Rangatira Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: I think he won an interdom junior driver comp in the 90's but Don't think he was top junior, lots more competition back then 1991 series held in gods own i think he was representing the mainlaind pretty sure he did it without winning a heat Edited October 16, 2019 by Rangatira 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 ben drove good at trials today won heap what's the stake money??? looked like most trainers not having a go bad look if you have to get the bat out just to win and no improvement race day lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Flagship uberalles said: I think he won an interdom junior driver comp in the 90's but Don't think he was top junior, lots more competition back then You may well be right Flag, It was awhile ago but he did win something and it was not lotto. He clearly had ability to qualify if it was an interdominion probationary drivers comp and basically lost to the industry. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 24 minutes ago, Brodie said: You may well be right Flag, It was awhile ago but he did win something and it was not lotto. He clearly had ability to qualify if it was an interdominion probationary drivers comp and basically lost to the industry. can you please define "lost to the industry" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 6 hours ago, Rangatira said: what year was graeme ward the top junior driver ? In the early 90s he was right up there. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Happy Sunrise said: In the early 90s he was right up there. but not top ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 34 minutes ago, Rangatira said: can you please define "lost to the industry" do you mean the super stud???? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 19 minutes ago, Rangatira said: but not top ? Well, define it as you wish. Top in New Zealand, no, but top in Canterbury, seems yes. Don't worry, you have won against Brodie so don't panic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Rangatira said: but not top ? Yeah he was. He won a probationary or juniors championship, what exactly not sure but he was a very good young driver. Not going to debate it with you anymore Ranga, cos you just trolling however he clearly has not carried on to any degree in racing. My point is a very good and championship winning driver is basically out of the industry, unless you can advise us all of him training a big team or driving plenty of horses! Edited October 16, 2019 by Brodie 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) He did win a probationary or junior drivers championship at Addington! I remember reading about it, and he didn’t come from a racing family from what I recall Edited October 16, 2019 by Brodie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 6 minutes ago, Brodie said: He did win a probationary or junior drivers championship at Addington! I remember reading about it, and he didn’t come from a racing family from what I recall Certainly been a fair few decent ones slip through the net over the years...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: Certainly been a fair few decent ones slip through the net over the years...... kerry hadfield 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 5 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: kerry hadfield When was his last winner?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Flagship uberalles said: When was his last winner?? geez been long time say nearly 10 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 4 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: geez been long time say nearly 10 years He trains a few now, I think....was a top junior in the 90's 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 12 hours ago, hunterthepunter said: do you mean the super stud???? just trying to get to the bottom of the brodsters lies here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Rangatira said: just trying to get to the bottom of the brodsters lies here Get a life Ranga! You are the trollster! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowornever Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Rangatira said: just trying to get to the bottom of the brodsters lies here Brodie is sometimes on the money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 22 minutes ago, Brodie said: Get a life Ranga! You are the trollster! Brodster stays true to himself.........he doesn't pretend he's Greg O'Connor vis a vis lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 (edited) 16 hours ago, hunterthepunter said: ben drove good at trials today won heap what's the stake money??? looked like most trainers not having a go bad look if you have to get the bat out just to win and no improvement race day lol Would you not agree that horses like to win and know when they have. They're not perturbed one way or the other whether they have got 5 or 6 flicks with the whip. Its confidence building is it not. Its just a matter of what type of run they are ready for that counts. I think with the hope stable what you get at the trials is what you get at the races. They don't seem to have any interest in setting their horses up for a punt by giving them quiet runs. I know you support the McGrath stable. It is a hard stable to get a line on sometimes going on their trial runs.. Personally I think they are given quiet runs because that is all they are ready for.. They seem quite successful on the punt sometimes but I often think their first starters get a little lost mentally in a finish, its like the quiet runs they have been given at the trials have not mentally prepared them for raceday. That's my opinion,obviously they don't see it that way though. The point is every trainer has their own perspective of what they want from a trial. Also there is pre race treatment (not saying anything illegal),that is given by some stables which helps performance. I haven't heard the term pre trial treatment because who does that? I don't think the hopes do that as much as some which is why you get raceday what you see at the trials from them.. Edited October 16, 2019 by the galah 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Nowornever said: Brodie is sometimes on the money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted October 16, 2019 Share Posted October 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Nowornever said: Brodie is sometimes on the money. brodie will sometimes invent his own facts to support the point he is attempting to make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Rangatira said: brodie will sometimes invent his own facts to support the point he is attempting to make You what??? Ranga, you would be better off back on The Darkside, if all you want to be is an eff wit! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowornever Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Rangatira said: 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Brodie said: You what??? Ranga, you would be better off back on The Darkside, if all you want to be is an eff wit! colonel nathan r jessup right on the money re you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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