Reefton Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Now Bernard I see another of your prized venues looks like it has major issues with its ability to conduct racedays (to be fair this one not because of mismanagement but because of mismanagement of another sort) Just letting you know Reefton is available to run the Derby next week and as usual we guarantee a superbly prepared track with no bias inside or out(I don't know whether you have noticed but that is pretty rare with your premo tracks these days) It might be a couple of laps and a bit but you can be sure the track has been prepared under the supervision of people who actually know what they are doing. I shall await your advice shall I? 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Centaur Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 2 hours ago, Reefton said: Now Bernard I see another of your prized venues looks like it has major issues with its ability to conduct racedays (to be fair this one not because of mismanagement but because of mismanagement of another sort) Just letting you know Reefton is available to run the Derby next week and as usual we guarantee a superbly prepared track with no bias inside or out(I don't know whether you have noticed but that is pretty rare with your premo tracks these days) It might be a couple of laps and a bit but you can be sure the track has been prepared under the supervision of people who actually know what they are doing. I shall await your advice shall I? Not a bad idea yes bit of beyond the square thinking required. i.e. Transfer Derby to Trentham and Oaks to Ellerslie with Trentham next Sunday. Reprogram central districts racing for that weekend. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KickintheKods Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 The absolute hot gossip (this comes from a very reliable voice deep in the bowels of the Viaduct), is that the Derby meeting is being transferred to Matamata. It will have a change of name to THE TE AKAU DAVID AND KAREN AND JAMIE DERBY. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted February 28, 2021 Author Share Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) 57 minutes ago, The Centaur said: Not a bad idea yes bit of beyond the square thinking required. i.e. Transfer Derby to Trentham and Oaks to Ellerslie with Trentham next Sunday. Reprogram central districts racing for that weekend. Common sense but common sense is not something you see used in the NZ Racing hierarchy terribly often. There was a circular ex NZTR today re the Derby but I didn't read it just concocted a piss take BOAY post. To be fair to everyone it is a bit unfortunate for the ARC and everyone else. Not the sort of thing you like to see and would feel a bit hollow if your horse was good enough to win the thing Edited February 28, 2021 by Reefton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All The Aces Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 I see massive noms again from the South Island for the Derby. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All The Aces Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Same for the Oaks Don't they have any 3yos in the South Island Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted February 28, 2021 Author Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, All The Aces said: I see massive noms again from the South Island for the Derby. We would like to be nominating but can't risk going North lest we (1) catch some awful disease and (2) meet someone like you while we are up there 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nostradamus Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, All The Aces said: Same for the Oaks Don't they have any 3yos in the South Island Have you seen the programme down there no point having 2 &3 year olds down there hardly anywhere to go with them! They are almost as rare as a jumper, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 17 hours ago, Reefton said: Now Bernard I see another of your prized venues looks like it has major issues with its ability to conduct racedays (to be fair this one not because of mismanagement but because of mismanagement of another sort) Just letting you know Reefton is available to run the Derby next week and as usual we guarantee a superbly prepared track with no bias inside or out(I don't know whether you have noticed but that is pretty rare with your premo tracks these days) It might be a couple of laps and a bit but you can be sure the track has been prepared under the supervision of people who actually know what they are doing. I shall await your advice shall I? Don't give us this 'farmers are best at preparing tracks' b/s Reefer... HQ has a highly trained turf specialist with the latest tools in high tech that a county boy could only dream about... ..besides...there's more blue moons mooning your once a year meeting A stoner could produce a once in a blue moon track... Get a grip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 BTW HQ Racing SUNDAY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted February 28, 2021 Author Share Posted February 28, 2021 2 minutes ago, Thomass said: Don't give us this 'farmers are best at preparing tracks' b/s Reefer... HQ has a highly trained turf specialist with the latest tools in high tech that a county boy could only dream about... ..besides...there's more blue moons mooning your once a year meeting A stoner could produce a once in a blue moon track... Get a grip Is that why the track has been(over the years) regularly a disgrace? He must be a 'highly rated turf expert' - is he the same one who never realised there was a whopping great hole down the back straight? Or the one who failed to get a camera angle on part of the track? Or the one who failed to alert those golfers that there were likely to be horses in the way of their Saturday stroll? You claim to be an expert on all things racing but we can tell from the standard of your posts that you are a simpleton - maybe the same applies to your expert friend at Ellerslie? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Reefton said: Is that why the track has been(over the years) regularly a disgrace? He must be a 'highly rated turf expert' - is he the same one who never realised there was a whopping great hole down the back straight? The track has been stuffed for years. Same issues as all our premier tracks. Very little the Track Manager/Groundsman can do. It needs a major renovation. At least Ellerslie have a plan to rectify it. Can't say the same for Riccarton, Te Rapa or Awapuni. Imagine if the $16m being spent on the AWT track at Riccarton had been spent on the course proper? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark D Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 They should just postpone the 2021 Derby to 26 December 2021 - its proper place. It's a massive loss making race anyway so it will make the accounts look better for this financial year. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All The Aces Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 On 2/28/2021 at 4:18 PM, Reefton said: Now Bernard I see another of your prized venues looks like it has major issues with its ability to conduct racedays (to be fair this one not because of mismanagement but because of mismanagement of another sort) Just letting you know Reefton is available to run the Derby next week and as usual we guarantee a superbly prepared track with no bias inside or out(I don't know whether you have noticed but that is pretty rare with your premo tracks these days) It might be a couple of laps and a bit but you can be sure the track has been prepared under the supervision of people who actually know what they are doing. I shall await your advice shall I? With no South Island horses engaged surely it would make much better sense to bring down here to Hastings and race it over 2200m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted March 1, 2021 Author Share Posted March 1, 2021 (edited) 44 minutes ago, All The Aces said: With no South Island horses engaged surely it would make much better sense to bring down here to Hastings and race it over 2200m. Hastings is the go to alternative according to this afternoon's NZTR circular Dependent on Jacinda's call on Firday Edited March 1, 2021 by Reefton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark D Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Have to cut the field size as well wouldn't they? (he says when he has no idea of the noms). Why is Te Rapa not an option? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted March 1, 2021 Author Share Posted March 1, 2021 46 minutes ago, Mark D said: Have to cut the field size as well wouldn't they? (he says when he has no idea of the noms). Why is Te Rapa not an option? That's what I thought. They mentioned Te Aroha and somewhere else but Hawkes Bay got the nod IF Ellerslie is ruled out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Beau Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Te Rapa did their annual track renovations soon after their big day, that's why it's out. I wonder if the AWT at Cambridge would be an option? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Why are they not putting this 2 day meeting back a week , i have had a good look at the derby field and i see nothing in it that is going to be competitive in Sydney if it wins , and i'm sure the 2nd day events won't impact the Sydney aspirations of any of the older horses to any great degree . Run the races in the best interests of racing in NZ first , i'm sure if the NZ races didn't fit into a horse with Aussie races in mind the connections wouldn't race here just to help NZ racing . We should not be a supporting act . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 I'm afraid we are, and have been, a supporting act for a good while. I fear that the only incentive for an owner to maintain a promising horse in work here, is the prospect of an Australian campaign if it proves worthy. Make that harder and even more will head over, sooner rather than later. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 I'm not sure the horses care where they race..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 On 2/28/2021 at 9:21 PM, All The Aces said: Same for the Oaks Don't they have any 3yos in the South Island They probably do but not keen to go to Auckland in case they get some nasty disease🤨 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All The Aces Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 25 minutes ago, mikeynz said: They probably do but not keen to go to Auckland in case they get some nasty disease🤨 Last time I looked they race the Oaks at Trentham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All The Aces Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 Anyway. Looking forward to the Derby being raced here at Hastings where I can watch it live. Barbeque going, beer in hand as they thunder past. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted March 1, 2021 Share Posted March 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, All The Aces said: Last time I looked they race the Oaks at Trentham. Whatever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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