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Auckland 71 starters over 10 races Stakes $159k?
Gammalite replied to Brodie's topic in Trotting Chat
She's back mate . and steering Oscar to Victory. AND i want you to say it . AUCKLAND fields are great this Week.?? surely you have to agree ? 😅🤣😂 You want to shut the place down ? but a 10 race card this week looks WAY Better than Addington?. will the 'Brodster Bias' kick in again ? The 3 yearold race looks good? . a very nice lot of horses. You'll probably say the FFA is crap even though it has the double NZ FFA winner and NZ Derby winner in it ? Great stuff mate. even with Hot and Treacherous and South Coast Arden and a host of others racing in Australia now , you can still have some quality horses at Auckland. You must be pleased with the Ribbon of Light ??? good on em . Great meeting . -
hahaha that's not possible . No one known would punch out the great maori chief ever. The foremost authority on nz harness ever. A great of the sport. Brodster is more of a pacifist and unlikely to swing the arms . The bloke who made a vaccine might be in a spot of bother , or Labour party, or TAB , but apart from that i'm sure he would buy you a beer old Ranga mate. WHo is this to prove your mettle? lol 😅🤣 big Nz winner ? lol
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well Weir was quilty and penalised . 4 years served. I don't mind if he comes back training personally. He served his time. Unlikely to do it again. Plenty of trainers in the past have been re-licensed after serving their time. YOLE is allegedly at this stage ... but warned off in the meanwhile lol 😎. To answer your questions in my opinion . a/ the worms need to see horses treated with a bit of care and compassion . racing and trotting. the good news is ...most Are . you have to pull up the likes of Yole and the Kaikoura bloke who neglected his a bit at one stage , and make sure they do the right thing (by the horse, their owners and the racing game in general. B/ c/ and D/ no no and No .... all just bits of equipment like a girth or a crupper or anything else that are part and parcel of racing horses. I don't even buy into the whip arguement . horses are horses . we're trying to race them to finish first . and in a SAFE manner so that rivals and themselves aren't in any peril from idiots . which you don't see much with the great horsemen and horsewomen we are blessed with in New Zealand and Australia.
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'Treat your horses appropriately with respect and Compassion' would be a great start. The owner angle that the Galah just mentioned should be a Priority. it's already snowballing. Ben Yole has Bain Bloodstock and Summit Bloodstock as their Tasmanian Trainer Chief . They syndicate hundreds of horses per year to 'Penny Share folk ' like the Wolf of Wall St would, and place them All round the country trying to collect any prizemoney they can . Summit Bloodstock owning huge chunk of The runners in Tamworth these days as they continually swoop on 'Cheap ' horses to gather the stakes. They own well over half of YOLE's runners. The owners have NO SAY where these horses race ( a REAL downfall on being in a syndicate instead of really racing a horse yourself) so ALL the Slow ones end up with YOLE and then at the greys as tucker. Summit Bloodstock now have spread to NZ and using Steven Reid (north) and Matty Williamson (South) . So a lot of small time folk in NZ are seeing their 'Pride and Joy' ultimately fail locally and make it to the Big time of Tasmania at YOLE's ? . NZer's are involved . so HRNZ should say something . have some balls and recommend some NZ Bloodstock groups or something better. Do this for the horses sake, the view of NZ owners and even Just for the sake of the reputation of the Sport ..
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Everyone was told to hush up about the leading galloper trainer too . Darren Weir . It was his own business. Why don't we use your idea and say 'Mind your own Business "?? Because we care About the horses Chief ( and in Yole's case the poor staff as well) they're involved in the industry we All love (or most of us) and we want to see Horses treated well and races conducted Fairly. I don't give a rat's arse about Tasmanian harness racing either , even though am from there . ( here's a photo of my granddad winning at Elwick (a fair while back lol 😂) General public don't give a rats arse about NZ harness either Chief. But ALL the participants do . And the Galah and I gave about 10 reasons why HRNZ should give an arse about it (the tasmanian situation) . Not the least reason being as Galah said A LOT of the horses come from NZ . we care what happens to them. even though as you say None of us Control it . But HRA and HRNZ should . (try and control it ?)
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Maradona / Rangatira ........both are AAA rated star players (and with three A's in the name ) . Both can 'handle' the pressure on the sports field ?. and can 'Kick ?' a goal should the Big occasion ask for it. 😅
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New Zealand horses often competes in Australia chief. the CEO has South Coast Arden competing here all year round now for example... Surely they need to know the Rules of Australian racing and have some input/comment on it at HRNZ ???? and if the rules are being compromised by anyone ( seems by the countries leading Trainer no less) What is happening in Tasmania should be of HUGE interest.? It's very close to home ? Auckland to Hobart 2422 km , closer than Brissy at 2500km lol. so take some action Chief. Tell them you (repping for nz harness reputation) are Not Happy with it. Who wants this stuff happening on your back door-step ? Speak up and show disapproval . Politicians do that with each other all the time. we want 'Horse Welfare' and stable conditions ...and fair un-tainted racing to be a Priority. Hopefully racing New Zealand spoke out against Darren Weir? and ALL the jiggers were thrown away so that sort of thing No Chance of happening again in Nz and Australia ? the administrators really need to take a stand against some things !!!🏇 fair play and happy healthy horses is what we need .... in both countries.
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A couple of Days on and All Yoles horses are scratched tonight in Hobart too. It's almost a TABOO topic. The live coverage from Melton on TV didn't mention it . The Tasmanian reporter on the Australian AHR website didn't mention it. Just said there was 2 Walkovers from all the scratchings in his report of the nights racing. Ben Yole is warned off All courses . The report is damning . It's A HUGE Story but everyone is Ignoring it lol. I guess some things make the honest participants squirm and they just can't face it. He had 7 disgruntled employees reporting stuff 😳. Must of been a pleasure to work for/with ? Not. Can you imagine the Impact in New Zealand if the leading Trainer (Telfer or Dunn) was warned off for systematic fixing races with numbers of runners, and other horse welfare issues ?? It would be Huge. Aaron Bain supplying horses should be embarassed (by their care after) I guess with B.Yole , everyone sort of knew this day would come. He didn't change his ways much from the TV report on ABC aired 8 months ago anyway, so a forced shut-down of his operation, seems the best option for the integrity of the sport. Bloke never won Metro races anyway ,not even in slow old Tasmania, and was ONLY the leading Trainer in Australia because of 'Stacking very low class Races ' with 10 to 12 runners quite often.... the sport will NOT miss this sort of treatment of horses and belittlement of the sport , hope he never returns .
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He certainly has a bit more smoothing out to do. Don't Stop Dreaming is one Terrific horse though. Only just turned 4 and Mark has taken on the Interdominion Champion already and did very well last night. Was throwing the head about in the Big NZ Derby in December too. and was closing late exactly like the photo above to Merlin in that as well, after a wide run to the death seat as well. Natalie Rasmussen would be proud of her 'boys' in the Hunter Cup Quinella. She was once married to the Trainer driver of the winner Grant Dixon. Mark showing less commitment for a while lol 😆
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Mark Purdon nearly took out the Hunter Cup Saturday night. Don't Stop Dreaming very close at the end. If it had been 2 miles like it used to be in the Hunter Cup when Blossom Lady was winning it a couple of times , he would of caught LEAP TO FAME and taken the victory for New Zealand. Don't Stop Dreaming a great long term NZ Cup prospect. Grimson Won the 4 yearold Bonanza tonight too. with a Queenslander he acquired recently . Punted 100-1 into 6-1 to Win the $2,000,000 Eureka this year. that was before Frankie Ferocious had his first start for the GRIM one tonight. Might be even shorter now . Go Grimmo !!!
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It's a standing start mate. What if it gallops away ? What's the chances of breaking gear in a one horse race ? hahaha😂
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There obviously plenty of credit to your arguement . Some stablemates get right of passage more than others on occasion. I'm NOT a fan of the scenario of a 'bunny' . i.e one used to force the pace, hold the lead against rivals at all costs , that sort of thing. Actually was discussing a case the other day where Madrid at her last start in the Group 1 2 yearold fillies on Derby Day, was used up a bit by Sam Ottley in the run and she was looking for Mark to come round with Treacherous Baby a lap out . was a bit of a bunny I thought. Mark run down by Duchess Megxit in the end . I'll tell you what though , even when Emma has a fair few in those Group races , she uses a variety of drivers including several Lady drivers (One of them winning that Victoria Cup too) and they all seem to drive their own race without any concession to stablemates. I haven't spotted anything dubious , and got a pretty good eye for it. (IMO 😁) And in fairness to YOLE, he uses a variety of young and senior drivers and the few Tassie races I have watched , I can't spot any giving help to stablemates blantantly either . I've seen no actual 'helping' another if you know what I mean. They are probably just doing the best they can to get the horse around the course and not get banished back to the trials for poor performance😂.
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I look at those races and I don't see it . The Vic Derby comes round each year , as well as Vic bred, and Breeders crown , and those sort of races with qualifying heats. Emma will have 2-3 runners per heat. Her Stable has great stock (like Allstars and now Barry Purdon too with the Entain CEO buying horses for him like Merlin ) so these mobs set the horses for these type of races run top 6 in the heats , then top 6 in the semi's , so are All usually in the finals. Good horse PETRACCA won the Vic Derby for them . And Emma got the FIRST 4 in the Vic Oaks from memory on TV. Vic Cup night . (she won that too beating Leap To Fame) so NOTHING wrong with supporting Emma Stewart , Allstars or Big Barry's runners. Why ? because they Always give you a run for the Money . always. no matter how many from their stables are in the race. And they are quality races too. YOLE ? you are very lucky if you get a run for your money . horses are flat out to run 2 minutes MR. you couldn't possibly support them . some backwater low class slop races...Punters wouldn't look at them.... or as Walt said earlier here... you couldn't ethically support them either.
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you're sort of wrong mate . The races where Emma gets a third of the field and sometimes half are because they Qualified for them . Semi -Finals and Finals . so they have to start. In a general nuts and bolts race Emma just has one or 2 the same as anyone else might . YOLE doesn't go for Qualifying for any big races. Just loads the Nuts and Bolts races with slow horses. Apparently their is still Betting on them . ? so they still run them ? How ? I couldn't possibly invest a cent on Yole runners ...
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They qualify a big chunk of the field in the Sires Stakes races each year. They set their horses for those Group 1 races , Oaks , Derbies etc and qualify as many as they can because they are good at it. So don't agree with the Galah about Stewart multiples. So I don't see a bad look at all myself. Group 1 racing with the best horses in it . Fabulous. I've just been arguing with someone at another station about Tim Williams , apparently rigging the Marlborough Cup for John Dunn to Win . John Dunn did win it and Dunn's probably had a few in it and ..... Instant Waaalaaa . stablemates accused of collaberation. Someone Didn't like the Look of it lol. BTW Tim Williams did nothing wrong IMO. Marlborough Cup. Happens all the time with stablemates in a race though.. . Yole has 10 of the 12 runners in a lot of races 😳.... so that LOOK is quite Bad as far as collaberation goes, no way could it be run 'Every man for himself ' . just a sham really.
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Very sorry for your loss of racing stock to injury Yankeeman. Maybe get a pacer ? they race year after year and career ending injury quite rare. Might be different with thoroughbreds. Your awful injury toll had me looking at the list of stable horses that trained over a five year period from stables where I participated . They (horses) do get strain on flexor tendons and we tend to rub linament on and/or use poultice occasionally , but of the 4 , I can remember with tendon and suspensory issues , 3 of them continued to race . only one bowed and didn't I can think of (list of about 100 horses) Standardbreds race around 30mph compared to the greys and thoroughbreds at 40- 45 mph so are much Less likely to hurt themselves . And it's a LOT of FUN. !!🏆😄
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Absolutely disgusting what is happening. Aaron Bain should hang his head in shame too , supplying all the 'penny a share horses' . All they are doing is milking the Tas prizemoney for whatever they can get out of it. There's no love of the horse .. or fun racing.. he's not even trying to get in any feature races . Thankfully the RSPCA has been called a few times by concerned neighbours and they have found the horses to all have adequate nutrition and rugs etc. The tongue tie story is quite Awful but just a terrible accident. makes you feel sick that one though. The wash bay whipping with ear-plugs and blinds is almost terrifying. Can you imagine trying to wasy your horse after a race that has been through that procedure??. It would swing around madly in fear , everytime the hose touches him/her as you're moving about washing them . they would be that nervous it would be shameful thinking of what they're been through. ANYONE who loves a horse would NEVER do that. Shut the place down .Tas harness racing is Beyond POOR. Yole Having All (or nearly all) the runners in a Race = race fixing (or near race fixing ) as you couldn't help but influence the race result if All from one stable in so many races week in week out . Just Shameful this allowed to happen. Integrity Zero % ????
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Maybe get some dogs with shorter legs. 8 Dachshunds charging up the straight after a hot dog on a remote control car can't come to any injury grief could they ? no corners, would take 30 seconds the same as a greys race. and Hungriest dog Wins !! grandma's would drop out of trees to get to the races to see those bad-boys run.
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wow , they are the best looking horses I have ever seen at sales. they look bigger and stronger as each year goes by. fantastic. Just meant did they get a racing name ? and race/trial yet. Was wondering how they did in training . thought you might of recognised the breeding being so expensive .
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Hey Chief any idea who the top 2 lots are on the track from 2021 - 2022 sales you're showing ? A $800k Zoustar and the $1 mill Savabeel out of Chandelier?
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Breaking News: ARC may not race at Ellerslie on 17 February
Gammalite replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
hahaha must say though Chief it's pretty darn bumpy with the wheels. Had a crack at Hawera on the grass in the shadows of Mt egmont and it was softish , so the wheels didn't hit the hoof holes in the surface under the grass with too much bang , but was rough as guts. You got No Idea mate.......and the track at Arawa Park Rotorua was that firm , you nearly bounced right out of the gig. Had to hook the foot right through the footrest so it grabbed my ankles just to stay in the cart. was awful race. never forget it. Prayed for rain but none came. would of loved a slippery wet surface with some give in it lol 😆 -
Breaking News: ARC may not race at Ellerslie on 17 February
Gammalite replied to Chief Stipe's topic in Galloping Chat
Ellerslie looked great opening day when Merchant Queen won. The track must of been tested ? in wet and dry leading up to that with trials and that ? how do find out on race day a surface is slippery or not.?.... must of known in the lead up always a bit drizzly in Auckland and/so surely Top speed horses were tried on it while wet ? I think a race day with the very best around , going as fast as they can , are going to have the odd bit of knuckle and bump in these BIG events anyway. some are going to struggle with footing to keep up with them no matter what the conditions. there is Contact as well in high pressure races popping them off balance . quite a bit (contact) in nz racing that i see Saturdays too. -
too good mate . it's like being Sunny's sister trying to beat you , Sundees RangaSon. too big too strong.😄 The 'Tornado' winning here at Timaru I think in one of his NZ wins. Tornado Valley. One of the true great's Had about 50 starts in Aus, nearly all Group races, for 30 wins for the dynamo Kate Gath. She jumped off him just once , and Luke McCarthy drove him in the Great Southern Star 2 years ago just before the Tornado's retirement. Kate Won that race too (with Majestuoso) and the Tornado retired winning a Million 💰. What a Star . !!!! He did win 2 Great Southern Star's himself afterall 😂 Ruby's Jewel has her first foal at the races now . Just ran 3rd in the Cambridge Group 3 tonight. Majestic Ruby .