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They tried it once. Dave Jessop brought in Vance Hanover and stood him at $500 or $1000 or something like that , and the landscape was flooded with Vance Hanover's . 500 per season for 2 or 3 years . Artificial Insemination was used . but didn't work. sure Christopher Vance turned up and Our Sir Vancelot amongst others, but so did heaps and heaps of battlers not paying their way and it just belittled the product . Better to do your homework and breed your mare to the best cross you can find. As I said there's a pecking order. Bettor's Delight leads the way with Lazarus his prize foal (out of a Christian Cullen mare ) so a golden cross right there. These are some of the best sires and racehorses the Planet has Ever seen. Of course you should have to Pay something to be part of the elite. Bound to be some stallions up the road there in Canterbury standing for $1000?. go to them if you don't want to Pay for the best lol. Captain Treacherous at $20,000 looks the go to me at Cobbity farms . great value. fabulous stock. Lucky you guys don't look at the thoroughbred service fees or you'd die of Heart attacks lol......😂😂 (think a thoroughbred stallion like e.g 'I Am Invincible' is about $1/4 million service fee these days)
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Very excited to see the best meeting in the world on this week for 5 straight days Tuesday to Saturday. some of The best on the planet on show racing the famous course. Thrilled for ex-pat kiwis Chris Waller with Jmac riding conquered the world there last year with Nature Strip. This year, the Group1 Lightning winner COOLANGATTA is there to take em' on. A great Aussie name to do us proud hopefully. How's this for a great bit of trivia. >>>>>>>>> All Six of our down-under Royal Ascot winners won the Group 1 'Lightning Stakes' down the Flemington straight, before going over to England ! quite amazing. Choisir started the ball rolling , followed by Takeover Target, Miss Andretti, Scenic Blast , Black Caviar and Nature Strip. all were Flemington Lightning winners. hoping for Coolangatta to make it the lucky 7 this year 🏆. there is also Artorius and The Astrologist also having a crack this year during this week as well. The queen is sadly completed her reign , so hoping the King 'Heir apparent' William and Kate take up the Royal prestige of the event .
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Thanks Freda , SA and Chief too. Great article there Chief on the young fella from NZ doing well. I realise I was probably a bit behind the times and everyone there in the gallops world knew young Pinn was over in Oz landed already, and I got a bit excited finding out just yesterday 😂. But 'knowledge is wealth' as they say and conversely 'ignorance is poverty' . so better to keep up on the pace in this tough racing game .😊🏇
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No time for Solitaire SA. (although was flogging someone on on-line chess yesterday while waiting for a race to start 😂) Today was balancing watching the Big raceday, and AFL footy today . Brisbane Lions Lost sadly. just go crappy at the MCG all the time. But thought there was some u-beaut betting opportunities to share with the good BOAY folk. Was pointing out Wiremu Pinn's good form . he finished with 3 wins and 2 seconds today . what a tremendous rider he is. The trotting boys here are probably a bit more alive it seems though lol.😄 But I think all the nz galloping forum punters are at the Channel X site where their comp finished today or RIP sites , where i've qualified for the comp final there already in 3 weeks time.
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Great right on Deepstrike by Wiremu to give him a treble for the day . 💰💰💰 do they call him billy ? Gets $8.50 Deepstrike in the last with another punishingly good ride . well done Champ !!!!!! And Matty Cartwright a double 💰💰. hope you Nz guys followed me in and made a quid ? Well done Matty and Wiremu . 5 wins for the day . two champions of the future !!!! (and the present) thanks for playing. regards Gamma.
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soorry about that guys . Elkington Road stopped to a walk late on. anyway the boys were back to quinella the second last race. Matty Cartwright a great ride on Pacific Ruby and Wiremu 2nd with He's our Bonaval for a nice easy Quinella .💰 One race to come . Matty Cartwright on Secret Plan and Wiremu Pinn on Deepstrike. 2 quinella's in a row ? solid chance....
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Wiremu rides Nasraawy well for 2nd and Flossing had a great trip too in the 6th but faded late. I think 'Elkington Road' is near his Best bet of day for Mr Pinn , with the 3kg claim .coming up soon race 7. Track there looks terrible today, but Elkington Road won over the course and distance and has 2 out of 2 on a heavy. Great odds at 6-1 EW. bring it home Wiremu 💰🏇
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As the money keeps flowing in for Wiremu , hopes are high for the quinella in race 5 now with... the top and the bottom of the racelist Curran (Matty) and Nasraawy (Wiremu) .... bring it home boys !! 😉🏆💰
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Just missed the $5 of quinella , but Matty a place and Wiremu a win makes for good result in the 4th anyway. FRIGID 1st, BLACKCOMB 3rd. bless them.... This jockey Mr PINN, is gunna be a SUPERSTAR !! ⭐. rides like Dye at that age. a total WINNER.
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Handy 2nd for Wiremu Pinn in the 3rd race giving the Butterfly a beautiful one-one trip , with a great ride. Watching for Frigid in the next race with him. (and Blackcomb for matty in race 4) Meanwhile at Brisbane , the time honoured Brisbane Cup is about to go .......... and a fricken hurdler is favourite ?? Used to be such a great race once. now a bit player on the program . 😪 Jim Cassidy won up here as a young fella on Yippiyio. and celebrates in style lol.😂
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That train bolts in . Wiremu Pinn is such a strong rider ...... bolts away with 2nd race easily with Extratwo. Matty Cartwirght cut out of the Quinella in the last 50m but went good. both boys in the Tri. Time to board the Cruise ship next ? Jaykayann is hotpot in the 3rd But reckon Wiremu will/could have the 'luck of the Irish' on the Irish Butterfly with 3kg claim and give it a bit of a fright ?
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and Home goes LINKS in the First race now . Great ride Matty 🥰 . You know it's gunna be a good day.... Next stop ...Wiremu station.
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What a star that bloke was. They still run the 'Flashing Red' race here in QLD in his honour. His nz trainer Tim Butt now here too in Brisvegas (and going pretty average really... only seems to hae mid-week runners) Flashing Red from Tas originally then a kiwi and QLDer , so takes right after myself in lucky breaks in life, and returned to Tas to win heats of the Interdominion in 2006. (final worth $900k won by fellow QLD champ Blacks A Fake) it was a real thrill to be there. Here is the great Flashing Red in the capable hands of the gun Anthony Butt, taking one of his Nz Cup victories !!! What a fricken absolute legend of a horse 🏆.
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Thank you Nz for sending him over. BIG book of rides at Sandown today . I hope he stays in Australia after. Has been my favourite jockey to back in New Zealand racing as gives it a real go and they respond for him . Plus great to bet on his rides too lol. My favourite Aussie apprentice is back in action too, Matty Cartwright. Won stacks of races last Winter and is the Aussie equal of Wiremu. Also great punting value 💰 Matty is just back from broken ankle in February. The 2 Lads are sure to have a BIG day today at Sandown and can't wait to see how they go !!🏇🏇💰
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When you're gunna breed a horse , you have a pecking order . and the order is Very very narrow in harness racing. Only about 10 stallions to consider. all the American bred boys are proven. The standing Fee price is what you pay for the best. Think Bettor's Delight about $25,000 now ? but not sure. (Think Lazarus is in Aus at around $8000 . reckon i'd try that.) whats Vincent at Alabar's Fee ?? $5000 ? might be worth a look. Or you'd go Captain Treacherous , Always B Miki, Sweet Lou, etc. etc..blah . blah ..... down the order to you get to your price..
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Don't think so . Two completely different services. You make a conscious decision to take 'your own mare' to a stud stallion to get the best result you think you can get from bloodlines. you might pay a lot more for that service than making a purchase at the/a dispersal sale . The sale helps promote the product in a more affordable manner for some people that want to RACE a horse. The one's that don't want the risk's and drama that go with breeding. The breeders are trying to BREED a good horse . Either to sell like Woodlands did/do or just have a bit of fun . So can't see the Studs doing any harm to Breeders at all. They're bringing in (and standing) the good stallions. Breeders pay for that service being available, as per always.
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Has the new CEO of Albion Park left HRNZ a bit short of cash?
Gammalite replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Trotting Chat
Interesting that Archie rumour as seems an unusual source for such speculation , and even More Unusual that the active Cambridge CEO would leave the club , after setting up the Grins Race and trying to keep Nz North Island harness racing secure (after the diabolical efforts at Auckland trotting Club in recent years. hell, he (Branch) won't even get to see the Harness museum resurected, after being ostracised from Auckland. Another kiwi leaves the 'sinking ship' for the sunny shores of Brissy?. nothing new there I spose?. The current Brisbane Albion park CEO Chris Bombolis is standing down from ill health, and the previous one Scott Steele is probably still in the court system on some 'sex charges thing from 2015-16. those sort of sordid things drag out for years and are never fully represented. Bit annoying we don't have a local candidate to the fill the position. Instead of dragging another pro-active man out of Nz if the rumour is true , and add to stressful situation already happening in North Nz harness (with numbers racing ,etc) -
Mate you have been waxing lyrical for years about the state of the industry and what is best for it. Often finding the costs are major worry to yourself. Only 15 % of horses racing return a career profit mate. It's a sport and recreation for most of the participants. They Expect for it to cost them something. they are racing for Enjoyment. Breeders always take risks. as in only 15% of what they breed will return a profit in most cases. Well done to Woodlands for supplying great horses (at great prices) to the community to keep the game going . excellent stuff . Game would cease to exist without them. Here's a beauty Woodlands bred horse in next Saturday night at Albion . A real goer tip for you ! !! a fast like him only won about 50k in Nz over his first year and half racing there. poultry money from 15 dd starts there. A loss I would say . McCarthy is doing well with it , hopefully for Nz owners but not sure. Here's a nice pic of him . 2nd in Qld Derby last year to Leap Of Fame (also in this Saturday) whose owner has bred a thousand horses to Finally get his best one yet.
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What was the horse or race etc that got you started?
Gammalite replied to Walt's topic in Trotting Chat
Chief must be trying to keep a couple of good sorts on the ad's again. Think the Ukranian girls would like Oz and Nz to get away from the blasted silly war currently. might put an order in lol.....😄 Hell yeah . the old Captain Harcourt was a real ripper . He Did Pluck an Auckland Cup too with Tommy Knowles driving . looks like the Cardigan Bay colours of Wolfies ? that he carried . Would of plucked the Trifecta (except they didn't have em' then 😁 ) with his fellow flashy chestnuts Speedy Guest and Noodlum 2nd and 3rd as well .... -
What was the horse or race etc that got you started?
Gammalite replied to Walt's topic in Trotting Chat
Wow !. exactly the same as you and Walt for me too . Dad always with the transistor all day long early 70's . Put a dollar each way on Alex park trots for me when about 10-12 years old . Captain harcourt and Blair Logie are 2 ones I remember. then we started going to Alex Park from late 70's on . and I wanted to work with em from that moment. started stable work first day , day after school UE 6thform finished..... and best thing ever did. Also remember the old boy loved trebles . always took 2 horses with the field in final leg. As said " Doubles are easier to get than trebles " . fine wisdom there I spose. but like you nearly all my bets are on Aussie gallops these days. Got the EF quaddie the other day , as wasn't too hard and they pay pretty good compared to trots. Don't mind taking Allstars in trifectas though on Nz trots , as they are always in it. 🏆💰 -
I take it she works for Mark and Nathan Purdons stable with the amount of drives for that stable ?. Including winning the Group 1 Nz Oaks in December with No Matter Wat. (90k for winner) But today without Nat or Mark present it would seem , as Blair Orange has taken the 3 drives on Bronson 5th, Waterfront 3rd, and VinkeB for 4th. Why couldn't Olivia drive any of them ? she's had 400 drives now across 6 seasons . Not many I know .but is up to 48 wins. but she was 'dragging a drive' on 'Press Play' for someone else stable in the last race today, is that all she is reduced to??? Must be deflating as anything for her. The Big Blair drives netted $2,450 on Waterfront, $1,200 on Vinke and $1,350 on Bronson. so can hardly be 'Big money' events being the reason. Blair didn't win any of 8 drives in total today at Ashburton anyway. Surely it's just as good to put Your Own Stable driver worker on in the Bush meetings ??
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One of the greatest things ever for Nz racing SAgent. and followed up by Laurie Laxon with Empire Rose , and Brian Jenkins with Jeezabeel and Sheila Laxon with Ethereal late last century taking the biggest plum there is in racing , The Melbourne Cup. This century the plethora of Northern hemisphere runners (used to competing over that distance) and the Juggernaut of super stables like Wallers , Waterhouse, Snowdens Hayes Goldolphin and Neasham with between 500-1000 horses on their training name each, and maher/Eustuce in 4 figures , nobody is beating that avalanche of runners these days. That many horses they have , they mostly don't even meet the owners these days , and I would think they have horses they don't even remember at times lol .... The hard working harness racing folk of Nz and Aus, on a Positive note 😉, are all involved with their horses way more , and trainers actually train them physically lol.... (like those great kiwi Melbourne Cup winning trainers did)
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Some of the best stuff ever written here at BOAY. 100% behind you with this mate. exactly how it is. Yes the likes of Trusty Scot , and Sapling and Trevira from the deep South , all had a chance to win NZ Cups and Auckland Cups. I think just the other night with Mark Purdon winning the 8th Auckland Cup in a row , with several quinellas to boot , and the Allstars Nz Cup dominance too , the Nz Cup and especially Auckland Cup dream is over for nearly everyone , including the nations leading stable of Robert and John and Jenna Dunn. On another positive note 😊 Copy That ( although well beaten in Auckland Cups like everyone else ) has been able to stop the Nz Cup run of Allstars on 2 occasions and pluck the big Plum GRIN RACE as well in recent times . so it can be done? if you Have a Champion like Copy That in your backyard who can run a slick '3.54' for 2 miles time 😂.
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Yeah , I get that . it's a positive thread thing going here. I think the Lord Module highlights are only because he is a rogue who overcame adversity from his usual bad manners to win those 2 races. (and as I pointed out you can see Sunseeker wipe out the horses inside him around 2000m to go in the video Mikey posted above of the Nz Cup ,to give Lord Module the 1-1 rather than be stuck 3 wide. A real Positive for Him . (but sadly a real negative for Greg Robinson and Dels Dream lol 😉 ) the Positive Negative balance of nature happening there ? lol happens a lot in harness racing too. " for every action there is an equal an opposite reaction" 😄 so to roll with the positives for some greater performances than old rogue LM 😄 ......... I will stick with My heroes Delightful lady 2 Auckland Cups Gammalite a fantastic Auckland Cup and also Interdominion grand Final wins at Alex Park (The lady 3rd in that one) , Locarno and Young Quinn both winning the Miracle Mile from the 'impossible' outside barrier at Harold Park. Koala King and Pure Steel and Paleface Adios all with around 100 wins each. incredible stuff. Blossom Lady a couple of sensational Hunter Cups . The brilliant Lightning Blue returning to Nz to crush the local dreams in a Nz Cup triumph and Interdominion Final at Addington . Armalight scurried away from the field in Auckland and Nz Cups, No Response (Mikey posted above video) Blacks A Fake with 4 Interdominion Grand Final wins was through the ceiling Positively Good !! I could go on for hours with plenty more highlights but it's made me so positive i just got electric shock lol.....
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Even the best , have to get driven along a bit at times, so to be the Very best. as they are constantly racing against opposition that are pretty good as well in the features.. Popular Alm and Cardigan Bay included. Maori's Idol probably got off the easiest. Being so Superior to the Opposition (did race against pacers occasionally) most of his career in the trots, he was way out in front at races end , so No Need to pull the plugs lol. (whip) As for Lord Module , I'm not too impressed really . Last in Miracle Mile behind Nzer Robin Butt's Locarno (who i respect a lot more) , nowhere in the Interdominion behind Koala King and Pure Steel (way better horses) and only placed on 2 occasions in the Auckland Cup (well beaten by the Lady herself (Delightful lady who I respect and adore way more than him) Yes the old 'Module' (angry old stallion that he was) did win the Nz Cup 🏆 once. a fine achievement..... But still displayed hid terrible manners on that day at the start. (and was significantly aided and abetted by stablemate Sunseeker during the running of the event) The great Terror To Love missed away badly in his 3rd Nz Cup win as well losing 50m so it can be done fairly lol..........., but Think LM remembered more for being a 'rogue' than 'fine racehorse' . JMHO 😎.