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      Today we have seen the only remaining truly independent racing industry publication "hang the bridle on the wall."  The Informant has ceased to publish.
      Why?
      In my opinion the blame lies firmly at the feet of the NZRB.  Over the next few days BOAY will be asking some very pertinent questions to those in charge.
      For example:
      How much is the NZRB funded Best Bets costing the industry?  Does it make a profit?  What is its circulation?  800?  Or more?  Does the Best Bets pay for its form feeds?  Was The Informant given the same deal?
      How much does the industry fund the NZ Racing Desk for its banal follow the corporate line journalism?
      Why were the "manager's at the door" when Dennis Ryan was talking to Peter Early?
      Where are the NZ TAB turnover figures?
      The Informant may be gone for the moment but the industry must continue to ask the hard questions.
       
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    • Thank you Spatchcock. Appreciate that. Tis my right to point out the error of their ways! Treat all punters equally and I will not need to point it out. When some punters are restricted to pathetically low amounts and the TAB employees are treated with total favouritism and are allowed to wager and win unlimited amounts, it needs to be discussed. Why is it right to be treating punters differently? Spatchcock do you really believe that they are operating ethically, and would other businesses get away with it?    
    • A couple of Japan’s Longines Hong Kong International Races contenders have been given glowing report cards from Thursday’s trackwork ahead of their intended targets on Sunday’s blockbuster card at Sha Tin. This year’s Group One Hong Kong Vase (2,400m) looks a particularly wide open affair and Urban Chic, who is one of the leading contenders for trainer Ryo Takei, was given a strong word by his handler. Winner of the Group One Kikuka Sho (3,000m) at Kyoto earlier this year, he was last seen...View the full article
    • He might have to adopt 10 greyhounds come the end of July next year. 
    • For the love of God, Brodster, give it a rest. You whinge worse than 10 children.
    • i'd never heard of the ai thing doing the pricing,but i've just googled what you said and am surprised just how common it already is becomming around the world and how common it is for people to use ai programmes to do their betting.. i suppose its a bit like what the tab already does with its algorythms on certain peoples accounts.They have for a few years now been immediately reducing the odds of any runner that receives support from punters who are identified as winning punters.i can imagine it wouldn't be hard for the tab to identify all the winning punters,have all the betting information from those peoples accounts input into  some sort of programme and the odds  be set accordingly from there. Really thats why they have tried to push everyone into betting over the internet,so as to identify the winning punters ,so the tab can reduce the amounts that they will potentially lose. its a bit like all those punters who have computer programmes which trigger betting for them on the win movers. thats been around for some time. People that don't follow racing,but are computer smart,making their living out of having a  computer programme which analyses win movers and how the computer would make the decisions of when to bet. Theres was lots of people who use betfair that seem to be doing that and i'm sure it would be happening in australasia,especially australia. i also had a theory that the best way to make money was simply identify who the winning punters are,hack into their accounts and have a computer programme replicate their betting. SImple as,your in the money. Actually when i was making money not that many years ago i actually complained to the tab that i believed that was what someone was doing. There was a consistent pattern of every horse i backed dropping in price  and i had concluded it had to be that.I actually complained to the tab and asked them to investigate whether anyone else was accessing my account other than me,but they just seemed to think i was paranoid,but thats  i believed.. If i was smart in how to hack and a little dishonest,thats what i would do.Simple as..  anyways,back to the ai thing. I can imagine what nowornever says about having an advantage of betting as soon as the markets come out,but of course not many can be bothered to do that,i never ould be bothered when i used to bet, even though i knew that was a way of increasing profit.I suppose those that do will make a bit of more money and those who have the same selections ,but bet after the prices have dropped will win a bit less. thats why the whales are such dumb bets,Of course people are going to say,well he turns a profit,because he would based on getting on early,but because he ruins the odds with his early bets,those that follow are never going to make much.Then again,maybe they are happy almost breaking even. so it sounds like its not going to be ai that will make it harder for punters to make money from racing,its the fact ai will use the information they gain from winning punters that will give ai the winning edge.
    • Opened way over the odds. If the horse was racing at Manawatu it would have been sub $5.00. Bookies simply got it wrong like they do a lot of the time these days.  Take those opportunities while you can. A few of the Aussie bookmakers are using AI now for their Aussie harness opening prices, I got told by someone working at one of the main ones.  Not long before it happens here. They open them at any old price but don't let anyone on for any big amounts until there is liquidity in the pools and by that time the market has sorted it self into something close to true odds. Yes there will be overs on many runners early but the catch is you cant get much on at those prices. I am picking 3-6 months before AI pricing is introduced here.
    • Starting Pool $37,006 from customers & $5000 Betcha Bonus Cash Payout 45,338  They didn't say if A Brodie was among the benefactors!
    • The first question was posed over a year ago Pretty substandard Who won the 1997 NZ Derby   ChatGPT said: The 1997 New Zealand Derby, a horse racing event, was won by a horse named Summer Knight. The New Zealand Derby is a prestigious horse race held annually at Ellerslie Racecourse in Auckland, New Zealand. Keep in mind that my information is accurate up to January 2022, and I recommend checking more recent sources for any updates or changes.   You said: Who won the 1997 NZ Derby (asked just now)   ChatGPT said: The winner of the 1997 New Zealand Derby (run on 26 December 1997) was Marlow. If you’d like, I can also give you the placegetters or info about the horse and connections.   You said: Is that the thoroughbred Derby   ChatGPT said: Yes — the New Zealand Derby is a Thoroughbred classic race. To clarify: The 1997 New Zealand Thoroughbred Derby at Ellerslie was won by Marlow. This is the Group 1 race for 3-year-old Thoroughbreds run each December. If you want, I can also tell you the placegetters, the trainer, jockey, or race details.   You said: Yes   ChatGPT said: Great — here are the 1997 New Zealand Thoroughbred Derby details: 🏆 Winner: Marlow 🎓 Placegetters: 1st: Marlow 2nd: Love de Game 3rd: So Casual 📍 Race Details: Date: 26 December 1997 Venue: Ellerslie Racecourse Race: Group 1 NZ Derby (2400m) for 3-year-olds 👤 Connections: Trainer: Mark Walker Jockey: Opie Bosson If you want, I can also give you details about any other Derby year or the horses involved.   You said: No it was Zonda   ChatGPT said: You're absolutely right — the 1997 New Zealand Derby was won by Zonda. Here are the correct details: 🏆 1997 New Zealand Derby (Thoroughbred) Winner: Zonda Jockey: Lance O’Sullivan Trainer: Dave & Paul O’Sullivan Date: 26 December 1997 Venue: Ellerslie Racecourse Zonda was a highly regarded son of Zabeel, and his Derby win is still remembered as one of the most impressive of the era. Thanks for the correction — and if you'd like info on any other Derby or horse, just let me know!
    • Well at the moment it falls well short of accurately collecting facts, so the addition of narrative is essentially a waste of time. I have found it useful at collecting a range of references to a subject I might be looking at.
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