The Centaur

The Act stipulates consultation with codes. That means written fully documented consultation.

Your argument only enforces what I've been saying all along. i.e. there should have been more consultation with the codes. Now if you look at the code CEO's you see they are cozy with the TAB heads. e.g. Glenda Hughes, Gary Woodham both ex TAB whilst Bernard Saundry in the same building and too close to Australian interests. Obviously if the racing Minister following on from my complaint makes enquiry from them they will quickly back up the TAB decision. However my investigation showed there was little consultation or interest.

Interesting documentary this morning on BBC and Vic Rail. Some evidence that research into Hendra played a part researching into COVID19. Vic offcourse trained Vo Rogue. Plenty background into the tragic story on the internet. e.g. https://www.csiro.au/en/research/animals/livestock/hendra

New survey figures show radio is surging. "Beyond the continuous competition for the coveted number one slots across segments, the overall figures told a good story for the radio industry. The data showed that more than 3.7 million New Zealanders continue to listen to the radio every week and almost 3.5 million of those listen to commercial radio stations. The continued relevance of radio was reiterated in 2020 by significant spikes in the number of people tuning in to stations around the country." https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/newstalk-zb-topples-rnz-national-as-biggest-talk-station-in-nz/OD3SQOASMQBEVZPRAFESOUKC6I/

I am assuming when Greg Purcell reached a settlement from Molloy there was some agreement he wouldn't post on Racecufe for a period of time. So what does the gutless wonder do. He uses his mates good name to post under the name "Midget" and carries on the abuse. Now how gutless is that. I've been on racing chats since 1995 and used only 3 usernames across about 6 forums. Many know exactly who I am including Molloy with whom I had a meeting. He approached me I didn't approach him. The meeting was cordial and just routine. So his keyboard antics subsequently against me just as against you hard to fathom.

Now that's an interesting thread on the other chan. The ageist abuse is typical of Molloy's tactics. By giving out details such as age and having knowledge of the victim the reader assumes Molloy "knows" what he is talking. Then when someone complains about the abuse McKenzie the site owner belittles the respondent and even asks the victim to "sort it out" The victim then meekly apologizes for being "old" and tries to downplay Molloy's abuse.

As I mentioned earlier I made a complaint to the Racing Minister and although I don't expect any answer I did rouse up the TAB heads for a lengthy meeting. Didn't receive any valid reasons but I can appreciate the costs involved in keeping radio mothballed for a year or two. Even so the cost not that great in order to for the codes to come up with workable plans. Therefore I blame the codes for not doing enough research and consultation with grass root participants and sponsors. Where are all the "highly" qualified businessmen on the boards surely having an efficient standalone company handling all racing and TAB promotions is a no brainer.

Trackside can quite easily make money if it is split away from the TAB and all racing codes form a standalone media company. The simple fact is the majority of advertisers are uncomfortable supporting gambling whereas have no problem supporting racing as a community event. Split away radio could have broken even and left all the benefits to racing for free.

Yes there are those who sit back and "enjoy" the entertainment. That's what it is to them then when the chickens come to roost they are most indignant the entertainment will be stopped. We could also do the entertaining but that is soon stopped by a moderator. That's why McKenzie aka scooby on the other forum is partly to blame by allowing free reign to Molloy and when Molloy transgresses he finds it more convenient to restrict the victim of Molloy's abuse. In saying all that Molloys abuse is nowhere as bad as it was 10 years ago so perhaps the message is getting through.

Thats exactly the problem. People make a few dollars then suddenly they assume the law doesn't apply to them.

...from posting on social media. What an an absurdly light penalty for Leo Molloy. Just shows what having a few dollars to pay the right lawyers does. As if the $15,000 fine is going to bother him. This is a serial offender who has abused and defamed maybe hundreds. It cost him close to $200,000 because Greg Purcell had the means to tackle him. Then the RIU brought 33 charges against him. Eventually banned from racing for a year with a $15,000 fine. Thats not the worst. The worst is that Molloy enjoys digging up someones most forgotten past and conducting in tandem with Leigh McKenzie an on going malicious vendetta campaign. I've highlighted here on BOAY other instances of misusing social media to run illegal competitions promoting bilge drinking. So many cases of abuse and bullying not enough time to list them. If you go on racecufe you will see most of Molloys postings going back years have been deleted e.g. when using Sheriff as username. Now why would one do that? https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/124972405/grace-millane-suppression-breach-leo-molloy-fined-15000-for-naming-killer-on-forum

I daresay the constitution of the club would require an AGM or special meeting in order to sell "the Hill". Furthermore with the proposed amalgamation of the Auckland region clubs any sale prior to the event would seem outside the interests of racing therefore breaching the legislation around clubs. We really need a member to come on here and state what communications they have received.

The last time Daytona Red had won a race was the last time Lydia Ko had won on the LPGA. Now what do they do with Daytona Red. This is a horse that actually lengthens stride near the finish of a long distance race. The NZ cup would seem a moral however there seems to be an abundance of 3000m races in Victoria which should be easy pickings even against the ex European horses.

Chief, Huey has got a point. There are several trainers involved at Te Akau not just Richards and most trainers set up from scratch with their hard earned. Best to compare Richards and Te Akau with similar overseas operations. Te Akau comes out more than favourably. Many billionaires have attempted to do in 5 years what Te Akau have done over 30 years and many have gone bust in also less than 5.

TAB (racing) unlike standard commercial organisations did not need to have Radio make a profit. Preferably breakeven then all the advantages of radio for racing would be free. Now any advertising fees etc escape the racing net and worse still punters on racing will be encouraged to switch to sport. Its just lose, lose for racing. So much so I've followed up with a complaint to the Racing minister as clearly it was against the law for TAB to sell Trackside radio assets without consultation with the codes. Last I heard the complaint had gone directly to the minister. Now for the interesting bit. Like clockwork the startled generals are rallying around the flag. Suddenly there was consultations but what I can guage just afternoon coffee down at Petone. I'll keep you posted how things progress. Next step could be approaching the opposition racing spokesman. Racing is not just betting on overseas dogs. Radio should have with better management (involvement of codes) been a significant contributor to marketing of racing. Crazy expecting TAB to be the sole marketer of racing.

Exactly and they are allowed to operate financially from Gibraltar or somewhere. Just imagine where UK racing would be if the profits the bookies made were retained in racing. I guess the "gentry" running racing in the UK are more worried the waiter has got his tie on straight. Wow if they are restricting you then you must be making a profit. Keep it up.

Just to set record straight. Was banned temporarily. Now unbanned.

The point I was making that when the market% is at 140% then no wonder the bookmaker makes that much. Also how hypocritical for TAB NZ telling us not to bet with overseas bookies yet go into partnership with Paddy Power & OpenBet. On a different note the TAB website change in layout with the Wininsurance is the first sign of any innovative software programming I have seen on the $60M disaster.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2021/mar/31/bet365-boss-denise-coates-pay-may-exceed-1bn-in-four-years Perhaps we should start a collection for NZ's McKenzie. (Incidently the topic is banned on Channel X)

Been a few cases of counterfeit money but yes maybe the real crims went to Australia for training.

Him being the sports minister there is a bit of a conflict of interest. After all sport and racing competing for the TAB dollar. Can't see him having any time for racing. Big economy changes needed. Labour just seems preoccupied with Maori issues.

Good to see justice at work. I believe the criminals took racing very much into consideration when committing the horrific crime. The Red Fox with TAB was a popular watering hole for many racegoers travelling Auckland to Waikato or Bay of Plenty. Labour day weekend Saturday 1987 was Cox Plate day a year after the Waverley Star/Boncrusher epic. However there was huge NZ interest with Poetic Prince and Tidal Light not to mention public favourites like Vo Rogue. Rubiton won the race. There were also races at Ellerslie and Trentham and given the timing of the Cox Plate punters back in 1987 would place bets during the day and collect after the day. Therefore the crims knew there would be a lot of cash available. In the 80's there were gangs from the Waikato who figured out an easy scheme. They would go up and down the country sniffing out pub bookies quite often in quiet easy going places like RSA's or Cozi clubs. They would go up to the bookie with say $30 and a list of bets during the day. The bookie would place the list in his pocket then half way during the day the punter would ask for the list on the excuse couldn't remember the bets. Placing the list in full view of the bookie in the Best bets the punter would flip the page and lo and behold a new list would emerge and given back to the bookie. Most bookies never suspected a thing. Its just a hunch but it wouldn't surprise these Red Fox culprits had some links to these scammers.

Can't see why they use the Cumani lady over Jayne when the big cups come around. Jayne's choice of hats quite impressive and it doesn't stop her seeing the horses. The fact she methodically logs everything she sees into a database shows her professionalism. Plus also she's probably the most reliable of all the paddock spotters.

I've mentioned it before but one has to wonder how smart some yearling buyers are. The full brother to VE sold for only $140,000 to Bob Peters WA. A magnificent type now a 2yo I keep looking to see if its trialing but haven't seen it. The word however is that its a very good horse but no Verry Eleegant.

What happened to the "ALL weather tracks"?