Rangatira Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 poor horse was scratched again. must be starting to feel like me when the hot date fails to show up all dressed up and such a waste of blue stratos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Rangatira said: poor horse was scratched again. must be starting to feel like me when the hot date fails to show up all dressed up and such a waste of blue stratos Very interesting as to why it was scratched today? Has anyone heard any rumours? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Rangatira said: poor horse was scratched again. must be starting to feel like me when the hot date fails to show up all dressed up and such a waste of blue stratos bet your got silver stars on your stratos to . do you get turned down on dates MARK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Brodie said: Very interesting as to why it was scratched today? Has anyone heard any rumours? Looking bigger divs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 21, 2021 Author Share Posted March 21, 2021 21 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Looking bigger divs cat well and truly out of the bag 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Rangatira said: cat well and truly out of the bag Ranga, what pussy out of the bag? Did they swab the horse for something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 21, 2021 Author Share Posted March 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Brodie said: Ranga, what pussy out of the bag? re getting a bigger dividend might have to line it up against budding superstar aveross spitfire if they want a price Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Brodie said: Ranga, what pussy out of the bag? Did they swab the horse for something? Geez you are not joining the conspirators as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Rangatira said: might have to line it up against budding superstar Westeros? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 21, 2021 Author Share Posted March 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: Westeros? unique away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Rangatira said: unique away u nick away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 18 hours ago, Brodie said: Very interesting as to why it was scratched today? Has anyone heard any rumours? Is the horse any good? Southland bred by sire with not many to the races as yet. Has anyone seen it go at the trials/workouts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 13 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Geez you are not joining the conspirators as well? Just wondering what the reason for the scratching is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 19 hours ago, Rangatira said: poor horse was scratched again. must be starting to feel like me when the hot date fails to show up all dressed up and such a waste of blue stratos From the Stewards' Report: JOHNNY NEVITS - acting on the advice of the on-course Veterinarian Stewards spoke with trainer C Jones regarding their intention to scratch the gelding due to soreness in the off front leg after examination. Mr Jones subsequently filed a Request for a Ruling disputing the Stewards decision, and after consideration of the evidence from the Stewards, Mr Jones and the on-course Veterinarian Ms Williamson, the JCA declared JOHNNY NEVITS to be a late scratching at 12.45 pm. A veterinary clearance is required prior to the gelding resuming. Trainer C Jones defended a charge under Rule 863 that he attempted to start an unsound horse to start in a race with the matter being adjourned to a later date. This is not a good look if the horse is in fact unsound. Why would a trainer start an unsound horse? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 Why were they backing it and so short? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 34 minutes ago, Brodie said: Why were they backing it and so short? top trainer in the making . well bred to train Derek ,skid, mark 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 54 minutes ago, Davis said: This is not a good look if the horse is in fact unsound. Why would a trainer start an unsound horse? Unsoundness was an interpretation by the Vet. Been many instances of where Vets have scratched horses that have actions that don't meet a Vets preconceived notion of being "sound". Remember Kiwi's scratching from his second Melbourne Cup? The difference is the pressure goes on when a horse has a lot of punters money on it. You can't tell me that the Vet looked at every horses action for soundness! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 21, 2021 Author Share Posted March 21, 2021 42 minutes ago, Noodlum said: You can't tell me that the Vet looked at every horses action for soundness! i wonder what time the vet would have noticed the horse was sore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 21, 2021 Author Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 hour ago, hunterthepunter said: top trainer in the making . well bred to train Derek ,skid, mark harness dynasty there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Noodlum said: Unsoundness was an interpretation by the Vet. Been many instances of where Vets have scratched horses that have actions that don't meet a Vets preconceived notion of being "sound". Remember Kiwi's scratching from his second Melbourne Cup? The difference is the pressure goes on when a horse has a lot of punters money on it. You can't tell me that the Vet looked at every horses action for soundness! OK, but what if the vet is right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, Davis said: OK, but what if the vet is right? Which in vast majority of cases they are as they have testing protocols to follow. In doing so they protect the publics money so good on them i say. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 11 minutes ago, Davis said: OK, but what if the vet is right? The bigger issue here is consistency. Why only focus on those horses that have significant amounts of money on? Does the Vet check EVERY horse that races? NO they don't. How would you determine the Vet was right or wrong? How many serious breakdown's have you seen on a harness track? The Vet says the horse is lame. The Trainer says no it isn't - the horse always paces like that. Why would it be in the Trainer's interests to start a horse that was lame? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 6 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: Which in vast majority of cases they are as they have testing protocols to follow. In doing so they protect the publics money so good on them i say. How do you know they are "right"? These "testing protocols" you talk about what are they? Where are they documented? In the past there has been many a good (if not great) horse scratchy or pacing rough in their warmups. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 7 minutes ago, Noodlum said: How do you know they are "right"? How do you know they are wrong.?? This is a silly game you seem to like to play Chief. You would argue black if someone says it white. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 3 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: How do you know they are wrong.?? This is a silly game you seem to like to play Chief. You would argue black if someone says it white. Where are the protocols that you refer to? You don't know do you? You just assumed and made it up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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