Huey

Ho hum - coal face , you call taking a 2% share in a few horses the coalface lmao!

Apparently there is $500k set aside for innovative racing clubs or something like that, so thats just another way of siphoning off funds to the protected few.

Stop playing the man and start play the ball "TAB Fairy" - tell us all how good this stakes distribution is going to be for the industry? I'm all ears , the floor is open to you tell us how this is all going to play out and make the industry better? Especially for those people at the coalface .

I'm not sure they are robbing the asset rich for the poor, I think they are robbing them for the rich. Many of those mentioned in the articles in your previous posts.

Agree, I'm picking it will be at Te Aroha. I think they should use one of the under utilised tracks and turn it into a jumping mecca. But they probably won't.

All part of the illusion isn't it?

Pleased to see some increase , but like you can't see the point in the top end increasing by $10k, I just cannot see it making a material difference. Just as I cannot see the $2k making much of a difference to an owner on an industry day. Appears as though only paying the starters fee to 10th like in Aus. so may have been some savings there.

Promising? https://loveracing.nz/OnHorseFiles/NRB Meeting News/NZTR media release re stake increases.pdf

That isn't enough at the bottom end?

Could not agree more Mikey, I know of many who just don't bother with it without the radio. The disconnection that has occurred without it has been enormously detrimental. But apparently according to some it was a good idea, when in fact it will prove to be one of the worst decisions ever made in nzracing = and that is saying something!

Some great points made about the NZTR witch hunt, just proves to the industry their ineptitude and lack of focus on the real issues surrounding the industry. I am more and more convinced by the day , that racing cannot survive in this country unless there is a significant clean out at the governing body soon!

Going to be such a mess : http://www.theoptimist.site/?fbclid=IwAR2soao7W4hKNKAG8g_eQt2XPK461zOUM1OGROrBxaLD4hl87P82yrjYcRY

Whilst I dont disagree its days are numbered. What do people expect they are jumping races after all, they have taken away the jumps on the corners to stop the falls there, if you take anymore away they are just going to go faster and become glorified flat races. The 5 falls were in the mdn hurdle at HB where they do go a bit quicker. What happens to the horses that are proper jumpers that can jump? What is the point of having them in work, more wastage. I think the game will more likely be up via a lack of interest. What do people think of the NZTR initiative to have one venue like a Warnambool & where do you think it should be?

What's of real concern here is that no one outside of the racing industry appears to have noticed this (when nowadays this sort of thing is usually pounced on from a great height) once again showing just how irrelevant the racing industry has become to the common man or even media in general .

Most that win here, can win over there. Because there is just so many different levels of racing going on. I guess a lot of people like to stay involved and watch their horse in the flesh , grow etc and thats something that keeps them in the sport here in NZ. But who ever said it is right - you have to be a little crazy (delusional helps also) to be involved here , especially outside of the those that take small shares in horses.

Grammalite has made some excellent points. But if you really want to know whats wrong with thoroughbred racing in this country look no further than our governing body NZTR.

You don't think these people think they actually have to justify anything do you?

Only 3 full fields there yesterday assuming they start 12? A 6 horse field in the R65 grade.

Seems like most of us have been completely wrong about the AWT at Cambridge, according to many yesterday its a massive success. Still just so I can be right royally put in my place , has anyone seen any wagering figures on these race days yet? I assume they are already profitable for the industry at this early stage? Anyone???

Certainly for thoroughbred racing imo one of the area's we need big change in was the governing body, unfortunately we never got that with all of these reports coming and going. Imo it needed as much of a revamp as the NZRB got. It all beginning to feel a bit late for that.

Unfortunately Aus gave us someone with little understanding of racing and in particular Provincial/Country racing , we will see the fruits of such recruitment over the next few years is my prediction.

I'd be disappointed to see any increase go into top level stakes, been there done that before, The bottom end is bleeding & is in desperate need of something (having said that a lot of it the bleeding has been assisted or created by the likes of NZTR) . Does this then beg the question, when do they start trying to sell up the family silver?

3. Is a very good point and I guess somewhat part of the semantics of it all.

Interesting to see which way the stakes go. From an Industry day perspective I'd say they would need to increase by at least 50% (I mean is 2k - 2.5k going to make any material impact at the bottom end) to have any reasonable impact , perhaps at the top level by another 7.5k -10k outside of Group racing , NZTR seem in a bit of a rock and a hard place with this one in that it does not appear they have enough funds to make any significant impact? Table from the optimist website.

From the Optimist : “Horse numbers are good. Synthetic tracks are a game-changer for the industry and once the new TAB NZ Board is appointed, we will be advocating for all revitalising options to be considered. As you are aware, investment by TAB NZ in the acquisition and retention of customers, especially through technology, is required to drive customer growth.” - BS (literally) Horse numbers look good because they (NZTR) have shrunk the industry to reflect that, if the AWT is that good - anyone seen any wagering figures?? The rest I realise just corporate BS that BS himself specializes in.