All The Aces

Morning Kim Some of us have work to do. Anyway I thought you had left for North Korea.

The other Kim has a train also. Speculation over his successor should be over, If indeed he has passed. Do you need a lift to the airport?

An owner Noodlum but without any connection to Ellerslie, in fact I live over 400k away from Ellerslie. However with talk of bringing the two races North I looked at where they would fit in best and those two days, Boxing Day and New Years Day with the two G1 Guineas replacing the two 3yo races on the same date would fit nicely, in my opinion, if they were to come North permanently.

Depends on how much longer they will hold jumping races in the South. Freda will tell you they are desperately holding on at present to have jumping races down there and you will no doubt realise that there no jumping races in the South this year.

Unlike yourself who arrogantly believes he knows everything on all subjects, I know that Chris Waller is a knowledgeable humble man and have heard him speak on the subject a few times now, have read articles also quoting him on the subject and was in small group at the sales when it was also discussed with Chris. So yes I believe he has a very grasp of the situation. As I said, Chris is a knowledgeable humble man, and certainly the opposite of you Mardigras….the Kim Jong Un of the keyboard full of self importance and arrogance.....again I know which one I would rather listen to. Have a nice day.

Always suspected that you never know what day of the week it is Curious. Shutting down NZ racing for over a year. You and your brother make me ?

Again, Waller....you.... no contest. You wouldn't even run a poor second.

There has been plenty of talk of moving them North to be fair Huey. The North provide by far the number of horses that race in both Guineas in sheer volume and the cost of transport getting those numbers down to Riccarton. Far fewer horses would need to transported also meaning savings to more owners.

And the NZ Government get nothing. Stick to your trains. I would rather listen to and take note of what Chris Waller has had to say re this subject in the last few years than read your thoughts on the subject. He has an entirely different view to you.

Like they do in Australia you mean Mardi. Financial Government support has been going on over there for some years now. One of the reasons racing is doing better across the ditch.

Bring both Guineas north for good and race them both at Ellerslie, one on Boxing Day and the other on New Years Day. The G1 1000 Guineas to be run on Boxing Day in place of the Listed Uncle Remus Stakes and the G1 2000 Guineas in place of the G2 Auckland Guineas. That's if Foxton hasn't secured them. ?

Not sure your opinion really counts Mardi. You don't have any horses racing here and your betting is on Australian and British racing. The shutting down of NZ racing for some 16 months or so wouldn't make any difference to you at all.

I note that a couple of idiots on the other site think racing should shut down for the 20/21 season and start up 1 August 2021 which in effect would be a shut down of some 16 months seeing racing stopped in March. The majority of participants would be doing something else or would have gone overseas by then and business's closely associated with the industry gone. Brilliant thinking.

As the Irishman said.....To be sure to be sure. Sorry posted under the wrong thread initially Freda. Perhaps you can throw some light about the talk of $1.75 million owed to NZTR being banded about in respect to nom and acceptance fees with a good proportion of that owed by trainers.

The only modelling you should be allowed around Mardigras is a train set. Australia seem to have got is pretty well right. Their C-19 statistics pretty much mirror ours and they haven't had stringent economic devastating level 4 lockdown that NZ has been subjected to. You will note that racing has continued over there bar Tasmania and most business's have been open as well as schools. Thousands of NZ business's have been unable to open under the government's harsh directives. Most after five weeks of being unable to trade will still be locked out for at least another two which is in fact Level 3.9. We should be straight down to Level 2 on Monday at 11:59pm. The full impact of this damage to the NZ economy won't be seen for a wee while, but it will be significant and many, many small business's won't be back trading with unemployment is forecast to be around 11-13%.

24 April 2020 NZTR CIRCULAR 2019/20 – No.24 NZTR DIRECTIVE – PROTOCOLS FOR TRAINING, TRIALLING AND RACING UNDER COVID-19 ALERT LEVEL 3 Under Alert Level 3 all businesses that are permitted to resume operations need to have a COVID-19 safety plan that sets out how they’ll operate safely. NZTR has confirmed with the government that Clubs, Trainers, and training centres can undertake business activities (including importantly racing, training and trialling) under Alert Level 3. The attached Directive has been sent to WorkSafe for endorsement of the protocols. NZTR will advise of any updates that result of the WorkSafe endorsement process. The Directive that accompanies this NZTR Circular details measures that Clubs, Trainers and their staff must adhere to and form the minimum measures of a workplace health and safety plan in relation to COVID-19. Issued as a Directive, the protocols must be adhered to under the Rules of Racing. The Directive places a requirement that clubs or Trainers together with their respective staff or racing officials must develop a COVID-19 Control Plan in place to protect all individuals at the workplace or sites where training and racing is conducted. Employers should prepare and implement their site plans and processes with worker engagement (including worker H&S representation) and participation to ensure that agreed measures are well communicated and embedded in practice. The Directive has been issued in consultation with the New Zealand Jockeys’ Association, the New Zealand Trainers’ Association, a Racing Club Advisory Group, and the NZ Racecourse Managers Association. Clubs, Jockeys, Trainers and staff are expected to work positively and cooperatively to ensure: • the effective implementation of these COVID-19 protocols, and • that the health and safety of workers and other people aren’t put at risk from changes that are made to work arrangements because of this pandemic. The protocols contain requirements that include essential materials that Clubs and Trainers may not currently have to hand. Assistance with the more substantive of these is provided in the Appendix below. Martin Burns GM – Welfare & Sustainability Appendix: Essential materials • NZTR is purchasing 12 non-touch thermometers which will be assigned 3 to each of: North; CD; Upper South & Lower South, to be carried by Stipendiary Stewards to bring to each race or trial meeting. If clubs or trainers wish to purchase their own thermometer, this link indicates a suitable product that is available for delivery. • NZTR will order signage which Stipendiary Stewards can bring to meetings, being: 3x “COVID-19 Entry Screening Point” and a two each of “Temporary Jockey Room” and “Temporary Trainers and Strappers Room”. • To ensure that a trainer or owner colours are not worn by more than one rider on a raceday, NZTR will supply 10 additional plain Colours and caps which Stipendiary Stewards can bring to meetings and provide if needed. • Whilst clubs and trainers are free to choose supplier and suitable product, if this is proving difficult, NZTR has identified a supplier (https://www.advanceclean.co.nz/) of disinfectant and hand sanitiser and other products. Clubs (or trainers) may open an account and contact Advance Clean to order and get the products shipped (Account opening form attached). It is recommended that orders are placed as soon as possible, as due to high demand, there may be some delays in fulfilling orders. ▪ Recommended products are (prices are ex-GST): • Germshield While expensive compared with standard disinfectant, this leaves a 24hour residue that organisms can’t survive on (product link). • Bio-Kleen A standard disinfectant (product link). • Hand and Surface Sanitiser (product link). Containers or hand pumps would have bought separately (e.g. product link). ▪ Contact for opening accounts and placing orders with Advance Clean: • For trainers, it will be important that surface disinfectants are used won’t rot or corrode reins and other gear. While there are likely other suitable products, below are two options: ▪ Shoof – Strike 400 (product link) ▪ F10 (product link)

That's so dumb a statement that you will ever see that your opinion is not even worthy of a reply. Do you ever leave your lounge?

Last week the Salvation Army dished out 5895 food parcels, a 346% rise on the week before lockdown. In the last month job seeker numbers have risen by 20% and now stands at 174,630 as at 17 April. Expect that to climb significantly.

As at yesterday 1451 cases and 16 deaths which works out as: A case fatality ratio of just over 1% 301 infections per million people 3 deaths per million That places us 77th place in the world for highest infection rate out of the 211 countries being tracked by data website Worldometer. We are slightly below the world average of 337 infections per million. As for deaths we are ranked alongside China, Australia, Lebanon, Qatar and a few others.

Not until there is sign-off by DIA, MPI, MBIE and Worksafe. There can be no return to training, trialing or racing until NZTR get sign-off from the government.

With Opie looking to head over with Emily to Australia who will be the likely number one rider for them in NZ?

No scheduled meetings at Ruakaka, Avondale, Rotorua and Trentham although Avondale is bracketed as an alternative venue with Counties.

You will note the 2000 Guineas will be at Te Rapa and the 1000 Guineas will be at Ellerslie