Gammalite

Do you remember when the 'elephant' juice turned up from USA? Very much in the thoroughbred world but not exclusively. It's A tranquilizer used to steady circus elephants and the like, but in 'Small' doses could be used as a stimulant in horses. (1000 times stronger than its relative substance morphine) Alas many horses were subject to some 'frightening' and 'lethal 'experiences with it. Thank the Gods that testing caught up with stuff like this !!! Here's a use example quote below.............. In the 1987 Perth Cup Connell’s Rocket Racer won by nine lengths, charged past the line and couldn’t be pulled up. When the horse and jockey eventually returned to the mounting yard, he was too ill to be swabbed, collapsed and died a month later after having only one more start. It was assumed that the horse had been injected with etorphine or ‘elephant juice’ which was a popular, but illegal doping substance being used with horses at the time.

I think Galah is saying the RIU presence , and more accurate testing has made the 'Doping' occurrences way less frequent. a good thing. (should do pre-race bloods like QLD does too) No good worrying about 'milkshakes' from last century like Newmarket. Thats a galaxy away now as you say. All horses racing are given performance enhancers (legal ones) in the form of feed ,IV, Drench etc additives, supplements , vitamins , whatever it takes to keep your horse feeling great and therefore race great. You'd be lucky to even qualify if relying on oats and hay to get you there. Sometimes overdosing of treatments is going to happen , sometimes internal staff error (Waller had an 'Ice' +ve one year from a horse , lol.....) very, very few would risk a +ve by 'deliberate' administration of an illegal substance. RIU has cleaned up the industry, GOOD testing has cleaned it up too. Even the AUS 'super stable' caught out in 2016 and Belinda McCarthy got the 'Year' out and $5000 fine. Just keep testing!!. catch the crooks. scare them off.

Some more drivers looking for some winners at Auckland you reckon Karrots? Without Blair Orange , Mark and Nat , there are plenty of top drives up for grabs. here's some for these boys if you want. LUDWIG Kristofferson R1 , Krug R7 well ludwig a nice German name gets the european runners BASIL Superbass R2 , Artisan R4 'super bas sil ' is a bit of an artisan , (skilled craft (WORD) worker) WHIPLASH SMILE Kimkar Dash R1 , American Dealer R7 bit of a dashing , wheeler dealer is Whippy ELJAY BD Joe R7 , Jay Cee R9 L J sounds like he needs a B D and a J C. TAUPIRI WONDER Lynton Creek R2 , Kings Landing R9 Taupiri could be a great place as could these 2 locations.

You led the field a merry dance last time for victory, so nominated for Roman are Dance till Dawn R4 and Dance Time R8

With Roman missing in action after taking Round 1 last month , ROUND 2 will see a new Champion Friday night in the BOAY Cup at Alexandra Park. 2 Horses have been nominated to this week's Posters to give them something to cheer in the BIG Group races this week in Auckland. 3 points for the Win, 2 points for second, or 1 point for 3rd. (the most you can get is 6 Points if both your horses win) nominations and race No's are : KARROTS Darling Me R5 , Spirit of St Louis R8 The sweet Lou's to keep Karrots in good spirits. HUNTERthepunter BetterBeBetter R3, Better Twist R5 Hunter puts a good twist on things and makes them better. BRODIE Kaching Kaching R4 , Casino Action R6 'On the Money' Brodster might need to hit casino to actually get some ? NEWMARKET Hot and Treacherous R7 , Warloch R8 ready to Scrap it out on most topics CHIEF The Blue Beat R3 , Mercury Rising R6 Policing can make you Hot under the collar and get an elevated temperature GAMMALITE Classy Operator R6 Kango R8 classy Kangaroo in QLD DAVIS Mailman R2 , Bolt for Brilliance R9 posts all the news and has some brilliant posts MIKEY NZ Enjoy Me R5 , Temporale R9 proudly wearing the NZ badge, as Temporale did with 4 Aussie campaigns. The GALAH Raven Banner R7 Copy That R8 A Galah much more pretty than a raven and can copy and mimic people to talk well too. RICHIE Special Way R1 , It's All About Faith R7 has a special way of making Harness racing sound Great , as it is. NOWORNEVER Need you Now R3 , Tick Tock Go R4 could be now for a shot at the win. RANGATIRA Mr Ibiza R6 , Taipo R8 The holidaying maori 'chief ' can come in like a maori 'typhoon' or Taipo and blow everyone away. JJ FLASH Outlaw Man R7 Call Me Trouble R9 JJ is still around town and on the unruly list with some. NOODLUM DISQUALIFIED not starting as named a list of disqualified persons this week , so he can join them !!!! hahahaha HAPPY SUNRISE Off and Gone R5 , Happy Place R10 old mate Happy was off and gone sadly (come back Happy!) hope he is in a Happy Place. GOOD LUCK to all, don't forget the $1 Comp for Karrots on the front page Competition spot , !!!!!!!!!! winner declared Friday evening.

4 years ago in 2017 Alford drove LennyTheShark (without cover no less) and held off the mighty SMOLDA by 1/2 head and the goat LAZARUS was third. Not many can do that !!! (beat Lazarus , lol...... ) I'm very into Stable loyalty though , hahahaha AND REWARD for those behind the scenes staff , that Do so much. I'm still getting over the Shock from John Dunn (main opponent to ALLSTARs usually) driving ASHLEY LOCAZ in the Interdominion final at Auckland DEC 2019.? rewarding the opponent ? with big race drive , sucks I reckon. The great Vinny Knight put on Scott Stewart , Brian Hancock put on Howard James (on their seconds strings) in Interdominion Finals , STABLE Loyalty that gave those 2 unknown drivers the Thrill of a lifetime. !!! they both WON. McCarthys did put MAT RUE (unknown driver) on Baby Bling to win Miracle Mile 2013, so that was Nice anyway.

I would think she might of gone to see ONE CHANGE at Menangle this week in million dollar Miracle Mile , but has been WRONGLY left out of the race after placing 3rd in Group 1 last week, and appearing to qualify. But the F...ed NSWHRB put in the 'local' 4th placegetter from that race last week IGNATIUS, of 'local boy' Rattray into the Miracle mile instead. what a RIP-OFF !!!!

A $million dollar race !! wow, party time in NZ. Gee it would be Faaaaaanntastic if she could do it.!! (Memphis)

If that is the case, then I am being a little harsh on McCarthy with my reaction. Maybe Leonard should of 'Pitched his Case' to the owners a bit better?. e.g (does lots of trackwork with it, knows the horse inside out, etc. for either Orlando or Ex Ego owners. I would of had him on in a Heartbeat. Is actually GOOD IMO if the owners are given a choice of driver. I raced many horses over the years , even partnerships of 3 and 4 have 'disputes' over trainer , driver, where to start horse , etc and it becomes not as much fun unfortunately. (raced my last 2 as sole owner) Trainers USUALLY decide the drivers for the owners is what I found over the years.

Spankem after the 2019 win in 1.47.7 could of given them a run for their money for sure. I was very annoyed reading the driving engagements, as Leonard Cain a good young QLD driver and reliable stable worker for them, and not given a chance at the big race to help define his career. In 2013 Mat RUE , the young stable (third string )driver got to drive BABY BLING and won the Miracle Mile. wow!! What's wrong with Leonard this year? mean buggers lol......................

I just remembered another one as well. Victor Supreme ( wolfenden ) and Young Mister Charles ( NSW ) were BOTH disqualified for positives after running 2nd and 3rd in the 1995 Interdomonion Final to Victorian Golden Reign.

Love that horse but with Moran driving (new driver for it) and Luke on the current Title Holder King of Swing at $1.40. race is all over. a poor edition of the race actually. (as far as Open Class Group 1 winners goes)

Addington 1971 as in above post. Also an Aussie was disqualified at Auckland in 2011 after winning final

Here it is from early on in thread Newmarket

This thread is a lot worse than your 'good guys' thread yesterday in industry support. My nominations getting an honourable/ dishonourable mention. I see Dalgety got a mention here today as well , so Gammalite has gone down like the Titanic with my Good guys nominations yesterday lol........ F for failed. sad. maybe the lovely Nat still a good guy after 5 Interdominion wins.

Yes , I have to retract that Chief, you are quite right and some of the cases you put on the thread from a lot of fine horsepeople would be mistakes and/or accidental administration. I know of one protracted saga involving a local Trainer Darrell Graham , who got a year from unknown source for Cobalt.

Form Horse Trainer Other Eng. Driver Class Hcp 1 424s1 THE BLACK PRINCE NZ Roy Roots Jnr Robert Morris NR120 FR1 2 24134 IGNATIUS Todd Rattray James Rattray NR120 FR2 3 11193 ONE CHANGE NZ (Em 2) Vicki Rasmussen Menangl 06/03/2021 Shane Graham NR120 FR- 4 21811 EXPENSIVE EGO Belinda McCarthy David Moran NR97 FR3 5 92122 ALTA ORLANDO NZ Belinda McCarthy Chris Alford NR120 FR4 6 11131 KING OF SWING NZ Belinda McCarthy Luke McCarthy NR120 FR5 7 13411 WOLF STRIDE A M Butt, S L Smith Anthony Butt NR120 FR6 8 26773 MACH SHARD NZ (Em 1) Belinda McCarthy Menangl 06/03/2021 John McCarthy NR100 FR- 9 10252 OUT TO PLAY Clayton Tonkin Greg Sugars NR120 FR7 10 32141 STYLISH MEMPHIS NZ Mark Jones Jack Trainor NR120 FR8 I cannot believe the McCarthy's have put on 2 of their MAIN opposition drivers on this week for the Miracle Mile. Alford (driving for Emma Stewart mostly with good horses) and Moran (driving Lochinvar Art to kick McCarthy brains in mostly) ENGAGED to DRIVE?????? They are kidding, Bad enough the Fraudulant 'Belinda' Bit in the training to 'protect' poor Lukey. Now they slap their stable reinsman in the face with a GIANT wet Fish. poor LEONARD CAIN. been winning heaps of races for them too. young reinsman Jack Trainer good enough to get a drive . GO Stylish Memphis !!!!! for NZ and Anthony Butt is Man enough to put his training Partner on the training ticket with him (Sonya Smith) GO Ant's !!!! and Wolf Stride. !!! for NZ I'll never support McCarthy's again !!!! hope Ego and Orlando run last and second last. don't deserve any better. Com'on Anthony !!! Com'on Jack Trainer (for Mark Jones) run the Quinella !!!!!!!

Yes, He got someone elses 'Order' apparently , from the great feed mixing company. that was lucky. (or unlucky)

Haha! yes you could run 3rd if luck on your side but from the draws you would think Copy That and Christianshavtime would be filling two of the three place spots

There goes Karrots $1 down the gurgler . Check out the ONE draw in that race? Do you have faith in it? sitting Pat on the favourites back?

Could Inca become involved and penalise these sheep to get results?

$1 ?? the pressure is on !! traditionally could of turned to ALLstars (like the NZ cup trifecta) but that has gone out the window...... mmmmmm any 50-1 tips Karrots ????? hahahaha

A great idea Galah, some positive media with a Personality is the answer. Karrots had lots of positive ideas to gather ownership and media support. Whether Chief likes it or not (because of expense) Inca helped show they are doing 'something' to keep the industry clean and cheats are penalised. Still a great day out for folk all over NZ and OZ because we have great horseman/women and lead the world nearly with some of the finest stock bred for racing on the planet. Now that the champion Mark P has stood down to a degree , after being like Clyde Barrow (from Bonnie and Clyde) and being the 'Bad guy' taking everyone's money, and machine gunned down lol..... more people can get some cake slices !!!!!!

Yeah I know what you mean. I'm very reluctant to use names myself , UNLESS convicted so are proven guilty. Many trainers 'retired' in QLD rather than get caught, some like S HUNTER , and A Donahue continued to cheat , and were caught and disqualified (on more than one occasion). Hey this thread has suddenly made me work out why everyone in world thinks harness racing is 'Cheats on Seats ' OMG !!!!!!!!!

Who are these three trainers Hunter? A thousand stables were 'milkshaking ' in the nineties , gallop and trot, and until the limits and testing was refined to be accurate and LIMITS set, many horses were winning with a good 'guzzle' all over NZ and Oz. without it , many trainers 'Gave up ' and quite a few just went and did something else, (all six leading stables in QLD were affected at the time, when Milkshakes were out-ruled) those that persisted ?? were caught and disqualified. Even to this very day , you will find the odd disqualification each month or two with a elevated CO2 . fools.