All The Aces

Whatever Noodles we agree to disagree. For your sake I hope that your South island trainers start to support the Guineas more. They hardly seem interested in recent years. Without the North Island horses coming down they wouldn't be G1s for long.

Let's face it what difference would it make to the public at Riccarton if the Guineas where raced elsewhere. They couldn't give a damn. It's more the piss up and the social occasion for them. The biggest turnover race every year is the Cup itself. This season the NZ TAB did $799k on the Cup. Anyway Noodles, keep crying for tradition and keeping things the same. By keeping everything the same is why the industry has gone nowhere. If you want different results you have to try different approaches. What's that saying "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result." I just believe that both Guineas races have reached a stage where they would be more successful in the North.

Which is a different matter altogether. Both the Derby and the Oaks get better numbers than the Guineas and have a far greater turnover.

Certainly not subjective. This season both the Derby and the Oaks had capacity fields. NZ TAB turnover on the 2000 Guineas was $394K. Couldn't locate the figure for the 1000 Guineas. NZ Derby the NZ TAB did $851k and the NZ Oaks $572k Both significantly better.

And the Riccarton track is perfect? Are they still watering the outside to stop horses going wide in the winter? BTW I only added sending the two races South as an afterthought. If you don't want them so be it. As to the NZ Derby and NZ Oaks, well obviously they have gone pretty well since coming North. I suggest the Guineas would be the same.

Pure speculation on your part Noods and incorrect. It's funny, everyone talks about rationalization from number of tracks to racing programmes and yet when something is suggested, those affected (even though calling for change), vigorously then defend their patch and yell no way!! I thought about it, provided figures in both horse numbers and neither race is strongly supported by the South (and let's face it the South haven't won either race since 2011 either). I even went as far as suggesting where both races looked best placed, at Ellerslie on Boxing day and New Years Day replacing the two 3yo races that currently sit there. Perhaps those two races, one listed and the other a G2 could go South.

Just further evidence of your Kim Un Jong traits. Huey had got the better of you. How will he be executed?

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And you bet on Australian racing.....When entering Australia I was asked if I had any criminal convictions. I replied that I didn't know it was still a requirement.

And I suppose that you also believe in the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy that setting a horse for a punt doesn't happen anywhere else. ?

Well it's definitely not for yours Kimmy.

Not if you are getting it ready for a punt.

Gee that first up punt and aim to beat Pitty to train a winner first could all go up in smoke if it turns out to be field shy.

Ok for one month Chief bearing in mind no stakes will have been paid out since March. It is the big picture we need to be advised of. "What the stakes for next season will be."

How so Kim? I stated that Australian racing receives support from Government (which it does) and that Chris Waller has said the NZ Government should do more for NZ racing. Both are statements are factual.

Morning Kim Some of us have work to do. Anyway I thought you had left for North Korea.

The other Kim has a train also. Speculation over his successor should be over, If indeed he has passed. Do you need a lift to the airport?

An owner Noodlum but without any connection to Ellerslie, in fact I live over 400k away from Ellerslie. However with talk of bringing the two races North I looked at where they would fit in best and those two days, Boxing Day and New Years Day with the two G1 Guineas replacing the two 3yo races on the same date would fit nicely, in my opinion, if they were to come North permanently.

Depends on how much longer they will hold jumping races in the South. Freda will tell you they are desperately holding on at present to have jumping races down there and you will no doubt realise that there no jumping races in the South this year.

Unlike yourself who arrogantly believes he knows everything on all subjects, I know that Chris Waller is a knowledgeable humble man and have heard him speak on the subject a few times now, have read articles also quoting him on the subject and was in small group at the sales when it was also discussed with Chris. So yes I believe he has a very grasp of the situation. As I said, Chris is a knowledgeable humble man, and certainly the opposite of you Mardigras….the Kim Jong Un of the keyboard full of self importance and arrogance.....again I know which one I would rather listen to. Have a nice day.

Always suspected that you never know what day of the week it is Curious. Shutting down NZ racing for over a year. You and your brother make me ?

Again, Waller....you.... no contest. You wouldn't even run a poor second.

There has been plenty of talk of moving them North to be fair Huey. The North provide by far the number of horses that race in both Guineas in sheer volume and the cost of transport getting those numbers down to Riccarton. Far fewer horses would need to transported also meaning savings to more owners.

And the NZ Government get nothing. Stick to your trains. I would rather listen to and take note of what Chris Waller has had to say re this subject in the last few years than read your thoughts on the subject. He has an entirely different view to you.

Like they do in Australia you mean Mardi. Financial Government support has been going on over there for some years now. One of the reasons racing is doing better across the ditch.