nomates Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 What has become of this once great race , has to be the worst field of nom's i have seen for this race , 250k , this field shouldn't be running for more than 100k , and i'm generous , nearly all the field on 53kg , top weight 57kg . It will be lucky to maintain it's G3 status at this rate . Very sad state of affairs . Was thinking of going but not so sure now . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 1 hour ago, nomates said: What has become of this once great race , has to be the worst field of nom's i have seen for this race , 250k , this field shouldn't be running for more than 100k , and i'm generous , nearly all the field on 53kg , top weight 57kg . It will be lucky to maintain it's G3 status at this rate . Very sad state of affairs . Was thinking of going but not so sure now . Have to agree, unfortunately the Thorndon has thinned out, do like the look of the Desert Gold field. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumbles Posted January 26, 2021 Share Posted January 26, 2021 20 minutes ago, Huey said: Have to agree, unfortunately the Thorndon has thinned out, do like the look of the Desert Gold field. Blame crap programming. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted January 26, 2021 Author Share Posted January 26, 2021 26 minutes ago, mumbles said: Blame crap programming. The karaka millions meeting and it's positioning has completely fecked with the ICONIC Wgtn cup carnival . That tho isn't to blame for the abysmal quality of the cup , this race isn't alone for lack of staying depth in NZ . Until we can get stakes that stop people selling anything that shows ability nothing is going to change . A friend had a small share in a filly , unfashionably bred , that ran a great 4th at it's first trial , would've won with a clear run and showed a great turn of foot , the first offer turned down started at 100k , after 2 more offers , gone to a big Victorian stable . Can't blame them , but when they are buying them at the price with that little exposure i can't see it stopping . We now purely and simply a feeder club now , no hope of getting back to the premier league . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Centaur Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 OK time for a bit of nostalgia. Justin Evans take note: Style triumphs over screaming. Peter Kelly in all his commentaries never missed a beat. Fluency perfection. The first Wellington Cup I attended was as a 14 year old. Arrived oncourse with a yearling for stabling at the sales just before the race. This was Great Sensation winning its 3rd Wellington Cup but couldn't really find a spot to see the race. Anyway here is Peter Kelly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA6nfXJkAsc&t=35s 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted January 27, 2021 Author Share Posted January 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, The Centaur said: OK time for a bit of nostalgia. Justin Evans take note: Style triumphs over screaming. Peter Kelly in all his commentaries never missed a beat. Fluency perfection. The first Wellington Cup I attended was as a 14 year old. Arrived oncourse with a yearling for stabling at the sales just before the race. This was Great Sensation winning its 3rd Wellington Cup but couldn't really find a spot to see the race. Anyway here is Peter Kelly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA6nfXJkAsc&t=35s Not often you can say a man was born with a voice to commentate horse races . Saturday mornings on ZB with Paddy O'D were not to be missed , one the comic the other the straight man . But they knew there stuff to , not like the fluff we have now . 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted January 27, 2021 Share Posted January 27, 2021 1 X3X74 Sergeant Blast(8g Darci Brahma - Glittering Girl) 2 X00D6 Te Akau Caliburn (IRE)(6g Camelot (GB) - Enchanted Evening (IRE)) 3 21163 Robusto(6m Zed - Adriatico) 4 X7740 Masetto(5g Cape Blanco (IRE) - Passchendaele) 5 00001 Dee And Gee(7m Darci Brahma - Gabana) 6 84465 Justamaiz(6g Guillotine - Arthena) 7 23353 The Good Fight(6g High Chaparral (IRE) - Pravda) 8 75110 Dragon Storm(6g Shocking (AUS) - Prize Lady) 9 48493 Dr Velocious(5g Haradasun (AUS) - Nevak) 10 33121 Waisake(6g Zed - Kincia) 11 70408 Duplicity(8g Duporth (AUS) - Bidthemobgooday (AUS)) 12 X0125 Super Hoof(6g Cape Blanco (IRE) - Trust) 13 14418 Swords Drawn (AUS)(5g Camelot (GB) - Sarvon (AUS)) 14 02766 Vee Cece (AUS)(5m Canford Cliffs (IRE) - Vereza) 15 14006 Awesome Al(7m Alamosa - Awesome) 16 72340 Bluey's Chance(7g Remind (USA) - Opera Dancer (AUS)) 17 99994 Jacksstar(9g Zed - Star Guest) 18 00879 Plushenko(6g Rock 'n' Pop (AUS) - Russian (USA)) 19 06764 King Of The Dance (AUS) (B1)(6g Animal Kingdom (USA) - Spirited Dancer (IRE)) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Centaur Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Really looks like Waisake/The Good Fight quinella. However seldom seen such a weight drop from one year such as Dee And Gee 59kg to 53kg. Just can't get a decent draw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KickintheKods Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Unaccustomed as I am to tipping winners, today will prove to be the exception. Justamaiz is WAY OVERS and deserves your attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 What a bloody good crowd that is, sadly the four foot nothing Aussie will be up there crowing about the state of racing and it's booming.......good luck to the punters that made it to the track, enjoy....and good on you all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 26 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said: What a bloody good crowd that is, sadly the four foot nothing Aussie will be up there crowing about the state of racing and it's booming.......good luck to the punters that made it to the track, enjoy....and good on you all. Wouldn't say its booming but many clubs do have their big days,today its Wellingtons turn it seems as I cant comment coz I've only just turned the tv on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark D Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Yip it is a good crowd despite the NZTR and NZB stuffing them round for the last few years. Public has turned up something that is a thing of the past for Ellerslie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 To be honest, didn't Auckland have their largest crowd in 13 years on what is traditionally their biggest day ? The place was jamm packed. I think on lesser days both courses would be equally empty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark D Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ronaldo said: To be honest, didn't Auckland have their largest crowd in 13 years on what is traditionally their biggest day ? The place was jamm packed. I think on lesser days both courses would be equally empty. What day was that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Boxing Day , newspaper reports had crowd at biggest in well over a decade and it was chaotic. That has always been their biggest day I believe going back to Derby days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark D Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Sorry I don't believe you. In the old days when the Derby was held on Boxing Day the infield was full as was the area in front of the stands and beyond. Now days they just just box them in to the the areas in front of the public and members stand. I watched it on Boxing Day this year and it was no comparison. Fake news. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 I feel for the connections of Rock On Wood, did they save him? does anyone know, can you post on here please. Watching the head on up the back Bosson pushes out on the Belle and shortly after Rock goes amiss.....I hope it's not connected, Bosson looked as weak as kitten pulling up, wasting no doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 11 minutes ago, Mark D said: Sorry I don't believe you. In the old days when the Derby was held on Boxing Day the infield was full as was the area in front of the stands and beyond. Now days they just just box them in to the the areas in front of the public and members stand. I watched it on Boxing Day this year and it was no comparison. Fake news. Bit much to say that when you weren't there. Lines at women's toilets 40 long, counted 30 in line for a beer. Had people who have been there every year remark to me they hadn't seen anything like that in many years. Got nothing to do with me, I'm no fan of theirs, just going by what I saw, what I was told and what paper reported. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark D Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Bit much? It's an opinion based on years and years of watching the races at Ellerslie on TV and very occaisionally in person. And there's always lines for the toilet at any course on any big day around NZ especially on courses like Ellerslie, Trentham and Riccarton (same at Flemington).. So stick to soccer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/fashion/87956467/bumper-boxing-day-crowd-at-aucklands-race-day Here you go, all but sold out. From Stuff never fans of horse racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, Mark D said: Bit much? It's an opinion based on years and years of watching the races at Ellerslie on TV and very occaisionally in person. And there's always lines for the toilet at any course on any big day around NZ especially on courses like Ellerslie, Trentham and Riccarton (same at Flemington).. So stick to soccer. Read above, if that info from anti racing site doesn't convince you give up. Also it is Herald opposition reporting and didn't Herald have a lot on input into the day ? I would venture I've been going there as long as you have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark D Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 They limit the tickets you clown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 You have about as much insight as Quincy Magoo you Mug. I've raced horses there for years, So paper says " sell out almost " trainers we talked to their mentioned how big the crowd was , but would would guys like Ken Rae and Stephen Ralph know . Guys that had been there 25 years in a row said how big crowd was but you can decry THEIR insights as well as mine from comfort of your lounge , what a dickhead you turned out to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Just now, Ronaldo said: You have about as much insight as Quincy Magoo you Mug. I've raced horses there for years, So paper says " sell out almost " trainers we talked to there mentioned how big the crowd was , but would would guys like Ken Rae and Stephen Ralph know . Guys that had been there 25 years in a row said how big crowd was but you can decry THEIR insights as well as mine from comfort of your lounge , what a dickhead you turned out to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KickintheKods Posted January 30, 2021 Share Posted January 30, 2021 Shall we double up on Sunburst Yes, lets do it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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