Four shaw Posted October 26, 2019 Share Posted October 26, 2019 Got my faith in the SPCA .........Fourshaw ..GOTHE ABs ???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 http://www.riu.org.nz/announcements/newsinbrief-weekending27october2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Its a bit like saying, he went to the house, raped the wife, beat the husband to a pulp, and is fined $300. You would go a long way to find a more blatant corrupt decision than this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinggreys Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 1 hour ago, aquaman said: Its a bit like saying, he went to the house, raped the wife, beat the husband to a pulp, and is fined $300. You would go a long way to find a more blatant corrupt decision than this. If GRNZ was across it they would take on the RIU just like they did with blazin carter, unless they agree that the RIU are right of course. Theres a GRNZ board member thats on the RIU Board isnt there, hes up for relection! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 (edited) The GRNZ board has a integrity committee. Which members are they? Why haven't they been heard from? At the end of the day, what had transpired was match fixing (race fixing - field manipulation). If the RIU and/or the GRNZ boards integrity committee doesn't have the balls to treat it as such, well I've got some news for them, I do... I've been stone-walled by the new racing operations manager (integrity seems well above his depth) & the new CEO (who didn't even bother to reply to my concerns). Unless one of the crooked lot steps up & treats this CRIME in the manner a serious breach of GRNZ rules should be dealt with, next weekend I will be emailing harness@police.govt.nz with my concerns. After such an action, the crooked lot of them could start answering questions to those who don't allow things to simply be swept under the carpet. Surely the ICNA lot might very interested considering the trainer who was involved. https://www.police.govt.nz/news/release/seven-charged-operation-inca Edited October 27, 2019 by Yankiwi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozla Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Lets hope the next board members bring a bit of fight, we will see which way the clubs go soon enough. They will only have themselves to blame if they vote for self interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozla Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 You have to wonder what exactly it would take to get a big fine and a disqualification as a trainer, we have seen prize money returned in the case of positive swabs accidental or otherwise but I can't recall many offenses that have brought substantial fines or disqualifications. To rort a race field, be found guilty of a fraud that strikes squarely at the integrity of the code and get a fine not much larger than a dress code fine or weight variation seems implausible. If a punter committed a fraud against the TAB they would be warned off and banned for life no doubt yet a trainer can commit a fraud against his fellow participants and the sport and he walks virtually unpunished. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehe Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Well there are a number of trainers that do this You also have to look at selectors of the fields So yankiwi make sure you tell the police about all of this as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lad27 Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 Mehe, be the first I've seen nominating a retired greyhound. Especially seeing that dog was on facebook retired. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehe Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Lad27 said: Mehe, be the first I've seen nominating a retired greyhound. Especially seeing that dog was on facebook retired. Lad it has happened before There all sorts of ways around this type of thing cole done it in a racing series final where he scratched two dogs he didnt breed and one he sold so what happend in the end the 9 dog he breed came into box 1 and bolted in so glad is that not race fixing Edited October 28, 2019 by Mehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CrossCodes Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 It just proves how toothless and gutless our Stipes are, as well as the RIU. If Ferguson had done this in Australia, he would have been out for life, it’s down right fraud. We seem to be under the same umbrella but our lacklustre officials seem to not want to/and or choose to not enforce the rules. Its an absolute farce to be honest, maybe the fact it’s a harness person involved they are being lenient on him, there must be some reason, because on face value it is just a free for all now in regards to the rules, trainers just do what the hell they like knowing a measly fine will be the result if they get caught. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
racinggreys Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 4 hours ago, bamboozla said: You have to wonder what exactly it would take to get a big fine and a disqualification as a trainer, we have seen prize money returned in the case of positive swabs accidental or otherwise but I can't recall many offenses that have brought substantial fines or disqualifications. To rort a race field, be found guilty of a fraud that strikes squarely at the integrity of the code and get a fine not much larger than a dress code fine or weight variation seems implausible. If a punter committed a fraud against the TAB they would be warned off and banned for life no doubt yet a trainer can commit a fraud against his fellow participants and the sport and he walks virtually unpunished. You do have to wonder.. If we were in Aussie they have racing integrity commisioner who deals with this sort of thing, its something that would be right up his street. Surely winnie is our best bet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fur que Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Mehe said: Lad it has happened before There all sorts of ways around this type of thing cole done it in a racing series final where he scratched two dogs he didnt breed and one he sold so what happend in the end the 9 dog he breed came into box 1 and bolted in so glad is that not race fixing Gee , exactly which race was that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taku Umanga Posted October 28, 2019 Share Posted October 28, 2019 (edited) Similar thing happened in harness racing a while back - trainers nominating multiple horses to make sure a Junior Driver race (penalty free for the winner) got off the ground ..... when it was known that at least one of the horses nominated wasn't even in work or had only just come back into work (memory fading with age). Horse(s) were scratched once fields were declared. Edited October 28, 2019 by Taku Umanga Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehe Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 8 hours ago, Taku Umanga said: Similar thing happened in harness racing a while back - trainers nominating multiple horses to make sure a Junior Driver race (penalty free for the winner) got off the ground ..... when it was known that at least one of the horses nominated wasn't even in work or had only just come back into work (memory fading with age). Horse(s) were scratched once fields were declared. Yes that happens but with the nz breeders races the breeder gets money as well This happend I think August last year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fur que Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Mehe said: This happend I think August last year Exactly when please , would like to look it up ? Do you think or know , big difference . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehe Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 3 hours ago, fur que said: Exactly when please , would like to look it up ? Do you think or know , big difference . Sorry I was away off with the date it was the 26/3/18 Now at the time the 3 dogs got 28 day stand down then that was changed with at least one of the dogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehe Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, Mehe said: Sorry I was away off with the date it was the 26/3/18 Now at the time the 3 dogs got 28 day stand down then that was changed with at least one of the dogs Sorry dont know why that date came up it was 26th January 2018 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 https://www.grnz.co.nz/catch-the-action/12928/result-detail.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gambler Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 On 10/26/2019 at 4:00 PM, racinggreys said: RIU incosistancy !! http://jca.org.nz/non-race-day-hearings/non-raceday-inquiry-riu-v-a-turnwald-decision-dated-21-december-2017-chair-mr-p-williams?searchterm=freeman http://jca.org.nz/non-race-day-hearings/non-raceday-inquiry-riu-v-pb-freeman-decision-dated-8-january-2015/?searchterm=paul freeman* Why did Freeman lose his license. Ferguson still races Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bettingman Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Well well we’ll, what an interesting week having the northerners down here (I will not name which ones), they had a fair bit to say, very displeased that Pete the cheat has stood again for Waikato Vice President after telling everyone he was standing down - I doubt anyone is shocked that his word is no good. Word is Thrilling Billy broke down in his last start (22nd August), retired immediately, was desexed that week and sent to Auckland for foster care while awaiting mayhounds intake - he hadn’t been in Ferguson’s kennel for months prior to the scratching incident. Pete the cheat apparently got a tip off the day before the stewards came for him and fabricated a great cover story to cover his butt! He really did make the stipes look stupid. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taupiri Wonder Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Karma's Date with PETE THE CHEAT. Am so pleased that Ferguson (and same co-owner as Thrilling Billy) do not get to line up their star performer Robson in NZ Cup Final next week.As a recent Group One Winner (Waterloo Cup),he was a strong candidate to taste Group One success again,and then earn 2019/20 Greyhound of Year Honours.How Officials only 'punished' this FRAUDULENT CHEATING ACT with a pathetic $300 fine still beggars belief!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 2 hours ago, Taupiri Wonder said: How Officials only 'punished' this FRAUDULENT CHEATING ACT with a pathetic $300 fine still beggars belief!!! "How", well there's a few easy answers which all point directly at the GRNZ board & the RIU. Corruption Inability to execute their duty to uphold integrity & justice Favoritism Like I've said repeatedly, It's not about what has been done, it's about who's done it. Someone refuses to piss in the RIU's drug testing cup - Goneburgers. Someone email the powers & tells them exactly what they are - Goneburgers. Someone openly commits fraud which equates to match fixing (race fixing/field manipulation) - $300 fine. Well done, you pack of corrupt fuckwits. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 What do BOAY members think would have happened if this was Denis Schofield in the image instead of Bredon Cole? Enough said.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mehe Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 (edited) Yanking your still at it aye It's not denis in the photo so why even bring his name into it I see someone else got no fine for not bringing papers in for first time Edited November 8, 2019 by Mehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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