JJ Flash Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Noodlum said: Where are the protocols that you refer to? You don't know do you? You just assumed and made it up! Do your own research and stop being a clown. Ask your old mate Leo? But just to help you out any open lacerations are a no go as are any signs of lameness when either horse is trotted up or flexion testing done by registered vet. Im sure the above wont be enough for you but i dont care as will others with an IQ above 30 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 minute ago, JJ Flash said: Do your own research and stop being a clown. So you don't know? Typical! 2 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: Ask your old mate Leo? I've never known anyone called Leo that I would call a "mate"! More crap from Flash. 3 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: But just to help you out any open lacerations are a no go as are any signs of lameness when either horse is trotted up or flexion testing done by registered vet. So where are the written protocols? For integrity purposes there would have to be written guidelines at least. Although one wouldn't be surprised if there weren't any. Shit if there were Pete Lamb would have been sacked years ago! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 21, 2021 Author Share Posted March 21, 2021 30 minutes ago, Noodlum said: The bigger issue here is consistency. Why only focus on those horses that have significant amounts of money on? Does the Vet check EVERY horse that races? NO they don't. did adhara undergo a pre race soundness test yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 21, 2021 Author Share Posted March 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, Rangatira said: did adhara undergo a pre race soundness test yesterday did motor mouth undergo a post race soundness test today ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blossom lady Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 2 hours ago, hunterthepunter said: top trainer in the making . well bred to train Derek ,skid, mark Really!!! how about you explain how cam is related to DG, skid and mark then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 21 minutes ago, Blossom lady said: Really!!! how about you explain how cam is related to DG, skid and mark then? Media have reported he's the son of leonne jones,married to peter jones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 22 minutes ago, Rangatira said: did motor mouth undergo a post race soundness test today ? How many were tested? In the interests of Integrity (the RIU's middle name) and transparency shouldn't that be publicly notified? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 21, 2021 Author Share Posted March 21, 2021 2 minutes ago, Noodlum said: How many were tested? In the interests of Integrity (the RIU's middle name) and transparency shouldn't that be publicly notified? i guess it will be in the stewards report that will be available "soon" after the last today the racing units version of soon is often at odds with my version and very much so yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karrots Posted March 21, 2021 Share Posted March 21, 2021 47 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: Do your own research and stop being a clown. Ask your old mate Leo? Im sure the above wont be enough for you but i dont care as will others with an IQ above 30 JJ what are you up to? Come on here to inject insults and toxicity, then creep back over to RC to post nicely & copy what has already been posted here first re Lamb start (Ranga’s post) & Johnny Nevitas (Ranga). 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 21, 2021 Author Share Posted March 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Karrots said: JJ what are you up to? Come on here to inject insults and toxicity, then creep back over to RC to post nicely & copy what has already been posted here first re Lamb start (Ranga’s post) & Johnny Nevitas (Ranga). know any copyright lawyers karrots ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 21 minutes ago, the galah said: Media have reported he's the son of leonne jones,married to peter jones. LOL are you sure they got that right? Wouldn't want real facts to get in the way of the beat up now would we? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Noodlum said: Why only focus on those horses that have significant amounts of money on? Does the Vet check EVERY horse that races? NO they don't. race day vets are acting on the stewards advice/instruction. 1/ take pre-race blood swabs list 2/ take the post race urine swabs of winners (and possibly others the stewards ask for. 3/ Assess horses Post race that have not performed to the Stewards expectations. (check heart ,etc) 4/ check horses condition Pre-race IF notified of an incident (such as got down on the float, got a kick, etc) by the Trainer or the Stewards. Good vets can spot things before you. I had one all over me like a rash as came back in to stable area after a race, with blood in one nostril .so I just told him I hit the barrier arm with the pulling poofter. 1 hour ago, Noodlum said: In the past there has been many a good (if not great) horse scratchy or pacing rough in their warmups It's a tough caper. Most trainers have been going around for years. A Lot of horses have issues with hooves and tendons (These have The vast majority of lameness issues) as the forces generated on them are enormous. No trainer would start a horse they know well , if even remotely thinking it was sore enough to be a hazard to others. I'd estimate from experience about 1 in 10 racing has some sort of minor issue . just like human athletes. The horse on this thread is only new to the Trainer by the sound of it , so stewards have every right to scratch it , and YES , a knowledgeable Vet would have a few minor tests he/she could perform. some are very simple such as feeling heat in a hoof with your hand. A sure fire sign of hoof ailment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 56 minutes ago, Karrots said: JJ what are you up to? Come on here to inject insults and toxicity, then creep back over to RC to post nicely & copy what has already been posted here first re Lamb start (Ranga’s post) & Johnny Nevitas (Ranga). Wouldn't worry about it Karrots. I don't even though I find him bloody annoying. The good thing about JJ Flash is he is consistent and transparent. You can always see through him! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Wouldn't worry about Karrots. I don't even though I find him bloody annoying. The good thing about JJ Flash is he is consistent and transparent. You can always see through him! we all know he fartstoomuch 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 47 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: LOL are you sure they got that right? Wouldn't want real facts to get in the way of the beat up now would we? Well leonne jones was formally in partnership with peter jones as trainers. Husband and wife. Cam jones is her son. Cam jones uses peter jones colours. 2 plus 2 =4 to me. Whats it to you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 6 minutes ago, the galah said: Well leonne jones was formally in partnership with peter jones as trainers. Husband and wife. Cam jones is her son. Cam jones uses peter jones colours. 2 plus 2 =4 to me. Whats it to you. I was being facetious. You quoted the media as a source. I was just pointing out how can you actually believe anything they write? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Karrots said: JJ what are you up to? Come on here to inject insults and toxicity, then creep back over to RC to post nicely & copy what has already been posted here first re Lamb start (Ranga’s post) & Johnny Nevitas (Ranga). Arvo Troll, clearly your not reading all the posts. Correct i posted news from RIU reports which are public knowledge, as in the HRNZ Stewards reports. As for Lamb, does it interest you that i started that thread on 14th December 2020 - i may have well started a similar one re Cup Day shambles - so nothing new there. Do keep up the conspiracy theories re my posts if it makes you Happy Good to see you are enjoying RC, some good posters over there just as there are here. eg Basil, Gamma The Galah to name a few. Edited March 22, 2021 by JJ Flash 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karrots Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Wouldn't worry about it Karrots. I don't even though I find him bloody annoying. The good thing about JJ Flash is he is consistent and transparent. You can always see through him! Ok Chief, fair enough, you are very tolerate. Imagine if one of us regulars joined up over there & behaved like that there. I suspect they would chase that person off, or have words with them and rightly so. Doubt they would tolerate it. There is room for both sites anyway. Gives different personality types choices too & some can be on both. Anyway moving on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 5 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: Arvo Troll, clearly your not reading all the posts. Correct i posted news from RIU reports which are public knowledge, as in the HRNZ Stewards reports. As for Lamb, does it interest you that i started that thread on 14th December 2020 - i may have well started a similar one re Cup Day shambles - so nothing new there. Do keep up the conspiracy theories re my posts if it makes you Happy Good to see you are enjoying RC, some good posters over there just as there are here. eg Basil, Gamma The Galah to name a few. Lamb is untouchable it seems. He has stuffed starts galore over a long period and little done. Addington sacked him but he continues to stuff up at other tracks. Sack him for good NZHR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share Posted March 22, 2021 30 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: I was being facetious. easily her best foal 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 3 minutes ago, Davis said: Lamb is untouchable it seems. He has stuffed starts galore over a long period and little done. Addington sacked him but he continues to stuff up at other tracks. Sack him for good NZHR. Can i assist you here - its the clubs who hire the starter. The only thing HRNZ does is license the starters, form filling exercise effectively.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 13 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: Can i assist you here - its the clubs who hire the starter. The only thing HRNZ does is license the starters, form filling exercise effectively.. How does he keep getting a license? Hopefully, the promised code of conduct, if it ever appears, will include accountability and criticism of starters and stipes? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Davis said: How does he keep getting a license? Hopefully, the promised code of conduct, if it ever appears, will include accountability and criticism of starters and stipes? Because with the the exception of NZMTC the other Canterbury clubs want him. I suspect their is also a potential legal issue lurking in the background Edited March 22, 2021 by JJ Flash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 54 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: I was being facetious. You quoted the media as a source. I was just pointing out how can you actually believe anything they write? Ok,didn't get that originally. Finally we agree on something. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 21 minutes ago, Rangatira said: easily her best foal Who is it Ranga? Facetious is showing 8 foals with only 5 wins between them. ARVEEAE showing $60,000 winnings from 1 career win , so maybe him? a derby or something maybe? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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