JJ Flash Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 (edited) 12 hours ago, Brodie said: We have had the TAB hierarchy continue to make utterly stupid financial decisions to the point where they were basically broke and needed tax payer bailout. You are talking about Previous TAB board and management. In case you had not noticed ,new racing act and totally different governance set up , plus a CEO who knows what he is doing . Just look at how he improved NZMTC after Goodbers reign of losses Edited April 26, 2021 by JJ Flash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: You are talking about Previous TAB board and management. In case you had not noticed ,new racing act and totally different governance set up , plus a CEO who knows what he is doing . Just look at how he improved NZMTC after Goodbers reign of losses Yes it was a different Board, but it was a board that lost something like $100 million in reserves? They are still very non transparent! No details on anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whiplash smile Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Davis said: You make some very good points mate. Increased turnover is probably from online betting Brodie. I do most betting through the TAB website and also watch the races there too. Occasionally, I go to the TAB for a bet, but the nearest one is the Sandridge quite a way from my home. That's why I prefer betting online. You are right about the Pub tab machines you don't see many using them. I go to the Rock, Rolleston regularly and seldom see anyone betting although the races are showing. While at the pub, perhaps people prefer to bet online through their phones? That's certainly more convenient. The biggest TAB turnoff I have at the moment is bonus bets. How do you get them? My mate gets them regularly but I have never had one. He told me to withdraw all my winnings because that's what he does. I did that and still no bonus bet. I am disillusioned about it. I have been on a winning streak since the NZ Cup meeting so that could be the reason. Seems bonus bets are also restricted for winning punters? Have you signed up for the promotions and news through e-mail? Check that first, I never had one for years and now If you withdraw all your money seems about once a month, I prefer the internet aswell and only use the TAB when I am unsure if the Bank deposit will go through before race one as can take 4 -5 hours with co-op bank. Went to a pub that has an independant TAB from the bar to deposit some money for local meeting and it was a wednesday but there was just a sign on the counter saying wine o clock only self service machine, so hurried to another tab just to wait 20 mins with hardly anybody in there and just made the first race. Same two pubs use to take the fields down hours before the races finished so they could till up and just tell you to use self service, dont care if you want to cash a ticket, come back tommorow Auckland cup night, walk in the fields have been taken down and it was only 8pm!!! Couldnt get served friday night as it got busy (and it really was) and drinks take priority so had to travel to yet another pub just to deposit money a lot of us will remember when they first put the tab in pubs and seen the service just plummet and continually decline so much may aswell junk it into pokies, they even get priority over tab. you still see the odd hardened punting veteran at the tab but sometimes the service used to leave me frustrated now staring at a cardboard sign an empty tab and a pain in the ass machine that when the drinkers get on there for a bet leave you waiting for 5 mins or so while they try to figure out what they are doing, they think they are at a jukebox. After these type of things a $10 bonus bet where they keep the initial stake is not going to make me jizz in my pants from the excitement! but I didnt realise that you have to be signed up for promotions and thats why never recieved one till updated my id for brodies favourite aml act. I can admit though if I just organized things earlier then I wouldnt have to deal with these things and unlike Brodie dont have to worry about the fixed odds much and % betting has made trebles to cheap to get those really big divvies, quinella tri first 4 p6 plc6 not worth it to me So please keep investing in the quaddies and keep the pools up before this is a joke aswell, some of the returns for First 4 are so measly cause of the pools and can see the early quaddies heading that way. So people who do you think is the most disgruntled TAB punter me or brodie??? I can prob get most of his bets on by being only slightly creative but when it comes to TAB ranting I think I might have him covered even tho we are both right `on the money` with these Total Absolute Bastards! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 2 hours ago, JJ Flash said: You are talking about Previous TAB board and management. In case you had not noticed ,new racing act and totally different governance set up , plus a CEO who knows what he is doing . Just look at how he improved NZMTC after Goodbers reign of losses You keep saying that ad nauseum but the fact is nothing has changed. It is just the same organisations with different names and the same groups of people playing tag as they wander on and out the revolving jobs. The new Act has changed SFA. Same with Mackenzie. The new Act facilitated Racefields charges and the creation of a mega RIU/JCA organisation. But the former has delivered stuff all additional revenue and the latter is yet to start. McKenzie and the TAB are still effectively in insolvency management overseen by the DIA. All he has done is shift cost off his balance sheet and devolved it to the codes. Net gain to the industry is actually a loss as we will see collectively an increase in administration and marketing costs across the three codes. Meanwhile we are seeing less and less transparency and publication of financial information as we race full tit towards the $35m day of reckoning in August when the overdraft facility comes up for renewal. Meanwhile the Thoroughbred industry has been suckered into investing $48m into 3 AWT's without any hope of covering annual opex. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted April 26, 2021 Share Posted April 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Brodie said: Turnover would increase substantially if they allowed punters bets to be taken! They put up the odds and then say, these odds are only for punters we want to take money from. By these huge restrictions on punters they are costing themselves big by reducing revenue. This is debateable Brodie as you have said many times, you are a 'large bet' customer and a winning one at that. The TAB is a big business and cannot operate 'In The Red' . Davis also said is on a winning streak. It doesn't take Einstein to know that you blokes follow the sport, and could be damaging if 'winning ' all the time , from whatever system you use. (card counters are quickly identified in casinos and expelled, etc) How can you blame Betting agencies for keeping the winners under 'control'? they would be showing you have either inside knowledge or a system that 'beats' theirs . You and would be wanting them restricted I would think, as exactly as you said , I know of no-one new (nor old except myself for that matter lol) who even bets on harness racing. therefore those that do (and win) regularly must stand out like dogs balls. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 hour ago, JJ Flash said: You need to take your balance back to zero via withdrawals on say Sunday evening to your nominated bank account. Come Thursday you should start getting them. Thats how it works for others JJ on the money yet again 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Rangatira said: JJ on the money yet again Never according to Neville Wong aka Chiefy. He has no idea on some racing matters as his last few replies to me show but im like others done with him and his attitude . He can join HTP in the bin and argue with himself Edited April 27, 2021 by JJ Flash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 10 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: Never according to Neville Wong aka Chiefy. He has no idea on some racing matters as his last few replies to me show but im like others done with him and his attitude . He can join HTP in the bin and argue with himself How many years has the new broom been in play JJ? When will the good times arrive? Stick to commenting on how TAB punter accounts work as you have no idea about the administration and financing of the racing codes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 hour ago, whiplash smile said: Have you signed up for the promotions and news through e-mail? Check that first, I never had one for years and now If you withdraw all your money seems about once a month, I prefer the internet aswell and only use the TAB when I am unsure if the Bank deposit will go through before race one as can take 4 -5 hours with co-op bank. ! Thanks Whiplash I'll try signing up for promotions and see what happens. Cheers mate 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, JJ Flash said: You need to take your balance back to zero via withdrawals on say Sunday evening to your nominated bank account. Come Thursday you should start getting them. Thats how it works for others Thank you JJ. I took the account back to zero last week and no bonus. I'll shall be patient and I may get a bonus bet someday? 🙄 Edited April 27, 2021 by Davis spelling errors 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 22 minutes ago, Davis said: Thank you JJ. I took the account back to zero last week and no bonus. I'll shall be patient and I may get a bonus bet someday? 🙄 No problems Davis, very surprised as it worked for me every time i tried it and i'm not a winning account for TAB. I have heard of them offering $50 bonus bet if you put in $100 and some were winning accounts and others losers. Must be random? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 26 minutes ago, Davis said: Thank you JJ. I took the account back to zero last week and no bonus. I'll shall be patient and I may get a bonus bet someday? 🙄 I have not had a deposit bonus offer for maybe 3 weeks despite reducing my balance to less than $1 each monday this has happened in the past so I anticipate it resuming soon 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 15 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: No problems Davis, very surprised as it worked for me every time i tried it and i'm not a winning account for TAB. I have heard of them offering $50 bonus bet if you put in $100 and some were winning accounts and others losers. Must be random? best i have had is deposit 150 and get a 70 bonus bet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 1 hour ago, JJ Flash said: Never according to Neville Wong aka Chiefy. He has no idea on some racing matters as his last few replies to me show but im like others done with him and his attitude . He can join HTP in the bin and argue with himself the chief in my opinion is very fair and mild mannered but he does perk up for you JJ are you spud carroll by any chance ? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 6 minutes ago, Rangatira said: the chief in my opinion is very fair and mild mannered but he does perk up for you JJ Only because he is consistent in telling us how great this mob is doing ra ra blah blah when the reality is completely different. I've been fooled too many times before by Racing administration to not recognise more of the same old same old. Plus it winds me up to hear JJ putting the boot into Harmess while blowing smoke up Thoroughbreds arse when it is largely the latter that has got us into the current mess. Hell what would Harness do with the $30m social welfare infrastructure paymemt that Winston gave to his Galloping mates?! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 40 minutes ago, Rangatira said: are you spud carroll by any chance ? Na Mark Carrol never ran away! Plus Paul Harragon is better looking than me. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rangatira said: I have not had a deposit bonus offer for maybe 3 weeks despite reducing my balance to less than $1 each monday this has happened in the past so I anticipate it resuming soon Another problem is if your TAB account has zero dollars you cannot watch the races on the site. I had this problem last week at Auckland. Earlier in the week, I withdrew my money in the hope of a bonus that never came. I did not bet at Auckland but wanted to watch some of the great races there. I had to deposit money into account so I could watch Sundees Son and co. Edited April 27, 2021 by Davis 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 12 minutes ago, Davis said: Another problem is if your TAB account has zero dollars you cannot watch the races on the site. I had this problem last week at Auckland. Earlier in the week, I withdrew my money in the hope of a bonus that never came. I did not bet at Auckland but wanted to watch some of the great races there. I had to deposit money into account so I could watch Sundees Son and co. some how i always manage to have multiple cents in there not sure how that came about but its handy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Rangatira said: but he does perk up for you JJ Thats not all he does, Hes the king of arrogance,clickbait and BFF of Rod , The Galah ,Hesi and Happy. Oops , i forgot Noodlum. Imagine working under him when he was a senior manger- woop woop Edited April 27, 2021 by JJ Flash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 19 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: woop woop welcome to woop woop was certainly different 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 17 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: Thats not all he does, Hes the king of arrogance,clickbait and BFF of Rod , The Galah ,Hesi and Happy. Oops , i forgot Noodlum. Imagine working under him when he was a senior manger- woop woop Jj, there is absolutely nothing wrong with backing yourself! The country would not be in the mess it is if people would grow a backbone and stop believing and following Ardern. Chief isnt arrogant, he just expresses his opinion which is his perogative. What I have learnt in the last year or so is that there are too many people easily led in NZ. Speaking your mind is liberating rather than being easily led. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 27 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: Imagine working under him when he was a senior manger Do you want references? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karrots Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, Karrots said: OMG G, that is so adorable. Go you. Re Gordon-Levitt, its not so far-fetched if he is free that weekend. Check out his latest interview from NZ like to 1 of those popular USA TV shows. He heaped praised on Ardern for Covid response, as many of the Hollywood big shots do. If she is attending with Roberston for e.g and Cambridge slip him or his publicist a PM an invite, stating they would be in VIP area, no photos are allowed in that area for example. Also too even if Ardern wasn't attending, for someone like him being here now and being able to attend an event as such while his country is in lockdown etc, and he chose to come here to leave that specially, he would appreciate it and it would be a NZ experience for him, a potential once in a life-time thing to do while he is here. Food for thought anyway. Little Ludwig, what do you not understand about this type of concept? Here you go again down voting my posts. Ill explain further, an itinerary could be set out for the family of 4 who could make a weekend of it, over Queens Bday wkd, they could fly from WLG-HLZ Day 1 Sat: Arrival Hamilton airport, pick up rental car from airport, drive to accomodation in Waikato. Drive to Rotorua or Mt Manganui for a day excursion. Day 2 Sun - Attend Harness Jewels Cambridge. Day 3 Mon Visit Hobbiton in morning, fly back to WLG from HLZ in evening. Do you understand how much publicity something like this could get? The praise re Arden/Covid even made your local paper. Think I read it in Herald at the time. https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-national/hollywood-stars-epic-praise-nz-after-moving-down-under Edited April 27, 2021 by Karrots 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karrots Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 Now a sad reaction. Why? You don’t get it. Ludwig - do you realise that Ashburton had the Jewels taken off them which is now at Addington. Have you noticed I have tried to help Cambridge Raceway by trying to create enthusiasm and a build up for the Jewels? Eg a fun competition raising donations and donating myself. Have also created 3 seperate threads on here 1. 2y-os just for fun Jewels 2. Countdown til the Jewels (which interestingly enough a few days later became the name of an article on HRNZ after I posted it on here) 3. Draw for Jewels check your numbers HRNZ are also now onboard which if fantastic with a weekly update. Helping promote and build interest in this years event. ALL GROUP 1 RACES. It should be promoted. A BIG DAY. No I have zero affiliation with Cambridge and no I get nothing from any of these efforts. Just as Gamms said earlier in the thread trying to be positive & look for ways/ideas to encourage input & enthusiasm how I can. And all you are doing is just being negative and seemingly closed minded to simply ideas. Good publicity = more interest = more knowledge of the event = more money/turnover (ideally). Im going to block you soon, because you are starting to really tick me off. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted April 27, 2021 Share Posted April 27, 2021 21 hours ago, JJ Flash said: Never according to Neville Wong aka Chiefy. He has no idea on some racing matters as his last few replies to me show but im like others done with him and his attitude . He can join HTP in the bin and argue with himself lol are you getting lonely on the has been channel Paul? aka fartoomuch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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