globederby12 Posted November 13, 2018 Share Posted November 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, Brodie said: Either do away with the stupid rule or make it fair!,, To make it fair then do as Oldwhiteman suggested. Ban the use of the whip. Problem solved. That opens up a can of worms as those pre trainers /trainers/ horses handlers would be aware of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 hour ago, OLDWHITEMAN said: Now getting back to the question... You are like the Brodie, never answer a question, when you are backed into a corner and wrong, which is often. Thanks. 1 hour ago, OLDWHITEMAN said: Brodie claimed that The Fixer should have been disqualified because Natalie Rasmussen was charged with excessive whip use and that Tiger Tara should have been promoted to winner. I pointed out that McCarthy the driver of Tiger Tara was also charged with excessive whip use. If The Fixer ought to be relegated according to Brodie, then so should Tiger Tara for the same offence. That would make the third horse the Cup winner. I agree with you. However, I am often wrong. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Rangatira said: has been on the money occasionally Admit it, I know you won’t Rangatira, but always on the money 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 11 minutes ago, Brodie said: Admit it, I know you won’t Rangatira, but always on the money if only it was true I would but you always being on the money is just plain wrong "The horse gained an advantage over the other horses and so should’ve been an enquire, and Tiger Tara promoted!" fiddlesticks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rangatira said: "The horse gained an advantage over the other horses and so should’ve been an enquire, and Tiger Tara promoted!" fiddlesticks Does a single strike with the whip make the horse go faster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 3 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: Does a single strike with the whip make the horse go faster? i'm unsure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) Of course hitting a horse males it go faster. You would have to be pretty naive to think that it didn’t! If a dominatrix was hitting Rangatira with a whip would Rangatira run away from her? Probably not as he would be into that type of shite! Edited November 14, 2018 by Brodie 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, Brodie said: If a dominatrix was hitting Rangatira with a whip would Rangatira run away from her? Probably not as he would be into that type of shite! hardly on the money in the last 24 hours at least you are consistent 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 15 minutes ago, Rangatira said: hardly on the money in the last 24 hours at least you are consistent How do you work that one out? Consistent, always and on the money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, Brodie said: How do you work that one out? Consistent, always and on the money because you can't promote tiger tara and relegate the fixer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 43 minutes ago, Rangatira said: because you can't promote tiger tara and relegate the fixer Tis a valid point. Lets relegate all of them. I hereby declare the winner of the 2018 NZ Trotting Cup to be Raphoe. Settled. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 49 minutes ago, Rangatira said: because you can't promote tiger tara and relegate the fixer Change the flippen whip rule then!!!! A cheat won the NZ cup! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, Brodie said: A cheat won the NZ cup! you might still be missing the point which is not unusual safe to say your pedestal has been well and truly hone heke'ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Brodie said: Change the flippen whip rule then!!!! Yes. 2 hours ago, Brodie said: A cheat won the NZ cup! No. Because the rules do not allow for disqualification as they stand. Natalie played to the edge of the rules. That is within her right. She copped a soft fine and stand down but won the Cup. Fair dues to her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowornever Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 3 hours ago, Brodie said: Change the flippen whip rule then!!!! A cheat won the NZ cup! If I was in her position and had the choice of either winning around 40K or paying a possible fine around $1000 and copping a few days off as the worst penalty then I know which one I would be choosing and you would have to be a bordering on possible insanity to see otherwise. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 9 hours ago, Nowornever said: If I was in her position and had the choice of either winning around 40K or paying a possible fine around $1000 and copping a few days off as the worst penalty then I know which one I would be choosing and you would have to be a bordering on possible insanity to see otherwise. And every other driver in the country would do the same, the whip rule is very flimsy, they either need to refine it and make the punishment tougher i.e bigger fine or relegation for money earning placings, or scrap it all together, because while it is like it is, of course driver's will try to get the most out of their horses on big days. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Flagship uberalles said: And every other driver in the country would do the same, the whip rule is very flimsy, they either need to refine it and make the punishment tougher i.e bigger fine or relegation for money earning placings, or scrap it all together, because while it is like it is, of course driver's will try to get the most out of their horses on big days. Luckily, there aren't too many close finishes in the big races due to the domination of the All Stars otherwise drivers would be getting fined all the time. The Dominion could possibly provide a good example of a few getting fined. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: Luckily, there aren't too many close finishes in the big races due to the domination of the All Stars otherwise drivers would be getting fined all the time. The Dominion could possibly provide a good example of a few getting fined. Looking Forward to the dominion the most, speeding spur no good thing either, nice to see a big race where you don't know the result before the race has run! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 2 hours ago, Flagship uberalles said: Looking Forward to the dominion the most, speeding spur no good thing either, nice to see a big race where you don't know the result before the race has run! great post flag see scoobymarket trying to take the piss on this post will be great race 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitofaLegend Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 3 hours ago, Happy Sunrise said: Luckily, there aren't too many close finishes in the big races due to the domination of the All Stars otherwise drivers would be getting fined all the time. The Dominion could possibly provide a good example of a few getting fined. I'm sure when you are driving in a race worth a few 100k, how many times you use the whip is the last thing you are worried about 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 hour ago, hunterthepunter said: great post flag see scoobymarket trying to take the piss on this post will be great race His "mate" must have e-mailed him again as he doesn't read this site!! Nice to have a pretend wingman! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 1 hour ago, hunterthepunter said: great post flag see scoobymarket trying to take the piss on this post will be great race Why do they spend time over here?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 8 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: Why do they spend time over here?? Because nothing is happening over there? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 39 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: Why do they spend time over here?? education 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 1 hour ago, Happy Sunrise said: Why do they spend time over here?? I think they spend time over here as there site is about stuffed 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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