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That was my point

Good luck, you would be better off putting a $10 all up or multi on your 3 selections, that way you get to keep a nice wad of cash if you win

I presume you'll be giving this good advice on the other channel

$17 winner

Classic, and I always wondered if you had a sense of humour

Here you go, judge for yourself, Xcellent was the last Boxing Day winner Winners of the New Zealand Derby[edit] Year Winner Jockey Trainer Owner Time 2018 Vin De Dance Jason Waddell Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman OTI Racing (Mgr: T Henderson), L Muollo & Kilted Taniwha Syndicate 2:28.44 2017 Gingernuts Opie Bosson Stephen Autridge & Jamie Richards Te Akau Gingernuts Syndicate 2:28.27 2016 Rangipo Vinnie Colgan Tony Pike John & Margaret Thompson 2:28.89 2015 Mongolian Khan Opie Bosson Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman Inner Mongolia Rider Horse Industry 2:28.40 2014 Puccini Michael Walker Peter & Jacob McKay Monovale Holdings Ltd 2:28.39 2013 Habibi Vinnie Colgan Donna & Dean Logan Mrs H J & P J Crofskey & Mrs P A McIntyre 2:27.58 2012 Silent Achiever James McDonald Roger James K J Hickman 2:33.55 2011 Jimmy Choux Jonathan Riddell John Bary Chouxmaani Investments Ltd. 2:38.35 2010 Military Move Michael Walker Shaune Ritchie Steven Lo 2:27.91 2009 Coniston Bluebird Scott Seamer Bede Murray Murray Livestock, J O'Brien, J & R Standford & J Wilson 2:31.04 2008 C'est La Guerre David Walker Kevin Myers K Barker et al. 2:33.47 2007 Redoute's Dancer Vinnie Colgan Tim Martin P. Silvestro 2:27.24 2006 Wahid Leith Innes Allan Sharrock Noel H. & Ron T. Stanley 2:27.42 2004 Xcellent Michael Coleman Michael Moroney G W Breingan et al. 2:32.01 2003 Cut the Cake Michael Coleman Michael Moroney N M Anderson/G W Breingan et al. 2:28.88 2002 St Reims Greg Childs Chris McNab Rob McAnulty et al. 2:28.57 2001 Leica Guv Scott Seamer Jeff McVean R A and Mrs R J Scarborough 2:28.98 2000 Hail Noel Harris Bruce Marsh A J Cunningham & R B Marsh 2:32.27 1999 Hades Vinnie Colgan Roger James Mrs F E & R A Dixon 2:27.57 1998 So Casual Damien Oliver Ross Taylor G C P Beadel et al. 2:24.80 1997 Zonda Vinnie Colgan Roger James Hundalee Derby Syndicate 2:31.58 1996 Great Command Darren Beadman Michael Moroney H J & J Chan, R R McAnulty & D Tsang 2:27.97 1995 Roysyn Vinnie Colgan Roger James Mrs B P & J B Harvey 2:30.10 1994 Look Who's Talking Grant Cooksley Nigel Tiley Unifaith Limited 2:28.18 1993 Popsy Lance O'Sullivan D & P O'Sullivan Barnaby & Co Ltd 2:27.24 1992 The Phantom Chance Robert Vance Colin Jillings W B Ballin 2:25.98 1991 Cavallieri Grant Cooksley Laurie Laxon L K Laxon, S Shew & F & Mrs Z Sing 2:29.18 1990 Surfers Paradise Lance O'Sullivan D & P O'Sullivan F Cheung, K Chong, G Fong & J D Smith 2:28.02 1989 Castletown Bruce Compton Patrick Busuttin P M Busuttin, B J McCahill & K P Morris 2:29.28 1988 The Gentry Greg Childs Ray & Kerry Verner L W Davis, H K Haub, P J Walker & Haunui Farm 2:27.49 1987 Satisfy Maurice Campbell N D Nicoloff N D & P H Nicoloff 2:35.41 1986 Tidal Light Grant Cooksley Jim Gibbs S A Taylor 2:28.63 1985 Bonecrusher Gary Stewart Frank Ritchie Peter J. Mitchell 2:29.47 1984 Jolly Jake Chris McNab Alan Jones I W Allan 2:27.39 1983 I'm Henry Robert Vance Colin Jillings A J & M M Bates 2:29.78 1982 Our Flight Maurice Campbell Errol Skelton J W Rusher 2:32.48 1981 Isle of Man Robert Vance Davina Waddell R F Langsford and D L Waddell 2:28.89 1980 Ring the Bell Nigel Tiley Neville Atkins E M Mackley and B P Wild 2:30.23 1979 Ruling Lad Garry Phillips Brian Deacon E N Baker 2:35.38 1978 Kaiser Alwin Tweedie Neville Atkins T J and Mrs Doole 2:29.42 1977 Uncle Remus Robert Vance Colin Jillings K F Clotworthy and Mrs G M Donaldson 2:29.51 1976 Silver Lad D Wyatt B Petley D and Mrs Nicholls and R R Peel-Walker 2:29.76 1975 Balmerino Maurice Campbell Brian Smith R K Stuart 2:31.21 1974 Mansingh 1973 Furys Order

In the same boat, so come on you harness folk, get tipping, or you'll have to go back to the other site................ that's right, you can't

Well one thing I can pick that you guys will all pick, is that Melody Belle is way under, from that outside but one draw. But Volpe Veloce must then be slightly over(10/3) from virtually the same alley. Won this last year relatively easily when drawing 7 of 10, albeit, I think there was some rain on the track

?? Now at $10

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12074623

Next you will be pricing Danny

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/racing/news/article.cfm?c_id=53&objectid=12183315 A wry smile The new stables The resident buglar Danny the pony Bonecrusher statue

Always were idiots DB, the internet now gives them an easy way to have a say, that never existed 15 years ago

Looking like it's between the 3 class horses of the field, but what do I know, how about the BOAY 'pros' price the field

He strikes me as the sort who would not know the difference between a weed(not that sort) and a plant, wouldn't let him loose in my garden

Why?

Might see you there one Boxing Day of NYD then Pete. I presume that would mean picnics and boot parties would also come back and that infield might actually look like an array of people enjoying themself. Nothing better to attract people, than to see it all happening

I think there were bar charts and more data, not just a statement. But you are probably right, after seeing some of the stuff in NZTR/RB Business plans....delusional Andrew Brown and Racing Ahead being the most so

I presume that is NZ data over more than a season Is that from NZTR/RB I'm sure I saw in one of their reports that 14 was optimal Will try and find it later on

I read some data somewhere, that said the optimum field size for highest turnover per runner , was 14. I think it was in an NZTR Annual report a while back Might have been a NZRB one

Another aspect related to punters D4 New Plymouth, D6 Rotorua, yet quite a few fields are decimated by scratchings, leaving 6 and 7 horse fields which punters may find unattractive and affects the clubs betting on the day Surely you should only be able to scratch a horse for vet reasons or unsuitable change in track conditions

Is this why we see stayers coming from the UK, and going directly into staying races in Aus, like the Melbourne Cup and other races. All the conditioning work is done on the training track

What about the regularly occurring situation of running a stayer fresh up in a 1200m sprint, to improve fitness I presume, knowing it could never win, because it simply does not have the basic speed

It's a bit vague isn't it Unless there is something else more definitive within the rules of racing

636 (1) A person: (a) shall not run a horse, or cause or permit a horse to be run, other than on its merits; (b) being the Rider of a horse in a Race, must take all reasonable and permissible measures throughout the Race to ensure that his horse is given full opportunity to win the Race or to obtain the best possible finishing place;