The Centaur

Splendido is a real enigma. Here he was in one of the weakest fields possible with a huge pull in the weights. The horse has been competitive in Group 1 both in NZ and Australia at middle distance. If ever the punter needed the trainers perspective it was on Splendido. If the trainer thought the horse was OK then should have paid $1.50 not $9.00 showing earlier in the day given the racing pattern.

That comment is not needed.

Surely the TAB can suggest or endorse links where the real form can be found. In some ways its arrogant of the TAB not to do so.

Right now I believe Michael Dore farewell taking place at TAB. One of the few at TAB willing to engage with punters on an intelligent basis. Big loss for TAB. I can remember him being at the TAB in eighties so his time there probably closer 40 than 30 years. Not sure where he stood on some matters e.g. Triple Trio. Anyway hope he fares well in his next phase.

Listened to him for the first time via the podcast. Very disappointing. Not a fluent speaker and beats about the bush basically saying nothing. Never nails the topic on the head.

Agreed. Few seem capable of looking at the big picture. WE hear talk about closing tracks but little is presented about other activities some commercial others of community benefit. Actually some clubs might welcome respite from racing as Avondale did for a few years. More data, more informed discussion, less egotism and fewer jokes (e.g. LJM thinking of getting on the board) is needed.

And considering every time there is some whistleblowing or investigation huge cache's of dodgy hidden funds are discovered. e.g Panama papers. From a 2016 sub headline "New details from the Panama Papers show how a stream of foreign cash became a torrent flooding into New Zealand trusts in order to avoid tax offshore." Therefore why on earth are NZRB spending money on monitoring penny farthing transactions whereas the real problem is not really being addressed.

Most working at the TAB couldn't care a hoot about it so I don't think they do it for the benefit of the TAB as such. They do it because its something black and white so they can show they are doing something. Most just haven't a clue about racing, wagering etc. Also its like many on racing club committees don't know much about racing but had a bit of experience buying and selling real estate.

Look at any UK jump race. You can't tell me NZ horses are better educated. Don't know where you get your claim from.

About time NZ realized this isn't good old England. There is no way safety, training and resources can go into jumps racing the way it does in the UK. No problem horses being educated for jumping e.g. eventing. Perhaps some flat races can be restricted to jumpers but really the costs need to be weighed up.

wouldn't it be more accurate that luring the National Party and Racing Board hierarchy to his drinking hole has more resultant influence on attitudes to Allen, Hughes and Peters. Someone should ask how much NZRB funds authorized by Allen have gone to the Viaduct enterprise for "staff parties".

My old English teacher always said keep it short. So instead of..... "The delayed timing of benefits expected from the new Fixed Odds Betting (FOB) platform is a large contributor to the variance to budget" in short "a fuckin loss"

Seems the TAB have figured a way to claw back some profit. The fixed odds place odds are hugely disadvantaged to the NZ punter. e.g. Race 1 from Singapore tonight every single horse is priced lower than Tatts Bet. Some as much as 50%. That's just unprecedented. NZTAB UBET 9.35pm 1.80 1.90 1.90 1.90 13.00 28.00 3.50 3.80 2.90 3.10 2.60 2.60 8.00 16.00 13.00 22.00 2.40 2.60 3.50 3.80 4.80 6.00 2.40 2.60 6.00 10.00 4.00 4.80

The problem seems to be throughout the industry. Those getting into various influential roles are more keen promoting their own successes in their fields rather than studying the industry. Their motto seems to be "I've been a successful in business therefore I'm the best for racing." Meanwhile those that do have the solutions are sidelined by the "follow the money" yes men.

Much more interesting is the goings on in USA with J. Epstein, Clinton. Trump etc. True to form the USA press don't mention the Mossad.

Didn't know you frequented those sites that seem to pop up everywhere here.

OK that was a no go. Dead slow just a plodder. I suppose good rule for fresh up runners should be that the precocious ones are the best in that they would have got fitness through their own exertions. Therefore looking at a horses that have pulled or raced keenly in their previous runs bit of a clue. Lets turn the page to Avondale.

Race 9 today at Te Aroha. Carlsberg $61 Comes in fresh today which is the big query but consider? Has won fresh up 1600 in Hwt whilst fresh first up and was unlucky not to run 2nd to The Mitigator when overall first up. Has 100% record on soft or heavy. Its win was very impressive being held up and storming late. The fact from day one has had concussion plates suggests has aversion to good tracks. The big plus for me is the trainer. Seems to specialize in first ups. The 5 horses he has had over recent years have all won first up or second up and when second up unlucky first up. Those horses are Sellwood, Anacapri, Deagon, Conroy and offcourse Carlsberg. Not sure about jockey bookings as the winning jockey Gary Walsh is riding another one. That would be the negative At $61 I suggest ticks a few boxes.

27 Oct 2011 but between May and October they had 5 meetings and fields held up well. Fritzy Boy was a notable winner in one of those meetings.

Anyone been to a container mall overseas or Christchurch and New Plymouth? Would seem an ideal fit for racing clubs as the structures are not permanent giving extra life to flagged tracks With the markets already at Avondale that would seem an excellent option.

I don't know about that. The UK whip style looks awful plus seems much more forceful. Anyway as an aside if you were a horse would you prefer the whip or a grumpy jockey yanking your mouth. Never hear that mentioned.

Yes could be ok Blue Valley but always a mystery these overseas horses. I really like Tia Celeste. The only claimer, drawn out a bit (last race), extra distance but for mine I love those horses on the water walker. Great each way go.

Took quite some time building up web balance and all blown in one hit with a trifecta that didn't go through as percentage. After years of battling the TAB put controls on the amount spent in one bet. That was a must for anyone carrying a decent balance. Now after spending $50M on the new website its not possible to have controls and limits. Yet along the left side there is a setting option leading one to believe the old settings still exist. Thats dishonest. Like I said to the TAB when one buys a new car one doesn't expect to have to hunt around town for new tyres. The TAB website and all those associated with it is a disgrace to the internet.

Exactly. Most posters are perfectly able to take on Molloy themselves but are prevented as its a one sided game. And yes it is a game to Leo he has admitted it himself. Molloy in the hospitality business has followed the principle make one group feel exclusive by demonizing another group. The first group can't see anything wrong , couldn't care or enjoy the entertainment. The tactics employed by Molloy are oh so predictable. e.g. make out you know a person and divulge slightly true mostly untrue stuff so that the majority actually believes him. In my case I had a perfectly normal 2 minute meeting and from that he makes out he meets me everytime at the races. There are positives about Leo. Some things others can learn from like hiding assets in trusts or how to use ones family to punt on a venture. Lets be clear there are millions of successful business people why would anyone be jealous or whatever about one in particular its all in the strange mind of Leo. The types of slander or defamation employed by Molloy in your case is also familiar. Make out you are getting information from one party so the victim may think someone other than Leo is causing the trouble. Mumble .... the person who should be starving the oxygen is the Racecafe moderator who is too weak to follow the rules with Molloy.

Anyone who reads the Internet harmful communication act and is familiar with Molloy's history with racecafe will wonder how he is still posting. When he was taken to court and dealt an almost $200k blow one could surmise there were conditions on his posting. That didn't stop him. He smeared his mates name by posting as him OK his HQ venture has been a huge financial success now he can't help himself crowing about it. So much so he looks to have voluntarily paid of old creditors which legally he wasn't bound to. That's good I applaud that, What cannot be applauded is deliberate very hurtful attacks on a member of the wider McKee family. That is illegal behaviour under the act. Trying to portray himself as a victim must be joke of the century. It would appear Molloy is on purpose making a big scene and giving it to McKenzie as he departs racecafe and poor old scooby still thinks Molloy is god. Crazy.