OLDWHITEMAN Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 7 hours ago, Portfolio said: Dominion start not much better Hopeless start. Just like the Cup the No. 1 horse was three or four metres from the strand when he said "right" Back in Mulcay's day the No. 1 horse was the first to line up on the strand then the others line up. Now it is a lottery. Sack him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 I thought the Dominion start was ok when he said 'right' . Horses were stationary. See below. The Cup on the other hand was a disgrace. Not one horse was stationary at the time of the release. It was moving walk up which is not a standing start and not standard practice. He should be asked why that is the case? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 23 hours ago, OLDWHITEMAN said: Hopeless start. Just like the Cup the No. 1 horse was three or four metres from the strand when he said "right" Back in Mulcay's day the No. 1 horse was the first to line up on the strand then the others line up. Now it is a lottery. Sack him. Yes that no 1 was our horse. Broke and never recovered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 1 hour ago, globederby12 said: Broke and never recovered. Starter's fault? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 5 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: Starter's fault? Not sure , waiting for report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 8 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: Starter's fault? I think the horse became a bit fractious after waiting so long in the score up which one maybe can put down to Mr Lamb taking to long to get them to sort themselves out. Time they got rid of stand starts. He might be off to the Inters where they are all mobiles and no Mr Lambs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 52 minutes ago, globederby12 said: I think the horse became a bit fractious after waiting so long in the score up which one maybe can put down to Mr Lamb taking to long to get them to sort themselves out. Time they got rid of stand starts. He might be off to the Inters where they are all mobiles and no Mr Lambs. I have watched the start a few times. I don't think it was a bad start. I don't think your horse had to stand for very long. The major problem of drawing the inside is they have to stand for awhile longer than the others obviously. If indeed they are asked to stand! I think your horse was caught flat footed when the tapes went and even worse is when they get slight momentum backwards. That is the biggest problem for horses drawn on the inside. I always hope for horses who I have backed drawn on the inside that they get to go when the momentum is on their side. Sadly, there is no consistency but I don't think it can be entirely attributed to the starter as 14 or more horses are never going to be settled and ready to go at the same time. Maybe it is time to get rid of the stand but I think that would take away some of the variety of racing. Especially at the grass tracks when people can get real close to the action. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted November 26, 2018 Share Posted November 26, 2018 Just to provide another perspective on this, it would seem that Mr Lamb's initial appointment had the strong support of drivers: https://www.pressreader.com/new-zealand/the-press/20071130/282454229647082 It might be interesting to know how they feel now. It would also seem that some of the perceived problems with standing starts can be attributed to HRNZ regularly changing the rules around starting procedures, often against the recommendations of starters. http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/sport/racing/286554/HRNZ-outlaws-walk-up-starts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boobybec Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Peter Lamb a typical ex cop doesn't think he has to defend himself to anyone. In saying that at least sometimes he does try and get them to stand before releasing the tapes, some starts down south are pretty much running starts. As a punter all you ask for is consistency a pity P Lamb can't cop it sweet so to speak. In can remember the late great Jack Mulcahy calling horses in behind the tapes "Rightio you bastards up ya come" That's gold!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boobybec Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Peter Lamb, your a disgrace!!! Rachmaninov was no show to get away. Your assistants were all around it but let it go anyway 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mardy Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 Yip was about to say something myself.There was no way that Rachmaninov got a fair start.The assistant put his hand on the bridle and then he let the field go.I was waiting for the whistle to blow to indicate a false start,but nope.Yes he was acting like a clown,but as soon as the assistant touched him he wasn't going to get a fair start.Feel sorry for those that backed him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boobybec Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, Mardy said: Yip was about to say something myself.There was no way that Rachmaninov got a fair start.The assistant put his hand on the bridle and then he let the field go.I was waiting for the whistle to blow to indicate a false start,but nope.Yes he was acting like a clown,but as soon as the assistant touched him he wasn't going to get a fair start.Feel sorry for those that backed him. That race looked horrible didn't have a bet, but as you say the poor old punter has to cop it. Peter Jansen's first move should be to remove P Lamb 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsenic Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 To be perfectly honest in all the time that this guy has been the starter I can’t recall where there all standing perfectly still. This guys standing start is actually a walk up , he doesn’t have a bloody clue . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 That's not peter lambs fault. That horse should have been stood down from stands long ago. Is the most unruly horse in a stand for a long time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 oh dear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 3 hours ago, the galah said: That's not peter lambs fault. That horse should have been stood down from stands long ago. Is the most unruly horse in a stand for a long time. Lightworkofit is far worse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted December 23, 2018 Share Posted December 23, 2018 36 minutes ago, Brodie said: Lightworkofit is far worse Imagine them in the same race,may have to put meeting back by one race 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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