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And he's not even 20 , old farts stuck in their world where they are rulers and never wrong .

Hopefully enough to pay the frauds off . Trainers should be baying at the offices before they trudge home .

This is the club that is trying to get a trainer out of Awapuni , well there is only one group should be packing their bags . Calling it a fucken disgrace is an understatement .

Lot's of scratchings , heaps of trainers hoping for a good track at Ruakaka next Wednesday , they could end up with 15 races looking at the nom's .

This is exactly what's going to happen , i currently have small share in 2 horses with one of the big syndicators and fortunately both are going well , bought one each of the last 2 sales , but i have all but made the decision that i won't be going back in next sales . It's not cheap even with my small share cost but with the expected slashing of stakes i just can't justify it , 1 of mine in particular could well be competing in some of our better races next year but if they are slashed to the level that they should i will be pushing for my horse to be racing in Australia .

Just go Sargent Schultz on them , " I see nothing " .

Well he seems to have covered the full glossary of excuses available to him in that one story . Most of them piss poor weak .

Should be increasing them seeing as they now have 2 world class tracks to watch racing on .

You part of his legal team ?

Does this mean Tommy is in the shit .

You mean to say there is any other type of minister of the crown .

The TAB is one side of the story , but NZTR have made their own bed with the way they have managed distributions along with the model they have maintained for far too long . The one thing they have never done is manage for the future , they have managed for the day or in the CEO's cases , for as long as their contracts . We need someone to take our industry by the scruff of the neck and shake the fuck out of it , this will have the effect of dropping all the dross and allow us to see how bare the bones are and how we need to start restructuring . The biggest obstacle is the upper tier of industry participants , the ones who are doing alright in relation to the majority and have way too much sway in cahoots with NZTR . They won't want the their boats rocked . Until they open their eyes for good of the whole industry not to much will change .

I would like to know the breakdown of how much comes from enrollments , ATC and NZB contributions .

The interesting take out from the TAB's announcement was their acceptance that that there will be an 15Mil shortfall in distribution fro the season with no " We expect things to improve thru the second half of the season with these new initiatives that we are going to be rolling out to increase turnovers , hence we do expect the distribution deficit should not be as large as we are forecasting " . We are only 1 third of the way thru the season but already they seem to have an acceptance that the decline cannot be reigned back . So does that mean that NZTR should clearly start planning for a 12Mil shortfall , minimum , for the 23/24 season , and if that is their strategy then they should start implementing it before the end of the season . They have not projected any stakes past April 25th so clearly there is a demarcation line for them to start the pull back of stakes .

I think the Dykes is made up from a large lump of money from the Dykes family , as for the others you would get the same field if the Telegraph was 250k , Oaks 300k and the Levin Classic 200k-220k . I don't believe that there is any subterfuge going on , i just think they got caught out with the TAB shortfall and have no idea where to go . I also believe they shouldn't be under writing the stakes with reserves , they are going to need the reserves later , possibly to prop stakes when they really hit rock bottom . They should start slashing stakes now but they won't . Selfishly i hope they don't , i could be running in a couple of those races for the first time in my life , there is the self interest in racing , i would live with it if they did tho . The first big saving they could make is stopping the Millions funding , huge saving there alone .

Too late , they've tried that one .

People don't go to the track anymore , look at yesterday , actually a very good betting card at Trentham , you could have let a shotgun off in the public area and not hit any one . Levin 2 weeks ago , which used to be huge on course , worse than yesterday . It's all about betting , without it we're going to be in a worse position than ever , without increasing betting we're dead . 8.5 mil not available for stakes for the next 8 months , god knows what for the following season . More meetings , less horses just means we may as well turn off the light now and save the suffering .

I understand your argument but it is not the industries job to give a living to underachieving jockeys , there is plenty of jocks bludging on the back of a dearth of jockeys , up your game and you will get rides . Same with trainers . It's the same in any line of employment . I know it sounds tough but i have known a few jocks that have kept doing it even when they didn't want to but even 3/4 rides along with track work and J/O's and trials gave them a good living , better than emptying bed pans or stocking shelves . Same with some trainers i've known , never done anything else and too scared to try even tho they have never achieved any great results training .

It's an idea not a template , it's also not about getting higher stakes but trying to mitigate the damage , 14k minimum has to stay . The black type races need major reductions and premier day meetings need a substantial cut as well . 8.5mil reduction equates to 163k a week on average that needs to be cut , If we had access to any information regards costs and turnover profit etc for an " Industry " day then obviously we could be more certain . Yesterday is completely unsustainable , but we all said that when they topped up the black type races , but they knew better . I would be stunned if they got half of $8mil turnover yesterday . But there is so much supposition around how much racedays cost and how much we make or lose on specific races , we have to have better races with good stake for good horses to aspire to otherwise the whole thing is pointless and we may as well run equalizator meetings . As i keep saying the industry leaders , and i use that term loosely , need to get together with industry participants and work out what works and what is needed to turn the game around , out of small seeds mighty oaks can grow . But they seem immune as ever to bringing participants into the conversation .

I said it a few weeks ago that hopefully the 2 South African boys would force some to up their game , seems to be working , competition usually does .

The majority of average punters have a set spend for a week of betting , unless they are winning but as a rule most punters i know work on an affordable loss , so doesn't matter if there is 1/2/3 or 10 racedays they stop when the money is gone . I'm only talking reducing races by maybe 8 a week . As i said only an idea , we need a lot more . Some one might come up with something brilliant , who knows .

Here's something i don't get , next week we have Hastings Wed , nothing Thurs , Tauranga on Fri and 3 meetings on Saturday all with Saturday stakes , why do we need to run 3 meetings on a Saturday ? They are just diluting the available punting dollars , people aren't going to spend more they will just spread it out , but how many northern punters are going to bet on Invercargill , i don't bet on SI races as the riding is so poor , but many will just bypass it . It's bullshit programming , i simply do not understand it .

One way to keep stakes higher is to reduce racedays , we have too many days with 6/7/8 races with less than 10 runners , run 1 midweek a fortnight with 10-12 races or more if the horses are there , making sure we have full fields by open nom's , horses nom'd for the distance they want to race not rating then make fields up by picking lowest 14 rated horses then the next 14 go into the next race . Needs tweeking but something like that . Or just change the rating system and how horses are handicapped , set weights for lower rated races . Running fewer racedays with larger fields . No " Carnivals " , there shite now anyway , run Iconic days , once every 3/4 weeks in the NI , maybe every 5/6 for the SI . It means ripping up everything as we know it and rebuild it but something has to change and change big time , and that includes the way we are managed . Just ideas but that's what is needed , some will work some won't , some will morph together but if industry participants are included we could be amazed at what can be achieved .

GEO blocking guys , the saviour .

And in 2 sentences you list so many of our issues , and most if not all are simple solves and would be good business