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Some good stuff Gen(except for the last sentence), and thanks for putting a bit more meat on the bone as far as BGP is concerned. That was one of the purposes in starting this thread. The sarcasm is misplaced though. BOAY was set up so everyone could express an opinion, without fear of censorship, retaliation or abuse

It was only $20 Pete, that significant band looks like it may stay off shore

$20 win bet on the Tarzino that it is no worse than a D5

Just looking at the forecast, looks like the rain will hold off enough to leave them with a dead track, which would be great to see the first G1 of the season run on reasonable footing

Anything that is improved on disgRace Cafe, you only have one person to thank for it......The Chief Competition is an amazing thing, otherwise it would have been just business as usual, with the normal inequitable, toxic and arrogant demeanour. Only problem, they have gone from a dominant market leader with only one minor competitor, to a site that will struggle to retain market leadership. Hard lesson to learn, pride, in this case arrogance, comes before a fall

If the guy has all this money to splash around, a shame he doesn't first meet his substantial prior commitments There is a name for people like that

Up to you how you post, people draw their own conclusions, and in your case, you are clearly a very well read well articulated gentleman, although I must say, with a definite touch of pragmatism, that challenges peoples own thought process. My comments relate to the relative posting styles of the 2 site owners, and how that affects how the 2 sites are viewed. The fact this site exists, is proof of the pudding

Sorry, should read Foxton track. The point is pretty obvious, it's about the method of addressing issues. The Chief has taken the articulated, respectful approach. It may not get anywhere, but it is still the only approach likely to get anywhere

This site will become the Premier Racing site Current issues with the quality of track surfaces causing mayhem with programming. The owner of this site, pens and posts an open correspondence, emailed to the concerned parties asking for 5 questions to be answered. All very civil and respectful The owner of the dark side, in response to the Otaki track, posts this negative and juvenile tirade "How long would it take them to stuff it up too... nobody held accountable anywhere... a joke... no wonder racing is Donald Ducked!!!!!"

"NZTR is seeking entries from a variety of content providers and would welcome examples of new and innovative methods of storytelling and audience engagement." You look at the above statement, and you can't help but think it was written with BGP in mind Good on them for the initiative they have shown in bringing young people to racing, but a media award for starting up a social media punters club??

Not for long Better let the Chief know he is putting in an entry next year

I thought they were basically a social media based punters club Even the name suggests that Real media like Brian de Lore who was the catalyst in the whole Messara thing getting off the ground must be peeved

Yep, definite spin strategy

Wrong channel

Be patient Saying it could open up a can of worms for the sayer

The concern is about the dark storm clouds that are starting to appear on the horizon. FFS don't start talking about Simon, or you will have the copy and pasters joining in from the dark side While beating the drum about politicians throwing taxpayers' money about, it is worth noting that part of the Government's coalition agreement made with NZ First included paving the racetracks so the horses don't get their hoofs muddy. The talk is this work will be supported by $30 million of taxpayers' cash. Part of the reasoning is that horse racing employs a lot of people and race meetings are called off if the track is too wet; the flaw in this argument is that the horse racing industry is not just race day. The $30 million would fund the charity Riding for the Disabled forever but, of course, it lacks the glamour of thoroughbred racing. The $30 million could create more paediatric beds in every health board or provide a new pair of winter shoes for every child living in a low-income household — instead it will be used to lay down synthetic tracks so that horse races won't be cancelled when it rains. If I was a gambler, I'd put my money on the future of children as a better bet than a rainy day at the racetrack.

But their organisation that is being made a monkey of, so their job to find out WTF is going on

Was really referring to the highlighted part about racing, at the end of the article

Terry Sarten: Politicians are going places ... at our expense 26 Aug, 2018 2:05pm 3 minutes to read Simon Bridges - spend first, count the cost later. By: Terry Sarten What is it with our politicians? The Leader of the Opposition – I had to Google to recall his name — Simon Bridges spent $113,973 on travel between April to June. This is a lot of taxpayer's money. The cost was one thing, but the fact that he was surprised when the total was tallied shows how MPs are out of touch with the real world. These are the same politicians who often demand the public sector manage its budgets carefully. Most organisations, including government departments, insists business travel is within a set budget and needs to be approved before it is booked. There are forms to be filled, boxes to be ticked, a reasoned case given for travel to ABC for the purposes of XYZ. A senior manager then decides whether this is an effective use of the budget or not. As is noted in the Simon Bridges travel costs, there is no budget, there is no approval mechanism and it is only totalled after it has already been spent. In Parliament's case this is taxpayer-funded. Why are they allowed to spend so much and add it up afterwards? Many politicians talk about the need for people — and the country — to live within our means, but ignore their own advice when it comes to travel expenses. There should, like most organisations, be a capped budget for travel. Spend it and its gone — no more limos across the hinterland, no more trips to overseas conferences. Talk to people using video conferencing or simply read the conference papers. Do the sums — it is cheaper to travel a day earlier and get a good night's sleep in a hotel than it is to fly First Class. It is interesting the current Government has decided to end bonus payments to state service chief executives. It has always been a puzzle why incentives in the form of bonuses seem to be needed for chief executives and senior staff when, for some reason, they do not work for those on lower salaries. If giving workers more money for being productive really worked, then it would apply to everyone from the janitor and the secretaries up to the chief executive. In business there has always been a suspicion paying a chief executive a bonus for cutting costs often means they will get one if they simply sack half the staff. While beating the drum about politicians throwing taxpayers' money about, it is worth noting that part of the Government's coalition agreement made with NZ First included paving the racetracks so the horses don't get their hoofs muddy. The talk is this work will be supported by $30 million of taxpayers' cash. Part of the reasoning is that horse racing employs a lot of people and race meetings are called off if the track is too wet; the flaw in this argument is that the horse racing industry is not just race day. The $30 million would fund the charity Riding for the Disabled forever but, of course, it lacks the glamour of thoroughbred racing. The $30 million could create more paediatric beds in every health board or provide a new pair of winter shoes for every child living in a low-income household — instead it will be used to lay down synthetic tracks so that horse races won't be cancelled when it rains. If I was a gambler, I'd put my money on the future of children as a better bet than a rainy day at the racetrack. *Terry Sarten (aka Tel) is a writer, musician and social worker — feedback: tgs@inspire.net.nz

I'm not familiar with the BGP modus operandi, so can someone explain what they did that was so outstanding, that they got the Media award

You have to admit, the smile is natural and infectious, nothing posed here

2018 New Zealand Thoroughbred Horse of the Year Awards details 26 August 2018, 10:49 p.m. Twenty-five awards were presented at the 2018 New Zealand Thoroughbred Horse of the Year Awards dinner in Auckland on Sunday night. Horse of the Year: Bonneval (40 votes) Also: Avantage (15), Kawi (3), Savvy Coup (2), Vin De Dance (1). NZTR Award for Outstanding Contribution to Racing: Nelson Schick. Champion Two-Year-old: Avantage (60). Other finalists: Sword Of Osman (1), Melt, Spanish Whisper. Champion Three-Year-Old – sponsored by FastTrack Insurance: Savvy Coup (28). Other finalists: Vin De Dance (20), Dijon Bleu (5), Embellish (4), Age Of Fire (1), Scott Base (1). Champion Sprinter-Miler (up to 1600m): Kawi (48). Other finalists: Close Up (7), Gingernuts (3), Start Wondering (3). Champion Middle Distance Horse (1601m-2200m): Bonneval (58). Other finalists: Lizzie L’Amour (3), Jon Snow, Saint Emilion. Champion Stayer (2201m +): Charles Road (27). Other finalists: Ladies First (24), Zacada (6), Five To Midnight (2). Champion Jumper: Wise Men Say (52). Other finalists: Monarch Chimes (5), Upper Cut (4), Zedeedudadeeko. Trainer of the Year – sponsored by Dunstan: Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman (61). Other finalist: Stephen Autridge & Jamie Richards. Jockey of the Year: Sam Collett (42). Other finalists: Opie Bosson (12), Johnathan Parkes (3), Chris Johnson (1). Jumps Jockey of the Year: Isaac Lupton (39). Other finalists: Aaron Kuru (22), Will Gordon (1), Shaun Phelan, Charlie Studd. Owner of the Year – sponsored by New Zealand Racing Board: JML Bloodstock (22). Other finalists: Archer Equine Investments (20), Emma Evans (7), Bromley Bloodstock (4), Kevin Hickman (2), Sir Peter Vela (2), Kamada Racing Partnership. New Zealand Strapper of the Year – sponsored by Chris Waller: Jane Davidson (employed by Mike Breslin). Other finalists: Garry Barlow, Renee Larkins. NZTR Award for Contribution to Media, Digital & Content: Boys Get Paid. Other finalists: Brian de Lore, Aidan Rodley, Maryanne Twentyman & Greg O’Connor. Breeder of the Year: Waikato Stud & Garry Chittick (breeders of Savvy Coup, Embellish, Hasahalo & Ocean Emperor). Other finalists: Willie & Karen Calder, Christopher Grace, Nearco Stud. Broodmare of the Year: Bagalollies (dam of Werther, Gobstopper & Milseain). Other finalists: Stylish Bel, Zalika. Trainers’ Premiership: Murray Baker & Andrew Forsman. Jockeys’ Premiership: Sam Collett. Apprentice Jockeys’ Premiership: Sam Weatherley. Owners’ Premiership: Sir Peter Vela. Newcomer to Training – sponsored by gavelhouse.com: Andrew Carston. Grosvenor Award (stallion earnings in NZ): Savabeel. Dewar Stallion Trophy (stallion earnings in New Zealand and Australia): Savabeel. Centaine Award: (stallion earnings worldwide): Savabeel. New Zealand Bloodstock Filly of the Year: Dijon Bleu.

You might be talking at cross purposes here Hunter Mk2 got a spray because he had a dig at someone running a comp on BOAY All those other people got banned from RC

The Communication Principles provide that a digital communication should not: 1. disclose sensitive personal facts about an individual; 2. be threatening, intimidating, or menacing; 3. be grossly offensive to a reasonable person in the position of the affected individual; 4. be indecent or obscene; 5. be used to harass an individual; 6. make a false allegation; 7. contain a matter that is published in breach of confidence; 8. incite or encourage anyone to send a message to an individual for the purpose of causing harm to the individual; 9. incite or encourage an individual to commit suicide; or 10. denigrate an individual by reason of his or her colour, race, ethnic or national origins, religion, gender, sexual orientation or disability.

Don't be a hypocrite Mk2 I've seen many of your posts on RC in the past and Racechat, and they are quite often, abusive and/or threatening. Live by the sword, die by the sword If you feel any post is abusive or threatening towards you, report it and the Chief will adjudicate. If you don't like his ruling, you can lay a complaint with the body that administers the Harmful Digital Communications Act(can't recall who it is, someone will post)