The Diceman's Been

I'm tipping TArse is odds on to tip over in the upcoming tip off if he actually turns up. Tank you Thomas - but your engine has been billowing bullshit black smoke for ages. Time to park up at a dilapidated Cindy scrapyard, and bore the shite out of the other rusty airheads.

Cindy is a world recognised leading fake, with a fishy fisherman friend and a set of fangs that only a horse would welcome. And, she attracts people like you. And because of that, even I have a tinge of sadness for her. On second thoughts, no I don't. You were born for each other.

TArse If you needed further confirmation that Whisky Winn has gone to sleep on the Racing Industry, I am happy to provide it. And does Socialist Cindy give a flying fig? Of course she does. Just look at the sincerity on her face.

Very appropriate from you TArse, more shite, but stick to the topic.

My gut feel is that there is more chance of TArse coming out, than there is of the so called planned changes to the industry being implemented. The word from deep in the corridors of Petone, is that there will be delays followed by more delays, and then a postponement, and eventually an abandonment to the afore mentioned changes proposed.

Another example of your bullshit

TArse, you have of superior knowledge on everything, so what is you take on the need for the blue shirted Billy Bunter leading the dogs around at the hounds at Whananghui today. Do ya fink Cindy might need 10 Immigrunts to take his place while he takes a dump mid afternoon? There would be another 10 needed in the staff cafe to feed the poor malnourished bugger. And another 10 to man the sump pump after the dump.

Do we need 10,000 Pakistani security guards at the mossies ?

Lefties dont like history or historians because they are able to quote from the past the ideological socialist and communist governments of multiple countries that have killed their populace, destroyed their countries economic engines and indoctrinated their people. Cuba, USSR, Venzuela, Germany, North Korea, Angola, Albania, Czechoslovakia, Romania etc.........When we look back at Jacinda government well see how she refused to acknowledge the death and destruction in Venezuela that even her Socialist friends are recognising and calling for an end to.Her political tone deafness is there for all to see, if you dont have your Socialist tinted glasses on.

Fake love and compassion Learnt in the classrooms of her socialist teen years.

Bullshit She's a show pony of Group 1 quality, and as fake as your sincerity. An embarrassment to all genuine Kiwis.

The victory of Mystic Journey in Saturday’s $5 million All-Star Mile at Flemington was so many things to so many people. To owner, Wayne Roser, who spent just $11,000 at the 2017 Tasmanian Magic Millions Yearling Sale on a filly that has now won nearly $3.3 million. To Adam Trinder, who, just two weeks ago, became the first Tasmanian-based trainer in over 100 years to saddle up a Group One winner on the mainland and continues to prove his gal is hardly a one trick pony. To linebreeding devotee, Ralph Zito, who believes that simply putting X to Y won’t send you on a Mystic Journey. To Ballarat’s Damien Murnane who pocketed $250,000 as Mystic Journey’s ‘owner ambassador’. To the Victoria Racing Club, which got the fairytale finish it was looking for after putting on the world’s richest mile race on turf. And to Mystic Journey’s strapper Bronte Page, who held on as long as she could before pulling the metaphorical whip, yet couldn’t contain her delight as Mystic Journey sailed to the finish line (and by the way, if you want to know what this game is all about, check out the video at: http://ow.ly/9nIn50npaCi) However, the biggest winner on the day was the Tasmanian thoroughbred industry which consistently proves it’s not about the size, but size of the fight. Mystic Journey was raised in Tasmania, sold in Tasmania, trained in Tasmania and is by a Tasmanian-based sire in Needs Further. And that’s a whole new journey in itself. Bred and raced by Gooree Park Stud in New South Wales, Needs Further – a half brother to dual Group One winner Hallowed Crown – won three of his five outings, including the Group Three Carbine Club Stakes. Randwick Bloodstock Agency’s Brett Howard certainly thinks so: “When Needs Further retired, I got a call from Gooree’s Andrew Baddock who rated the horse extremely highly. “I did too. He’d only raced once as a 2YO, finishing third behind subsequent (Group One) Champagne Stakes winner, Skilled, and also trialled well against some very good horses. He then came out and won his first race at three – by six lengths at Kembla – then won his next one in town before capturing the Carbine Club (1600m).” Shortly after the Carbine Club, Black Caviar defeated Hay List in a barnstorming finish to the TJ Smith Stakes over 1200m. Turns out Needs Further had run a quicker final 200m than Black Caviar! Unfortunately, Needs Further had some leg issues and was retired after just one more start. Howard decided to purchase the horse himself, along with partners, Joe Panzera, Eddie and Carlo Deluise (Australian Thoroughbred Farm), believing Needs Further would be relatively easy to place at stud. “Clearly there weren’t many who shared the faith,” a bemused Howard explains. “I reckon I contacted just about every stud in Australia and even some in New Zealand, and the silence was almost deafening. Stand a stallion with a name like Needs Further? Are you kidding me? They knocked him back because they didn’t like his name!” So, Howard looked south: “Armidale Stud in Tassie could see what I saw, plus I’ve known the Whishaw family for years. Wonderful people. “Once David (Whishaw) and his mother, Robyn, had seen the horse they had no hesitation in purchasing a large interest. “Armidale couldn’t have done anything more in helping to promote this horse. His progeny have been so well presented at sales and he’s gotten off to an absolute flyer with his only three crops of racing age. “Not surprisingly, we are currently receiving a regular stream of calls from mainland studs interested in acquiring Needs Further. “We’ll obviously consider all offers and ultimately he might end up on the mainland, but history will remember where it all started. And by the way, the price may have gone up a touch!” David Whishaw, though, doesn’t believe it’s a foregone conclusion Needs Further, needs to … well, head further. “We (Armidale Stud) have always set fees at realistic levels, based on prizemoney in Tasmania and, when Needs Further first came down, maidens were worth only $12,000,” Whishaw reveals. “That’s why he stood for just $3,300 in his first four seasons and $5,500 for the last couple. “We’ve had various stallions produce Group One placegetters, but the last Tasmanian based stallion to sire a Group One winner was El Moxie and he ended up back on the mainland in a blink. “The industry was far more insular then though and not many mares came to, or left the shores of Tasmania. “Transport is so much better these days – if you can have Mystic Journey heading up to Melbourne the day before and winning big races, what’s stopping owners from sending down their mares for several months where the grass is greener and agistment cheaper?” According to the Australian Stud Book, there were just 286 mares covered in Tasmania last season, with Armidale’s Alpine Eagle covering a book of 91 (including 30 from the mainland), while Needs Further covered 49. “It’s a shame really that the Tasmanian industry doesn’t get a bit more recognition, particularly given the strike rate,” Whishaw adds. “For instance, Needs Further was the first sire to produce a stakes winner in his year (Pateena Arena) and was leading the first season charts by Christmas, but he got nil traction. “He’s had the Champion 2YO in Tasmania for three years running, plus he’s thrown the winner of every 2YO feature race in our state (five of the last six juvenile stakes races) … and again, nil traction.” “Needs Further is also the fourth leading sire of 3YOs in the nation with just 29 runners: obviously Saturday helped but look at who is ahead of him and remember the numbers and quality of mares they’ve covered – Zoustar, I Am Invincible and Redoute’s Choice … all with at least two or three times the runners.” “There should be no viable reason why the stallion couldn’t stay in Tasmania and have the mares come down here. “I’m just grateful to those who have supported the horse.” Tim Brown, Victorian and Tasmanian Manager for Magic Millions, believes the rise and rise of Mystic Journey is an absolute boon for the Apple Isle thoroughbred industry. As he does with all Tasmanian Magic Millions Yearling Sale entries, Brown had inspected Mystic Journey at Armidale, leading into the 2017 auction. “I wish I could tell you that there was something that caught my eye,” Brown explains. “But there was nothing really special about her. She was a just a neat type who appeared to be typical of the Needs Furthers which, if anything, speaks volumes for the sire. “He’s a very good stallion and warrants much more attention from mainland breeders. “By my reckoning, Needs Further has only had the one sell outside of Tasmania – at the 2017 Adelaide Magic Millions – but I’d image you’ll be seeing more of them coming across in the years to come.” Brown has always been a huge fan of the Tasmanian industry and points to the state’s recent graduates: “They (Tasmania) always seem to come up with a good horse every couple of years. “The Cleaner won three Group races in Melbourne and they loved him, while Palentino was a dual Group One winner. Mongolian Khan was bred by Graeme McCulloch’s Grenville Stud and he was twice New Zealand Horse of the Year, while you also have current million dollar earner, Hellova Street. “Given they have so few mares in the state, Tasmania really punches above its weight!”

What might have been...…..hindsight is always easy after the event, but I cannot help thinking there will be at least six Kiwi stud masters contemplating what might have been after the running of the big money race in Melbourne at the weekend. I was asked to try and find a home for a new stallion here in NZ and consequently approached half a dozen studs. He wasn't expensive, but had a terrific pedigree and looked the part. One stud showed good interest but finished up going for another stallion. He finished up in Tasmania and is now being chased hard by all the leading Oz studs. Well done to the Tassies for taking a punt and winning big time.

Well, I can assure you I have had dealings with a couple of very morally and legally corrupt barristers and solicitors in my lifetime, to my benefit I might add, that your argument is not in any way valid.

Absolutely Fark the media. Two faced pack of arseholes IMHO

Nothing to see here folks. Move on please. That was merely Paul H passing a piece of paper with the written instructions on how he wanted the horse ridden...…..the note was in the form of an obituary notice. The intent of the note was crystal clear. I want the horse ridden DEAD, and it was.

Copied from another website but undoubtedly the best description of the situation that I have read: It is widely known John Key, through his childhood, was raised by his solo parent mother within the security of a state house then shook off the shackles of state support to became a very successful and wealthy business man and eventually one of NZ’s most popular Prime Ministers. The “chair and author” of the report from the Tax Working Group, Sir Michael Cullen once called him, “A working class scab” clearly with reference to his motivated abandonment of social dependency in his pursuit of self determination. And we can all recall Cullen's “rich prick" gibe and his reference to Key as a “scumbag". So it is clear, that in Cullen views, successful motivated people as significant roadblocks in the promotion of socialism. Sir Michael Cullen received a fully funded scholarship to Christ College in Christchurch. In his maiden speech in parliament he had this to say: "I'm proud of the fact that my secondary education was not paid for by the taxpayers of New Zealand but by the farmers of Canterbury and Hawke's Bay. I ripped them off for five years then, and I shall get stuck into them again in the next few years”. Cullen has the entrenched hatred of anyone who has the audacity to dismiss the state from their lives. His claim that taxing the investments of the perceived wealthy then redistributing it to those with no investment or savings is an act of fairness. This is a deliberate and manipulative lie. Some call it “envy tax" but I call it “dependency tax" Cullen has no reason for envy. His, not insignificant wealth, has been accumulated through a lifetime of state employment whether as a university lecturer, MP or appointments to Government working committees. Never once has he risked his own capital in a venture that provided productivity, employment or income. His accumulated wealth is entirely from the trough. And the trough is never deep enough for socialists. This trough is their indoctrination fund. Dependence on the State is their ultimate goal. They need money to harvest more towards the entrapment of socialism. And there is no other person more qualified than Cullen to implement this progression. That is why I view the taxes as dependency taxes. Cullen is a very dangerous and manipulative socialist and his focus is firmly set on the discouragement of independence through socialist legislation and taxation. We must never surrender our will to take risks, to trust our instincts, and to pursue our dreams. If it all comes crumbling down, just do it again, but differently. Socialist can go to hell. Socialism is the personification of cowardice. I would rather sleep under a bridge than sell my soul to socialism. If you think we got rid of Clarke and Cullen ten years ago your mistaken. Like a cancer in remission, they're back with their puppet child Ardern. They had unfinished business. They don't know how to move on. They don't even know that they are also the victims of socialism, brainwashed into submission.

"What is it about Socialism that it's very mention draws towards it with magnetic force every fruit-juice drinker, cardigan wearing, nudist, sandal-wearer, sex-maniac, Quaker, 'Nature Cure' quack, lecturers, pacifist and feminist in New Zealand, and especially those who think they know it all on BOAY."

And clearly you like to lecture.

Agreed Shu He's an embarrassment. Chief, get rid of the scumbag.

Agreed. Some of those blokes look like they belong on Tele Tubbies. I'll bet they have to buy those white shirts from the tent shops. However, the main reason I don't like watching them is because of the guilt it causes me. I usually have to put my pie and chips, packet of Tim Tams and the Fruit and Nut choco bar, plus my pint away in the kitchen while the coverage is on. On the other hand, I like it when Karen Walsh walks her dogs to the start. She looks like a real fitness freak. I wouldn't be surprised if she chased the lure with her team at home.

You answered your own question Mr Reefton There were rumours about Whisky Winn and Give It Up Glenda doing the rounds for years

As Ranga says, things can get a little messy at times, but overall the LOVE IS SHARED AROUND HERE

Wayne Kerr????