5 months out, unknown whether he will start over 3200m from a stand, against a stable that will have horses able to beat UMC.

Totally agree, what he has done in a few months is fantastic. Great that there are horses from the south that can mix it with Canterbury horses. Still improvement in UMC but doubt he should be short for the NZ Cup!

There has to be more to it? The Auckland Club already owned the land so no cost there! How do you therefore have a discrepancy of $70million? They could’ve just sold off that parcel of land and at least been in credit!!!! Unbelievable really!!!!!!

Horse is still pretty green as seemed to switch off and on abit. All you can do is win, whether it a nose or lengths. I am not getting carried away with it as yet, as although Classic Brigade is much improved in the last couple of, starts, he is no champion.

Was going to bring this up as well Happy! The Thing is there is a discrepancy of an amazing $70 million that’s right $70 million. Fancy having to sell other property to bail the club out partially! Must be the biggest Ballsup in racing ever, how on earth can you lose such an amount of money in Auckland real estate?

The AllStars horses I am sure are subjected to heavy workouts, as well as the racing. Everyone involved in the industry are well aware that it is not what advantages the AS horses are given it is more what they aren’t given. You only need to look at their fillies and mares, for some reason they all look like stallions! The best thing about the racing at the moment is that they don’t seem to race this time of year!

Wouldn’t think Mark McNamara would be leaving Canterbury anytime soon, as he gets to commentate on the best track by far at Addington. Doubt he would go back to Australia as there are far to many Ozzie’s over there! Unless his wife is in his ear????

I would’ve thought that to be a bit odd? Is it being done at the one lab or different ones? If it is the one lab, then perhaps there needs to be a working group setup to look into this?

Yay, has been sorted again! Someone must be reading on the best Harness Forum going! Thankyou HRNZ

Who? frank Jarrett? The Brodster is only a young one! All commentators have a different style, but I believe that Canterbury has certainly had the best harness commentators for as long as I can remember. They have all been very consistent and accurate. Reon was very good for a long time, and Mark McNamara and Matt Cross are now both very good. Actually liked Darren Tyquin who unfortunately lost his life before Mark McNamara.

Hope someone reads this at HRNZ and gets sorted, would be much appreciated!

Whiteman, thanks for that, but it is fine to expand with the plus sign for results! When I press the plus under fields, it doesn’t do a thing! Fine on my iPhone ! Might come back but I beleive there is a fault with the site as it happened the other day as well and the. Came right and gone again

Is anyone else having any problem with expanding the fields and therefore not being about to get videos or anything really! It has + and - up, and should only be the + sign. It is only on my iPad that the problem is, as my iPhone it is working fine! Had the same problem a couple of days ago, but came right but gone again!! Anyone know how to fix??? Thanking in anticipation.

I backed Svelt, and watched race on my phone. Didnt realise he had been fined for doing nothing, blatant BS! Galah, you are so right, he was barely touching the horse, and Kelvin Franks is basically an amateur driver! BS rule needs to go and HRNZ need to admit that they stuffed up with this rule! They won’t even though they know they have!,,,

Good days, when fields were full and not dominated by one stable!

I wasn’t aware that Winx was a harness horse that raced in Nz?..

Syndication is a great way to try and get new people into the harness racing game. I am sure people that have The smallest percentage ownership in a horse gets more enjoyment from winning a race, as do the ones that consistently plunder the stakes of our biggest stakes races! Syndicates pull people oncourse more than anything really and hopefully they bring their friends and families with them! Ownership of horses on your own has become only available to people who have money they can afford to lose, as a money making investment it is not viable!!

Never doubted you for one minute Westview! If you say that there is no differential now, then I believe you! What I do know is that harness clubs do need oncourse attendance as you well know. Great that you like to use your account to bet on by phone. The TAB Bookmakers are hardly encouraging punters to bet with them nowadays!!!! What they are now doing is referring bets and coming back with even more pathetic amounts being able to be won, which makes it pointless to even accept what they have offered!!!! You don’t accept what they have offered you, but slash the odds anyway!!!! How on earth is this what should be happening with racing in NZ???? Racing in NZ is stuffed, with this crap going on!

I thought it was, wouldn’t bet on it though! Need new people oncourse as well for revenue to the clubs from food and beverage! If everyone is not going to bet oncourse and on their phones, then no point having window sellers etc.

Don’t the clubs get a bigger % for money wagered oncourse than what they do offcourse? I would’ve thought that the clubs would prefer wagering with them rather than phones or agencies?

I believe oncourse turnover is important, the point being is that The Jewels is meant to Be a showpiece for harness racing in NZ. There is always a massive buildup for months about The Jewels! To Get new people involved and investing on Harness Racing, we need the new people on course to experience the racing. Doubt whether there would be too many new people going down to the TAB just to invest on the Jewels. The weather certainly didn’t help the cause unfortunately. I appreciate that many do bet on their phones at the races on their accounts, but these are existing enthusiasts and not the new ones that the industry needs. Jewels Day with all of its costs, would lose a significant amount of money, so would be interesting to know how many extra people are being attracted?

Turnover was good because it was held at Addington Raceway over a far better distance than the damn mile. It was also a crappy day weather wise throughout the country, so people were not out and about, therefore watered watching tV. What was the Oncourse turnover like????

We should go back to the old rule, that didn’t have a no.attached to it! Drivers are fined for using the whip more than the 10 times and yet some that use it less than the 10 will be using far more force. The current rule was rushed thru without a consensus or much thought being put into it. HRNZ brought it in, after the Ozzie’s banned the whip over there, which subsequently never came in. If you watch the Ozzie Trots there are so many drivers that give their horses heaps and nothing is said. I certainly don’t condone excessive use of the whip on horses, but the previous rule was working just fine!

Wasn’t Handsome Fellah trained by Greg Kelk?