Gammalite

Exactly my argument !! thank you Horace. Currently this thread about Opie cheating via number, and Currently horses being 'Harmed' with welts and drawing Blood ?you said with severity and strength. HOW is a horse with a 'Strong' jockey giving it 5 'Welts' (and all the pain that goes with it apparently), before the 100m mark, NOT any worse off than a horse with the Opie whip strikes.? answer/ It's not any better off at All. ............But the jockey is Not called a Cheat lol....... silliness prevails.

Well a food allergy or an insect bite causes welts as well. You could call it injury if you want, but more of a skin reaction. I remember Stewards often inspecting horses rumps to ascertain whether any 'welts' or ('Blood?, which Horace said he has seen , would be barbaric, but myself never seen that) was present. To their credit , and yours to , They are ALWAYS concerned for Horse welfare. Surely , surely, surely the whip supplied is Padded and designed to not cause Any harm to the animal. (like a Boxer wears Padded gloves and can smack you in the face) a horse bit tougher than a boxer. You and Horace think every horse in Pain and harm ?? THAT is BAD , and I would fully agree only solution is throw it away if that was the case. (No good limiting use as is current Horace) no matter how you spell it out. My protest is about this Stupid number the Rules bandy about. . Why is a Horse not harmed or in pain at the 100m mark ? ?? Same for all horses and jockeys. not by number.

Such a hypocritical response Horace. So carry on about the Pain, Welts, thrashing BUT approve Limited Whip. lol..... at least Thomass wants to ban it. OK for a Jockey to whack 5 times ? Doesn't that leave Welts ? Of course it can. Your arguement says LIMITED use doesn't harm the horse, but 'The Opie ride' for example did ? People and Jockeys aren't Monsters! welfare of horses is paramount to those in the racing industry. Whips have been inspected for decades. All clear wasn't given Until a steward went on the track and Literally felt up and down the drivers whip in case something not legal in use. The padded whips these days are designed in a way to be not as harsh as previous models. A horse is a pretty tough animal Horace. they CANNOT differentiate between 5 strikes or 10. Isn't one strike on your dog or child examples too much? Are you fighting for Horse Welfare or Not? you say they're in pain . this whole arguement is a pain. but limited use ok?. hypocrisy.

true, got to say puts a lot of horses on the track, and unlike Webberley and some others ,no Positives .!!!! Also gets a lot of 'average Joe ' owners to the track with low training fees, etc. so that is Good.

Hope so Hunter !!! imagine giving the driving instructions out to 8 people.? what a nightmare. uses a lot of junior drivers. Hope they get it right ? lol..... plans a , b and c lol.....

Yeah I know. Tim is a doing a great job. But i love my Qld idol. she is doing us proud. Is she available for a cuddle ? sorry Tim , I'm not gay .lol.......... Nat has a LOT of experience.

Well that sucks . bloody Williams draws 1 and costs me 50 pesos . give him a slap Nat ! when back at the stalls hahahahahaa

Just a "FLASH in The Pan" ? hahahaha oh dear.

No I don't know this bloke. one of the few who could foot it with Allstars with Christen Me. What are you saying Flash.? is Cran all good ? I did notice Christen Me ended up with Ross Wolfenden at Delaware USA and won a few. Is very sad Ross and Dexter chose to make careers in the states instead of NZ. the industry there would of been GREAT with them staying in / or returning to NZ. a real shame.

Oh come on! don't support this mug. he hates the Allstars for some reason, probably a losing bet once. You are near best judge here, and although it pains me to say, yes Amazing Dream possibly/probably wins if doesn't hand up to Beyond Words , You can't say her chances were diminished by trailing the leader. She did end up 3 back the fence in Auckland Cup handing up and won ok. It Wasn't Race Fixing. race fixing usually involves a betting plunge anyway ??? something HaveaGo/Forbs conveniently FORGETS ???

That was so stupid. only six in it and they have a second line ??? didn't the bloke want them to see the barrier and learn something that started behind the 1 Draw ??? why bother. Yes , that looked a La Rosa education trial Only. Don't know why he/ she didn't pull out to run past them in the straight though. pretty stupid for her education. La Rosa purchased for 100,000 . I'd be letting her rip in a trial (the run home) and gain confidence.

Artists at work , during their break. worth more than any silly Picasso.

What a comeback . Are you feeling the TRUE FANTASY of race 7 today? What dreams are made of !!!!! Young champion Mark might try and Win an EMMY for his drive though??? Quinella time ?

Did ya see my dream girl go forbs? what an amazing horseperson she is . $8 !!!!! why aren't you getting rich? everyone knows she outdrives Williams all the time. Was just talking about it on another thread here this week. Hey theres' been plenty of Telfer stable multiples in races at Auckland doing a better job than this race. Tune in on Friday and see some more. I'm with Karrots , and EVERYONE had their chance in this race at Addington. Kisses from me to Nat xxxxxx

No. CAPTN ME raced green in the death and ran 3rd of the 5 starters. A quiet start for Nathan in the training ranks. Better news for all the Ant's fans. Now 2nd leading Trainer in Oz! (along with training partner Sonya Smith) Anthony Butt and Sonya Smith with 35 wins from 90 starts through the first 1/4 of the season (since Jan 1 ) The idiot ahead of them on the National Trainers, is a fake leader with No metro wins and gets his wins by literally 'Stacking ' 4 races on every Tasmanian race day with 6-8 runners. (The low class or standing start events) No chance of a feature race win for Ben Yole as too busy with this piss poor 'stacking tactic 'in the minor races. Ben Yole = 57 wins from 700 starters since Jan 1.

Shit I wish !! The great Gammalite ONLY with 2 Interdominion titles. Nat with 5. what a guts! lol....

The current Interdominion Champion driver. (who also nearly won 6 of them with the same Horse ! , shame about the 2 seconds lol.....)

No Pizza available in Waimate ?

The airways are about to open between Oz and NZ again very soon Ranga. no need to ship. Please send the plane load of 501's to Alice Springs. (drop Nat off in Brissy on way past, if shes on) Which town would you like this Air New Zealand section 501 flight (with Nicholas Cage on) sent to? , we have ready to go ?

18,000 odd evacuated. weather has gone crazy NSW . dam near full inland from Sydney. Is at full release. terrible times for 1000's of folk today. That is crazy with the air pollution? Waimate Timaru Oamaru all on the Pacific coast so how does the Sea -air not blow it all away. ? Does everyone have those wood burning pot-bellies going ? Years ago in Hobart Tas (with it's cool crisp clean air) they BANNED burning wood altogeather , as cold there 10 months of the year, so with 1000's of fireplaces burning , the air quality and pollution got terrible. Now they have power driven heaters sitting in all those old house fireplaces through Hobart.

Agreed. you get no 'chances' Oz. refuse or a poor score-up = Straight out of draw next 2 starts. Horrid place to start from too. virtually no chance. you'll see Friday Gammalite 'on the money like Brodster' and Sam will have La Rosa pinging away beautifully. Maybe they should chuck a Shadow Roll on ? like the great Noodlum wore. give her something to think about.

Wonder what gives it the poor air? I raced at Arawa Park Rotorua once and apart from racing on grass being the roughest experience. (Try riding a bicycle across a paddock and see what I mean, but try to get up over 25mph) the sulphur in the air wasn't that great an experience either. The COOL CRISP air of the South Island must be pure like Tasmania ? we are lush and green like NZ just now, as has been raining for a week Qld, and even worse in NSW places , they are getting washed away. worst in 60 years in some parts. Homes are floating down the rivers ! poor buggers.

Don't agree. If driver Sam plants her head on the gate early in score up that gives the horse something to concentrate on. There's no horses inside her to distract in the run-up to the barrier. Once moving forward is unlikely to 'Jump out of gear" and cause the carnage you say to second row. Her problem was actually going forward Early In the score-up, so 1 DRAW, gives her a chance to lead up to the barrier instead of refusing to follow and shying away from the other runners, if drawn elsewhere.

I don't think so Flash. It's a brilliant move from the young man NP, to the Victorian Landscape. much more opportunity for winners than chasing Cullen's around (in blistering times) at Addington and that. Lots of races and not going as quick flattening the horses, so he should do very well. And didn't leave Chrissie in the lurch. as Cran is still there and made a sound return Training already. All seems very Logical.

Can't Help Noodles? What did you want her to draw? 1 is always the best. She could lead the Cullen runners, or trail them. Or if 'Twist' hands up to 'Dream' she does end up 3 back fence , so you could be right, and become blocked. as far as scoring up manners. yes very lucky to still be in the draw ,after those previous misdemeanours. needs a gear adjustment or 2 to keep focus probably. Hope she scores up well and gives em a run for it anyway 1 232028 La Rosa 3 f R59 1 Ft Mark Jones 2 111211 Bettor Twist 3 f R78 2 Ft Hayden Cullen 3 4X2156 Angel Of Montana 3 f R51 3 Ft Stephen Anderson 4 21151 Better's Tart 3 f R61 4 Ft Brent White 5 227X94 Manhattan 3 f MR48 5 Ft Bob Butt 6 11 Dream On Me 3 f R57 6 Ft Hayden Cullen