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Never look. Don’t bother with form and stuff. Waste of time. Just focus on what’s happening on the exchange for harness racing. TAB doesn’t let you win much anyways. Sounds like the site is crap. Couldn’t be worse than grnz and that Love Racing thing is pretty crap. Anyway if you wanna know what’s happening with this fixed odds information I’d email them. Might reply, might not, but worth a try. 

thought i would have a look at the form for tomorrows oamaru races. when i click on the horses, it says the service unavailable. so i thought instead  i would have a look at the videos of a couple of races i didn't bother to watch today from hawera. again the service is unavailable. oh well,i'm told last nights  90 day fiance ,happily ever after,which i recorded was a doozy.so i will watch that instead. probably save money by doing that anyway.

Amount of information out of HRNZ is okay, it's the accuracy of it, and the omissions that are the concern.

Lib and Katrina Petagna’s Elsdon Park is fast building a reputation for excellence despite still being in its infancy. The Wellington couple took ownership of the stunning Matamata property formerly known as Valachi Downs in 2022, and their investment is paying dividends. Under the watch of General Manager Kerrie Cox, quality graduates are already emerging from the farm, while Petagna’s well-known apple green silks with a navy sash and navy and yellow striped sleeves continue to be prominent on the racetrack. Elsdon Park will present 32 yearlings (28 Book 1, 5 Book 2) at Karaka this year, but can be rightly proud of having four graduates of last year’s draft qualified for Saturday’s Listed TAB Karaka Millions 2YO (1200m)  “It’s a big draft from us this year, with a lot of quality and I think horses that will suit a variety of  budgets and purposes, including trade horses or end users,” Cox said. “To have four horses that we have bred potentially going to run in the Karaka Millions 2YO is quite an achievement.” Among them are the Johno Benner-trained pair of De Armas (NZ) (Ardrossan) and Butler Cabin (NZ) (Ardrossan), with the former an unbeaten stakes winner,  the Andrew Forsman-trained Ellerslie winner Stromlinien (NZ) (Almanzor) and the Lance O’Sullivan and Andrew Scott-trained debut winner Dashing Dixie (NZ) (Alabama Express). “While two-year-old racing is not the be-all and end-all, it is nice to be producing sound horses which is very high on our priority list with how we grow them and raise them. “We use specialised nutritionists for their bone development and muscle development. It is a big tick for us that these horses are coming out and being nice, sound two-year-olds. “The four runners in the millions range from a $16,000 online purchase in De Armas to a $450,000. Filly in Stromlinien, and I think that’s really awesome.” The Elsdon Park draft includes yearlings by a number of sires Lib Petagna has an interest in, including nine yearlings by Waikato Stud stallion Ardrossan. “Lib was in the ownership of Adrossan when he was racing and then retained shares in him when he went to stud,” Cox said. “He’s a really good-looking horse and we never got to see the best of that horse on track. “I think the people who saw him race and the people who were involved with him knew what a good racehorse he was going to be. “We have supported him strongly and we’ve bred the majority of his stakes winners and stakes performers to date. We have sent him some really nice mares and he leaves a cracking type. “We’ve been well rewarded, not only in the sales ring but also those horses have gone on to be nice racehorses. We have Ardalio (NZ) (Ardrossan), who is a three-time Group Three winner by Ardrossan running in the Railway Stakes (Gr.1, 1200m) on Karaka Millions night too.” Cox said since taking control of the farm, the Petagna’s have continued to develop on the great foundation the Hickman’s and Valachi Downs had built and they have an eye to the future with Elsdon Park home to a broodmare band of around 80. ”The Hickman’s and Valachi downs did a wonderful job establishing the farm. The facilities are top quality. “We sort of settled in and then made some changes after about a year being here and we put in a new foaling unit and yearling parade area and have adjusted a few things and we have a great team. “Looking ahead, we are interested in standing a stallion, and whether that’s going to be this season, which we’d be quite keen on, we are not sure. “We’ve just got to find the right one that not only suits our broodmare band, but one that also suits the New Zealand industry.” The Elsdon Park colours have been to the fore in recent weeks care of classic hopefuls Ammirati (NZ) (Savabeel) and Day One (Wootton Bassett), who are both prominent in betting for the Gr.1 New Zealand Derby (2400m), while last Saturday’s Gr.3 NZB Desert Gold Stakes (1600m) winner Fairy Dream (NZ) (Proisir) is another graduate of the farm, sold to Roger James and Robert Wellwood for $360,000 at Karaka 2024. ”I think Lib gets his biggest thrills in the industry through winning those big races, not only in our colours, but also with horses that we’ve bred and that people have purchased off us,” Cox said. “Now that he has Elsdon Park and this beautiful broodmare band, which with the help of Bruce Perry he has developed over a number of years, he comes to the farm a lot and his interest in the breeding side of the industry has really grown. “Whilst it is a long game, it’s one where once you’re in it, it doesn’t seem that long because every year you’ve got the next crop coming through.” Lots to Watch Lot 97 – Per Incanto x Santa Catarina Colt. Photo: New Zealand Bloodstock Lot 97 – Per Incanto x Santa Catarina colt “We’ve got a Per Incanto colt out of Santa Catarina. He’s a half-brother to Stromlinien. He’s a really well-balanced, forward, strong Per Incanto. He’s got this real strength of Per Incanto, and he’s definitely got stamped by the Savabeel influence from his dam side. He’s a lovely horse and I think he’ll appeal to pretty much anyone when they see him. Personally, I think Santa Catarina is going to be one of our best mares going forward. She’s just a magnificent-looking horse and she was fast.” Lot 375 – Alabama Express x Daniela’s Magic Filly. Photo: New Zealand Bloodstock Lot 375 – Alabama Express x Daniela’s Magic filly “The Alabama Express filly out of Daniela’s Magic. She really should probably be in the keeper paddock, to be honest. She’s one of the most beautiful-looking horses. She’s big and scopey, bold and strong. She’s got a great brain on her and the mares doing the job, she’s left an Australian stakes winner already, only a young mare and she just leaves a belter type and this one is no different. Alabama Express fillies are in hot demand.” Lot 400 – Maurice x Eleonora Filly. Photo: New Zealand Bloodstock Lot 400 – Maurice x Eleonora filly “She is very much like her Dad. I saw him in the flesh last year and I was quite impressed. The mare is a beautiful big chestnut mare and this filly’s half-sister, Ethereal Star, was a chestnut as well and she was an incredibly fast stakes-winning two-year-old that ran second in the Karaka Millions. She has got that precocity to go early and she has a great brain and is a beautiful filly.” View the full article

A massive week of racing, buying and selling awaits! Michael has some breaking news before looking ahead to the Karaka Millions, before heading out to Karaka to chat with some heavy hitters ahead of the 100th Yearling Sales. Plus a tribute to Via Sistina following her retirement. Guerin Report – S2 Ep.20- Karaka Millions & Yearling Sales Preview View the full article

Cranbourne trainer Cindy Alderson left Ellerslie on Tuesday morning well satisfied that Jigsaw (Manhattan Rain) is on target for his Gr.1 Sistema Railway (1200m) mission. The last-start winner of the A$1 million The Meteorite (1200m) on his home track in late November confirmed his position as equal favourite for Saturday’s big sprint with a bold hitout under regular rider Logan Bates. “I was really pleased with him, he appeared to enjoy himself and Logan confirmed that he handled it well going right-handed,” Alderson said. “He arrived on Sunday and has settled in well at Donna Logan’s stables at Byerley Park, so having a look at the track this morning will have set him up nicely for Saturday. “He’s had right-handed experience in Queensland and the StrathAyr surface is familiar given he’s a winner at Moonee Valley. “They timed him to run his last 600m in less than 36 (35.65s officially), which was all he needed to do on top of the trip over.” Jigsaw, a seven-year-old gelding by Manhattan Rain, is in the form of his life with wins at his last three starts, the second of those being the Gr.2 McEwen Stakes (1200m) at Moonee Valley on Cox Plate day. He won The Meteorite by three-quarters of a length over Railway rival Arkansaw Kid (Harry Angel), who has accompanied Hayes Racing’s Karaka Millions 2YO (1200m) candidate Torture (NZ) (Sword Of State) to Auckland. They worked together at Ellerslie, timed for their last 600m in 36.52 without being pressured. The Liam Birchley-trained Karaka Millions 2YO pair Dream Roca (NZ) (El Roca) and Vanzadee (NZ) (Vanbrugh) were ridden in solo gallops by Sam Collett, who reported that they both got through their task well. “The chestnut filly (Vanzadee) ran quicker time (36.51) and the other horse just strolled around (in 39.18), but they both had a good look at their surroundings and given they’ve just got off the plane they felt good,” Collett said. One of the most scrutinised horses at the Ellerslie gallops was Well Written (Written Tycoon), the hot favourite for the Karaka Millions 3YO (1600m), who pleased trainer Stephen Marsh in her hitout with stablemate The Exponent, clocking 34.81 for the final 600m. “I thought she worked up very well, I really couldn’t be happier with her,” Marsh said. “She just needed an outing as she’s been very relaxed at home, so this works out perfectly for her. “Matt said he was ultra happy with her, and now that we’ve got her where we want her, it’s just a matter of counting the days to the weekend.” View the full article

i watched the race many times before posting. the reins were out the back and don't see the reins being a factor in why becker fell.. i think its prety clear becker got cut off by delany wanting to do so about 100m before falling,not sure what on earth delany was thinking. then c hackett doing the same just prior to becker falling,without any apparent thought of what was happening inside her. things like that shouldn't happen,but they do up there. i have said a few times,i think its an indication of lack of oversight by those in control and maybe inexperience and sometimes like today,just lack of common sense. the stewards could have called it off,but really who could have anticipated the driving of those involved in becker falling.

It appeared that several of the drivers thought the race was going to be called off by their actions! Personally think it should have been but then I am not a stipe. Think Becker may have stood on the loose reins down the back straight.

Shab, they want punters to increase the TAB turnover so that they have employment! So you know the answer Shab? The thing is that BOAY is a forum that is to discuss harness topics and maybe someone from HRNZ could actually advise all of us at the same time? So Shab, what do you think the reason is for them to give these fixed odds and then taketh away? Shab, are you happy with the amount of information that comes out of HRNZ?