All The Aces Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 RaceInfo Meetings Meeting News INDUSTRY UPDATE – ABANDONMENTS MEETING NEWS INDUSTRY UPDATE – ABANDONMENTS INDUSTRY UPDATE – ABANDONMENTS Friday 11 November – Awapuni & NZ CUP Riccarton – Saturday 12 November The NZTR Board have now considered all reports provided on the respective abandonments at Awapuni on Friday 11 November & NZ Cup Meeting held Saturday 12 November. Reports were received and reviewed from Club, RIB, NZSTI, Independent Track Manager and Irrigation specialists. Both RACE & Canterbury JC have been provided with the NZTR Board findings of these reports which also include proposed sanctions with regards to funding. Both Club’s have a right of reply to these findings and further relevant details will be provided to the wider industry by the end of next week. Following on from these abandonments, communication with Clubs will begin earlier leading up to Race week to ensure track preparation is on schedule & identify issues, NZTR and the NZ Jockeys Association have also put in place an application for senior jockeys to provide feedback and ratings regarding Track surfaces immediately post Raceday. This is designed to assist NZTR and further support Track managers identify and address any concerns when it comes to their respective track surfaces but also identify when work being done is having a positive effect. NZTR and the Regional Track managers held the first Regional Field Day at Ellerslie on Thursday 17 November with Turf and Equipment experts present to support the knowledge of the Northern Track Managers. The CD Field Day is being held today and a Southern Field Day will also be held once a suitable date can be identified. This is all aimed at increasing the capability of our Track managers and allowing them to build further networks with their peers for support and advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 It's like both clubs now have teachers aids to help them concentrate better on their lessons . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 1 hour ago, All The Aces said: Both RACE & Canterbury JC have been provided with the NZTR Board findings of these reports which also include proposed sanctions with regards to funding. FFS Sanctions! What Sanctions do the NZTR management incur? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Will there be voluntary redundancies per chance?........voluntary pay cuts?.......this is what happens in most business's, it happened to ours back in the 80's crash, what has changed?.........just got greedier me thinks. Something stinks to high heaven, incompetence springs to mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy connolly Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 Rigmarole, it's too late having postmortems a month after an event, especially when the evidence of incompetence has been tampered with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 So now Awapuni is coming into question again. Can these absolute incompetents at NZTR not see that every track in the country that can be raced on is needed to be put into action and made available, forget ya Grand Tours and junkets on the p@@s the industry needs to get through race days or its gone -so get off ya butts and start talking to the clubs before we have another utter farce happening again. While youre at it time to bin silly BS "Venue Plan" report and reinvigorate the industry, how much carnage needs to take place before they will change course? cause what youre currently doing isn't working! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Centaur Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 On 2/12/2022 at 9:19 PM, Joe Bloggs said: Will there be voluntary redundancies per chance?........voluntary pay cuts?.......this is what happens in most business's, it happened to ours back in the 80's crash, what has changed?.........just got greedier me thinks. Something stinks to high heaven, incompetence springs to mind. JB. Rather than start a new thread I thought I'd catch you here. Sad to hear about passing of Ronnie Franklin recently. You must have known him early days in Hawera. I note his first winner was Bravata at Marton 1973. He won for me in 1975. I'll always remember that day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted December 8, 2022 Share Posted December 8, 2022 TC, I left Deacs in 72, Ronnie was a fresh faced little kid, a gopher, like all kids we gave him hell, he could hardly sit on then, of course Ginner's stables were way up over the rail crossing, and so we didn't see a lot of that mob other than at track work, more McEwans, but by gee Hawera was a powerhouse then.....happy days. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Report on RACE and CJC abandonments now available on Love Racing website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Report attached. Industry Release - Awapuni and Riccarton Abandonments Nov 22 FINAL (1).pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Goodbye Awapuni I'd say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 Gee, those reports were an absolute godsend. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 just move them to the AWT next door....simple//// Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 31 minutes ago, Freda said: Gee, those reports were an absolute godsend. At least they will have stopped anything similar happening again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 minutes ago, Doomed said: At least they will have stopped anything similar happening again. Oh, definitely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 44 minutes ago, Special Agent said: Goodbye Awapuni I'd say. Not with this lot running the sport, they'll keep banging their heads on the wall till there is no one left racing! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 This is the club that is trying to get a trainer out of Awapuni , well there is only one group should be packing their bags . Calling it a fucken disgrace is an understatement . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Can you hear me laughing from there?..........you have to laugh, there's nothing left to do...........although I bet all those that travelled far wont laugh..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 It is looking like the AWT locations just need to concentrate on that. That is already the case at Cambridge, probably needs to happen at the other two as well. Let them concentrate on what they are "good"at. Quite a few decent turf tracks within a couple of hours of both locations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 9 minutes ago, Doomed said: It is looking like the AWT locations just need to concentrate on that. That is already the case at Cambridge, probably needs to happen at the other two as well. Let them concentrate on what they are "good"at. Quite a few decent turf tracks within a couple of hours of both locations They haven't had a chance to fuck them up yet. Just wait. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Farmers as caretakers and the many hard working volunteers at racing clubs nationwide were replaced by highly paid experts. Well hasn't that worked wonders for the racing industry!! As far as holding back funding to RACE and the CJC is concerned that is a step or two short in my opinion. After today's effort all racing licences at Awapuni need to be withdrawn for at least 12 months until the course proper is in a fit state to be raced on safely. How many more chances should RACE be given? Stop racing at Awapuni before someone is maimed or worse. This would give opportunity for serious reduction in personnel, a management take over, real estate sales sorted to remedy the financial woes and the course proper and horse facilities to be renovated. The simple solution could be to sell Awapuni to bolster the national racing fund. It would be a prettier balance than if left to the small clubs asset grab. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Huey said: Not with this lot running the sport, they'll keep banging their heads on the wall till there is no one left racing! I was watching Basil Fawlty last night. I assume he's a close relative to some of those managing NZ racing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Chief is it possible to add an abandonments odometer to the site , to keep track of them all. I'd say it will need to be 4 or 5 digits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 27 minutes ago, Huey said: Chief is it possible to add an abandonments odometer to the site , to keep track of them all. I'd say it will need to be 4 or 5 digits. No need. Winston assured us the AWTs would solve the problem of abandoned meetings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assange Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 I have some questions. Aren't there supposed to be horses galloping on the day before the races to ensure they are safe and don't the stipes check the track before the races start? Whatever the procedure is, its not working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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