Huey

Did Sword of State show yesterday just how weak this years Karaka millions really was?

Plausible doesn't make it so. It's a shocker of a call, but hey that's in the past now. How about the poppies huh, selecting which horse to do a positive on, maybe the plants will take over after all.

How about the Guineas First4 , wow!

Reminds me of Northerly for some reason.

Wouldn't waste my time hypothesizing the situation, I'm just that stunned that you believe its plausible. Ever thought of becoming a real stipe ?

You dont strike me as gullible CS , you really dont.

Doesn't matter it's an illegal substance. The cattle were even out in paddocks near horses in work , you'd have to be a big fan to believe it.

Seriously though a 6 figure horse ,going for a G1 race is going to be put in a paddock with cattle while it's in work? Are you telling me you think that's something they did?

Oh c'mon how on earth is it plausible?

Wait a minute, are you serious do you think the cobalt trough story was legit?

A pretty fair question from Horace to my mind, the silence around this has been deafening. To your credit CS you've had some robust discussion on it on boay.

Here is a really impartial view from NZTR https://loveracing.nz/News/32622/Raceformcolumn.aspx Looks like the trainers absolutely love it and have been waiting to get the best out of it when it rains, sounds like its going to be a super asset for the industry!

Let me clear it up for you, if the hay has a tinge of tangerine in it nothing to see here ...simple as that really. I think CS got some story as to how its happened he might be able to expand on.

Hopefully we get to see if she ventures over, I think Aegon looks special has done since his Guineas win, as an older horse he maybe something very special to watch out for.

Would we though? Without them would the quality bloodstock be less expensive and more evenly spread out amongst the other trainers and more affordable prices? also would the middle end drop to the lower etc Are TA really picking up the top end of the Aus market , they seem to get what they want in Aus at any rate, I mean would Avantage be considered as successful had it solely campaigned in Aus? Of course I'm only saying this as a battler myself.

Yes the Stipe

also related to that , I've heard a few murmurs about the stipe in question also and her lack of empathy for those dealing with the horse, so in this instance perhaps its not as clear cut as its made out to be. Not sure if she hasn't had any experience with horses particularly before races or not , but maybe she could take the opportunity to lead a big strong 3yo Exceed and Excel filly around the bird cage before its asked to do its thing on the race track.

Yep goes with the territory somewhat with 2yos, but I can see your point, would the field be any different running for $70k save the other $30k for 3 industry races.

Good3 at 7:30am 1st race anyones guess!

Isn't that just an outcome of our racing being so weak though? Take the WFA this week as an example, you could make an argument for 3 or 4 horses being genuine G1 NZ class , there is also an argument none of them are international class? That top layer of horses is also being reflected across the board in NZ and thats why that stables dominance is so prevalent. The quality of animal in that stable is so far beyond anything else in the country at the moment that statistically they are going to be successful , barring any significant bad luck. Have a look what they line up at midweek meetings and couple that with the pool of jockeys they have at their disposal and you'd have to be pretty delusional to not see why it all comes together. As for comments regarding MB ,OTB, Brando & Amamerilinha 57.5k,90k,500k & 300k are significant purchases when you're racing in NZ well at least in my humble origins of the sport. Now take a look at what this quality of animal and jockey they are lining up against in NZ ( I think its getting worse as well) and that gives it a bit of context. Agree and don't get me wrong I think he is an extremely hard worker and deserves his success but it does need to be put in some context.

Absolutely agree, I'm guessing wasted I'm also in the future guessing going to be wasted.

It's certainly going to be an interesting scenario to watch unfold and I must admit I look forward to seeing it, though I still think NZ racing is so weak and that stable so dominant in every single facet of the sport the results are somewhat amplified.

The grabbing is coming , you think not?

Interesting you say that with the loss of Poverty Bay, Wairoa , Woodville, Stratford, Waipukarau any others can anyone apart from the obvious asset grab give any evidence as to how this is making the industry operate any better ?