Gammalite

$30,000 Mares. No NR. RBD. Mobile FIRST 4, 4TH LEG EARLY QUADRELLA Form Horse Trainer Other Eng. Driver Class Hcp 1 4116s OUR PRINCESS TIFFANY NZ Dean Braun Luke McCarthy NR120 FR1 $2.50 2 21113 SCARLET BABE Vicki Rasmussen Shane Graham NR105 B4 FR2 $4 3 44242 FAME ASSURED Grant Dixon Grant Dixon NR118 B1 FR3 $14 4 97934 MISS RUBY SUNSHINE NZ Chantal Turpin Chantal Turpin NR86 B4 FR4 $21 5 81613 SAUCY DREAMS Chantal Turpin Pete McMullen NR100 B4 FR5 $15 6 14793 NO WIN NO FEED Belinda McCarthy Leonard Cain (C) NR115 B3 FR6 $34 7 11121 SPELLBOUND NZ Nathan Purdon Mark Purdon NR99 B3 FR7 $5.50 ------------------------------ Second Row ------------------------------ 8 83310 JERADAS DELIGHT Jack Butler Brendan Barnes NR91 B5 SR1 $12 9 015s3 PELOSI Anna Woodmansey John Cremin NR100 SR2 $15 10 03845 CHEVRONS REWARD NZ (Em 1) Charlie Cini Albpark 10/07/2021 Nathan Dawson NR113 B2 SR- $81 11 23621 LA BELLA VITA NZ Belinda McCarthy Ricky Thurlow NR90 B4 SR3 $41 SPELLBOUND and Markie, Nathan, Mikayla, Nigel and NZ harness fans, have been given the 'Car-park' visitors draw to deal with unfortunately , the dreaded 7 alley. She can still overcome this , and take victory! in the Group 3 'FLEUR DE LIL Ladyship 'Stakes , Race 4 AlbionPark Saturday night. Here is an example of the Total Rubbish Training/ Driving BS that we're spose to Put up with. ?? The most winning Aus driver , JUMPING OFF HIS OWN HORSES !!!!, to drive number 1 OUR PRINCESS TIFFANY (the former Allstars champion filly) as his 2 runners are Deceptively in his wifes name as Trainer. ????? How do they get away with this stuff?? It's just so WRONG. likewise notice Brisbane leading drivers Pete McMullen and Shane Graham have horses in wifes/partners names as trainer (Chantal Turpin and Vicki Rasmussen) so they can DRIVE OTHER HORSES AGAINST them occasionally ? This is so BAD,bad,bad. 2 years ago in the 3 year old fillies Breeders Crown 200k , LUKE drove Our Princess Tiffany for Allstars in the final , at 10-1 on !!($1.10 odds) and ran 3rd to his horse NO WIN NO FEED (driven by brother Todd) Todd since left for USA like Dexter Dunn did. The appalling named 'No Win No Feed' is in here too. (it got 100k in that crown win) even so ................... Surely the connections of NO WIN NO FEED and LA BELLA VITA can still ask this question .................. "WTF Luke, we're paying you 1000's in training Fees to you, and you're driving SOMEONE else's Horse to try and Beat Us ?????" I'd be totally unhappy with that. and tell him where to..... lol.......

Ya got me struggling with the message here Forb's. Maybe it's all cryptic tips from you for tomorrow night at Waikato. THE LAST GAMBLE in R1 and BUN IN THE OVEN R8

Great drive on Earthbound. No way in the world you could of kept Dexter in . Stewards report already declared him hanging out throughout the race anyway. Dexter turned GO GETTA"S head to the right that far he was looking at the ice-creams in the stand, !!!!! as you turned for home. Natalie wouldn't of even been able to keep him in. lol. Great job for 2nd !!!! Forb's can line up for a punt again next week lol..... or take the $130 Q and shout a carton.

True, they have about 2 meetins a week with 8 races average , so would be around 400 races this year , run in Tasmania. Interesting Ben Yoles brother Mark (a very good driver) only drives opposition horses currently !! lol. This happens a few times over the years, as they fight like cats and dogs now and then, Mark drives for a few weeks for Ben, then there's another fight , and off he goes to drive the opponents horses ...hahaha the cold getting to them maybe? must be a Tassie thing.? all the fighting. One night in Oct 2015, at the Tasmanian trotting awards dinner at Wrest Point casino, a few of the Leading Tasmanian harness racing families had a Large Clash in the Car -park , kicking and punching, and a heap of them got disqualified , fined , etc Fords, Hodges, Hilliers hahaha only in Tassie...... goodness me. Not happy with who got the Awards lol.......??? no i don't know the reason for fight , but how stupid is stupid.

Albion park is about it in Qld for metro tracks. will 'Be gone soon' as well when Olympic Games announced. site will be for Olympic village and media centre. Dogs move next year already, to new $4mill complex outside town. Gold Coast track closed 2010 very sadly , after just 20 years, when 2018 Commonwealth games announced . became athletes village. Hey Forbs , you had a visit to GCoast June 2007 then !! hope you had a great trip ! and seen some good horses too. esp FLEUR DE LIL winning the gold coast Oaks. She ultimately won a $1,000,000 !! only 2nd Qlder after Blacks A Fake to do that !!! fantastic mare. McCarthy was of course in QLD training at Logan for many many years before going to NSW. Team McCarthy has countless Albion and Gold Coast winners. Update for you , the Lola Weidemann star 2 year old you mentioned , MISTY PLAINS winning the 2 year old Breeders classic you saw, only raced 1 more year. (15 wins from 29 starts) a year after you saw him , he got beat a head in the 3 year old breeders classic same time of year (by McCarthy of course and GUITARZAN) and never raced again. must of broke down. Lola up to 3000 winners now,!!! wow, and says has driven well over 2,000,000 road km's to races and back home in horsetrucks.!!! that is insane amount of looking at roads hahahah The Leigh Smart 2 year old you saw , DONT FALL FOR ME , went on to win the NSW Oaks group 1 , the next season.! Leigh and Pam Smart put their horses with Vicki Rasmussen these days and still winning features. Have a real good one named 'SMART AS CAMM BE' at moment , but has tendon soreness. ($200k won, and 17 wins from 23 starts)

Would love to see them both win!!!. Not sure why fly Blair Orange over for KRUG drive. I'd of just chucked Grant Dixon on and then would just WIN the race lol.... Grant knows every cm of the course with only a couple of thousand wins there heheh, spose Blair will give it a good shot anyway. Krug only 2-1 odds. wow. And The great Auckland Cup winning mare Amazing Dream has the master on driving , and is juicy 12-1 too. !! Quinella Time !. Mark popped SELF ASSURED over to Brisbane and won 4 out of 4 winter 2019, so he knows the place ok., no worries. Self Assured won the QLD Derby beating 'Lochinvar Art' , (beat him in the lead up race as well) a horse that is near best in Aus when right, who has won 9 of his last 10 including 4 Group 1's . a great horse like Self Assured. 4th in that Derby, was ex-pat kiwi Allstar 'Our Princess Tiffany' , in against Spellbound and drawn 1 too in the Group 3 mares race this Saturday. Going to post about Tiffany's driving engagement later. controversial in my eyes.

Haha yeah can't say it's a goat track Forb's. Is absolutely brilliant to drive on 1019m around. (Albion Park at the creek) lol They used to go the 'wrong way ' round too, but fixed that problem. Alexandra Park Auckland only 1010m circumference and they STILL go the 'Wrong' way round ??? more of a goat track lol.? Hey, you are dead right about the size of field though. The short course racing should always be 10 starters. 8 would be even better, with all 8 a chance of winning then. 12 horse field wipes out the chances of at least 4 of them trying to come from the back. is impossible.

Don't know the Herbert on this thread , but a funny story , with the lovely bloke in this photo CLIVE HERBERT. quite a wealthy man, involved in football, (son Ricky captained and/or coached NZ soccer team for a few years) Clive purchased METAL MICKEY from Graham Court for a 'Hefty sum' and brought him up to Papakura where he lived next door to where I trained mine, and I often would help Clive out, while he was away on business or football, and tend his horses. MICKEY was a most beautiful chestnut (like Gammalite) and could go like a rocket !!!! he was unbelievable. wish every horse was like him (or Gammalite) We punted the crap out of the market for his first Auckland start Feb 1985, sent out favourite, and then some bugger fell, and tipped Mickeys driver out !! hahaha was broke again lol. not to be deterred , backed up again , and got rolled by Luxury Liner. So off to Wellington to try and get some form/ money and beaten first night again !. take out a loan and punt second night ?? youbetcha !!! and Mickey wins ! paid $1 .50 I think hahaha I laughed so hard , it was funny.lol.... Straight after that Clive set him for the GN Derby !! a hard task ? and he put a junior driver on !! I said "Who's that bloke ? are you going crazy?" lol. A youthful Anthony Butt ! Ants steers him brilliantly, to 2nd in the derby behind Nardinski and Jack Smolenski. THAT was a hard Derby.!! Future NZ CUP winners 'Luxury Liner' and 'Master Mood' were rank outsiders finishing down the track?. 'Placid Victor' unplaced too. Gammalite got lucky in the future thank goodness , and picked up the 4th placegetter 'Frederick' , couple of years later to bash around with in Queensland. and get back some of the heavy losses that the beautiful horse METAL MICKEY imposed on us. hahahaha. (didn't back him in the Derby)

Just the trotters Chief. They were only getting 6 horse fields when carded on the programme. Pacers will continue. Get a load of this!!! . BEN YOLE , the Tasmanian (and Australias most winning trainer because of numbers) he had 51 horses in last Friday in Hobart. !!!! least amount he had in one race was '4 ' runners (usually 6 to 8 per race ) How sharp would the stewards have to be to look out for 'Team driving ' ???? hehehe lol..... There was 8 races with a total of 85 starters, so only 34 'rivals' to beat all night lol.... . Ben won 5 races training. So YOLE is on 128 season wins from a staggering 1,681 starters since January 1st. Grant Dixon (here in QLD) is running 2nd with 110 wins from a 1000 starters. season is exactly 1/2 way through. Robert and John Dunn in NZ are usually sending around near the most starters for NZ of 600-700 runners per Year, and get about 100 wins per year , every year. They are very reliable and much better strike rate too !! .

Absolutely !! there has been plenty of debate about the 'Whip' use with harness horses and Thoroughbred horses for months/ years now. You can never get the rule 'just right' to suit everyone. I'm sure those big races last century in history are consigned to that. History. and everyone is glad to see the changes have resulted in a more subdued product. Mick 'the enforcer' Dittman Aus, and Jim 'the pumper' Cassidy wouldn't be able to use their riding style these days. A great Outcome of this , is the fantastic progress made by the females in racing . Jamie Kah , Danielle Johnson , Natalie Rasmussen and most races are now 'riddled' with the young female jockeys and drivers throughout the harness and galloping races in every state of Aus and NZ, as the Reliance on strong 'standover driving/ riding' is not required or tolerated anymore. Hey, one bloke slipped up in Tas going back to the 'old ways', and had the race taken off him !!! sign things are still changing for the better. here's the clipping, I'll paste here. The winner of Tasmania's premier harness race has been disqualified over what has been described as a shocking breach of the rules by the horse's driver. The decision, possibly the first of its kind in Australia, comes almost six weeks after the running of the $75,000 Tasmania Cup in Hobart.21 Apr 2021

have been to 100 different tracks Aus and NZ but never got to see Forbury Park alas. As a teen in Auckland , did have one memory of Forbury Park, as dad a crazy punter, had this 'Special of ALL time ' from a nationwide tip /word of mouth and media, for a Derek Jones MMNZ trained horse running at Forbury Park in the Spring of 1979. Derek took the pacer the long trip to Forbury Park for the use of the mobile as he had refused to 'step' in his first 2 race starts from a stand in maidens , and was proving difficult to get away. Dad , (and much of NZ ) sending the horse with a '00 formline' out as Hot favourite. unfortunately a Forbury Park maiden was too hot !!, for the barrier rogue and rather than follow the mobile to the start, He tangled and took the easy way out, by Crashing to the Forbury Park deck. " Hands Down, he's down alright" said the commentator . Teen self saying to my losing dad, "Doubt that will ever win a race" "can't even get it started in the race". Hand's Down got back up off the deck ok, and after leaving Forbury behind as a 'bad night out', went on to win about 30 races, including the NZ Cup and NZ FFA. !!

Places of History being demolished is a real tragedy. Forbury Park being another great harness track to go the way of the greats (horses and people) that raced there. consigned to memories and history. Gammalite loves an Interdominion, having won 2 of them, and loving all the great NZ and Aus champions that have competed in it. THEN, one night in history at Forbury Park 1965, in the near 100 year History of the greatest Race there is ,The Interdominion Grand-Final , there was 2 winners in one go !!!! A VERY FAMOUS dead-heat between champion NZ mare Robin Dundee (Doody Townley) flashing up out wide, and Jay Ar (George Noble) . Both starting from the 12yard handicap. Still keeps Forbury Park in Dunedin as the one host track of an Interdomion Grand-Final Dead heat , to date , maybe forever.

The field is out with barriers for the $1/4mill Rising Sun in Brisbane Saturday evening. A mini Interdominion for the big prize. 3 from NZ, 7 from NSW, 1 from Vic, and sadly ................................1 from Queensland (BlacksADance).. good grief , you could pull Blacks A Fake (4 time Interdominion winner for Nat) out of the retirement paddock and nearly beat it home lol. Best QLD 4 yearolds 'Governor Jujon' (17 wins from 24) and former kiwi 'One Change' (8 wins from 15 in Bris) are missing in action. (or non-action) ANYWAY , It's up to the KIWI's to carry the day !!! The sun rises in NZ well before here in Brissy lol.... KRUG, AMAZING DREAM ,COPY THAT , looks a spanking chance of taking the trifecta ! Brodster might open the wallet for a tenner on that result even. Best of Luck. Form Horse Trainer Other Eng. Driver Class Hcp 1 11221 KRUG NZ Cran Dalgety NR110 FR1 2 s1431 KASHED UP Gemma Hewitt Brendan Barnes NR68 FR2 3 24314 AMAZING DREAM NZ Nathan Purdon NR120 B1 FR3 4 2309s KOWALSKI ANALYSIS Matthew Craven Sofia Arvidsson (C) NR75 FR4 5 11521 BUNDORAN NZ Amanda Turnbull Amanda Turnbull NR109 FR5 6 13311 ILIKEMEBETTOR (Em 1) Belinda McCarthy Albpark 10/07/2021 Luke McCarthy NR67 B5 FR- 7 11213 SEND IT Brad Hewitt Brad Hewitt NR90 B4 FR6 ------------------------------ Second Row ------------------------------ 8 82633 BLACKSADANCE Chantal Turpin Pete McMullen NR95 B2 SR1 9 21111 EXPENSIVE EGO Belinda McCarthy Luke McCarthy NR120 B1 SR2 10 4s111 SPIRIT OF ST LOUIS NZ Belinda McCarthy Luke McCarthy NR97 B4 SR3 11 43141 CRUNCH TIME Rickie Alchin Nathan Dawson NR96 B5 SR4 12 32436 MACH DA VINCI NZ Peter Hanson Shane Graham NR103 B5 SR5 13 11291 COPY THAT NZ Ray Green Anthony Butt NR120 B1 SR6

That was tame as!!..... if you want to see some real whip work have a crack at the next Interdominion at Addington after that one. YouTube will show it. 1987 Interdominion at Addington and an Aussie one-two-three in the Pacers Grand- final. My Lightning Blue getting 24 Full-Blooded strikes all the way up the home straight from Jimmy O'Sullivan. You won't see stuff like that again . Mango getting stuck into Luxury Liner there too. All seems pretty mild these days?

Think you on the money there Galah. the stewards seem reluctant to take action against the star players. Think a lot of team driving whether Telfer or Allstars , Dunn or other has been highlighted on BOAY . If we can see it , you would think stewards would hahahaha ... I think if it (team driving) doesn't decrease your drives chance of winning, it is fine but obviously the case you high-lighted with D Ferguson letting Serrento win was a VERY dubious one indeed. his horse was butchered. Grant Dixons wife Trista got a YEAR DQ, !!! for moving to one side to let hubby Grant win on Our Overanover once. You can't muck around with these things. rub them out . or more will copy and you don't want that.

In Victoria today in 2021, a great ex-pat kiwi trainer is still bringing home a trotting winner . His son driving a winner for them today as co-trainers, Can you name this magnificent animal that he won plenty with in NZ , including one of the most Dashing Wins ever seen at Addington in a feature race ever? Double points if you can get the 2 Aussies who ran second and third in that amazing performance.

hahaha yeah 'Suicide Sam' Pete Mcmullen came blazing out of the outside gate with some outsider and stuffed things up. I was on BALRAJ , as McCarthy seems to win every second race he's in , and it DREW WELL. Thought BALRAJ would lead in the slop, but got nice drop on Spankem after that blazing first quarter anyway. BUT NO !!! not to be . Anthony Butt driving with the style and ability that everyone Loves . and Winning . !! Hey something everyone BOAY agrees on. !!!!!!!! fabulous driver Anthony Butt !! Too good . not many win from where he was at 1/4 , yet Ant's did it!!. full credit . and a poor loss to gammy lol.....

Hey , just posting COPY THAT from Saturday night for those that didn't see him rip down the outside in the slop, to yet another nice Victory for him !! well done Ant's driving and Ray Green training. Spankem is right there in the firing line in the black shadow roll, NOT far away at all. He's going well (subject to opinion on this thread)!!! lol.... poor old bugger. The second placegetter there, is kiwi-bred BALRAJ. A victor over KING of SWING last year. !!! amazing. hasn't won this year though for McCarthy in 8 starts. but still going well. no one saying he lost a leg lol..... It's bloody hard to win at this level !!!! what are you guys thinking? Local champion COLT THIRTY ONE , near the 2nd best QLD horse ever, has NOT won this Year yet either. That shows how hard it is to win at this level. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lost a leg phfffff. Copy That !! wow !! how good and KRUG too. my EXPENSIVE EGO tickets are looking Very shaky indeed ?? thanks to the shakey Isles.

Courage Under Fire ?? just a guess, but he is the sire of SMOLDA amongst others that did well. Allstars are certainly under No pressure to produce a leading sire from their racing stock. However, Sure hope ALL the folk with a Lazarus foal get a winner on their hands !! (and not all at Cullens lol....) Auckland Reactor was a flop I think? American bloodlines still dominate. BETTORS DELIGHT becoming the best in all history it seems. NZ and Oz . here has 300 winners from 500 starters approx this season. going great guns.

Oh yes , the 'Master' jumped straight up . lifting the plastic running rail out of the way himself lol. thank goodness not solid rail.!!. One of my first visits to Alexandra Park , and Mark Purdons brother Owen Purdon, had a crash in front of the Grandstand, on 'Egmont Kawhai 'who got impaled on the running rail they used to have!!!, Was very distressing to see all that damage. (to the horse). One of those shocking things that just stays with you. rail removal and change to marker poles a true blessing in the 90's.!! Anyway , I sort of meant does Jamie Richards himself need to set horses in the jumps?. wouldn't the High profile Te Akau brand, be better to Lead the way in Group racing? I do admire 'experts' in their field though. The late Ken Browne (jumping trainer icon) won every time over fences, the few times I went to Ellerslie. just a legend!. But this century? can't they just put those old horses over a 2 mile 'slow' flat course or something?

All good. The fact many 'question' the success is likely to warrant extra attention and keep everything honest and above board. I questioned the staggering recent success of GRIMSON /TRAINOR team 'Barn' at Menangle recently , on another thread. Stewards even locked their barn up under supervision for a while last month to see whats going on. think they won another 3 races on Saturday from memory. red cells are in order on their runners ok hehehehe TURN IT UP is a real beauty !! hey that is a great record in NZ ! Mark races him still I think? not 100% sure. But he does race AKUTA !! AKUTA could be the next Lazarus too.!! great reward for Mark . and lets hope Cullen can keep all those red blood cells in order ?? Enjoy the racing !!

Chief, just a quick question to have tiny break from the 'rigor's' of defending poor old Spankem and Allstars for a second, what did you think of the Leading galloping stable starting that hurdler on Saturday? BAK DA MASTER for Jamie Richards in Race 2 Sat was going to win too , but crashed shockingly at the last fence or second last fence in a jaw dropping moment.?? Does he need that?? The leading stable with 'Melody Belle colours' crashing to Terra Firma after flying high up and over? I had a look at those first 3 races at Hastings Saturday, and as Galah said on gallops thread , that was sort of awful, in my opinion as well. The jockey in horse falling at the last fence, in race 2 nearly got launched into orbit !!!! held my breath for that one. Seems so unnecessary ? for want of a better word these days . (Because of risk to horse and Jockey IMO)

Well I'm confused with this , as you said you thought TURN IT UP should of won the race , (and beat CopyThat,Spankem,Colt31) and yet is only a poor version of the NZ one? ??contradiction. but anyway see what he does next , as always. I see you support paleface and red blood cells theory, well I'm sick of that arguement . But will just add there is DECADES of SUCCESS. so how long red blood cells in action? mmmmm .....not decades? might be a red herring !! lol.......smarts required. lol... No, they were the best !! but horses like Cruz Bromac and Princess Tiffany have Group1 success elesewhere too. so please give the horses some credit sometimes. not just the 'red cell' theory lol....... (tongue in cheek) LAZARUS is a stallion ??? goat.

Why ?? I can't see why they believe that rubbish? (Brodie and Newmarket yeah maybe as always) but com on' guys ! Spankem hasn't lost form. He did very well in that race, is what Chief and I are saying. Burned early. aggressive drive from Kylie. Sloppy track. we had a bit of rain so whoever commented on the time ran is DREAMING. Sunshine Coast gallops were canned altogeather. Track record record is 1.50.4 I quite expect them to miss it by 2 seconds in the slop. Spankem has beaten by KING OF SWING and COPY THAT at his last 2 starts. Two of the Very Best in the Southern Hemishere?? surely you guys agree to that fact at least?. Do you seriously think SPANKEM should be beating them ???? He's Not LAZARUS !!!!!!!!!!! I'm just arguing you're 'asking too much' of the great horse. make him sound like a cat? or Queensland trainers are useless.? Two things I strongly disagree with > >>>> that's my comment. We could discuss many Allstars horses and I totally disagree with that too. Smooth Deal even won in Oz recently lol.... There is no 'Trend' .Horses good there have been good here too. (acknowledged by Newmarket even???? )goodness! lol...... Galah said TURN IT UP should of won Sat? where's the loss of form then ?? We did have a GROUP 1 here in Brissy a while back, and he ran third to KING OF SWING and COLT 31, the very Best Possible result he could achieve I feel ??? The great GAMMALITE himself won an Auckland Cup like TURN IT UP as well, but had only one 2nd placing in 6 starts at Addington. And doesn't mean he lost form or anything. Just had some SERIOUS OPPOSITION.

not you too paleface, as you showed great judgement in pointing out Shockwave in the wild west as a good un' Spankem hadn't won his 4 starts this year in NZ either before leaving NZ shores? COPY THAT had won quite a few !! so why is Spankem supposed to be beating him all the time? I can't see it. how? Thought NZ enthusiasts would be REJOICING with the fact two Superstars have emerged , KRUG and COPY THAT , neither are Allstars or Cullens horses.? , isn't that what ALL you Blokes wanted ????? instead all want to pick on one of the 'hardest tryers' going around , brilliant tryer SPANKEM. plenty of seconds but still a Miracle Mile winner. just not winning when you all want him too? did win here 2 starts ago anyway. dribble on.