curious

I think he's too busy trying to work out the pen readings on Saturdays and recovering from the effort on Sundays.

Yeahh, I'd stick with the SP bookie like Turny, wally. Can bet on credit too, so don't need EFTPOS. They seem to have made a come back.

I'm probably wasting my time trying to help you Thommo, but the fact is that when you punt you are basically competing with all the other punters out there. They all have the same information. Unless you somehow have access to info that most others don't, any additional info such as the stuff you keep going on about will also be available to all the competing punters so will give you no advantage when you assess a horse's chances against the available price. What part of this are you not getting? Since the pen readings you want are available in OZ, does that make your punting on Oz races more successful than on NZ races where they are not?

He'd probably simply like to know all the winners before the off.

Yes, that's a hell of a strike rate for first time Lasix. Might be just a bit of a precaution here though since it's legal. I like the horse but quite hard to assess. I thought he was well overs at 25/1 but wouldn't back him now at 12/1. I see the NZTAB has woken up and offered a market at a very generous 125%. 1 Justify 1.80 2 Free Drop Billy 34.00 3 Bravazo 9.00 4 Hofburg 5.50 5 Restoring Hope 34.00 6 Gronkowski 13.00 7 Tenfold 13.00 8 Vino Rosso 9.00 9 Noble Indy 34.00 10 Blended Citizen 21.00

I thought he relaxed pretty nicely into his work there for his first time on the track. Looks the part to me. Just a question of getting the right trip and getting the 1 1/2 miles I suppose.

de Lore also obviously needs to re-take his Year 3 maths class on percentages.

Yes, that's not even what the NZRB's own 2018 size and scope report says. GDP is not mentioned in relation to that dreamed up number, and much of that is from nothing to do with racing: In 2016/17, the New Zealand Racing industry generated total direct spending of $1,205.8 million. This expenditure was responsible for creating a direct value-added impact (in terms of wages, salaries and profits) of $611.0 million. However, the flow-on effects linked to this expenditure increase the size of the industry’s value-added contribution to over $1.6 billion. Direct expenditure is defined as expenditure associated with producing foals and pups (breeding & rearing), preparing racing horses and greyhounds (training), racing customer expenditure and expenditure by NZRB, the three codes of racing and racing clubs on operating the industry. Direct expenditure is counted at the point at which it leaves the racing industry and reaches the broader economy. 2 Value-added contribution is defined as the value of sales less the value of inputs used in production, i.e. it is equal to the income (wages, salaries and profits) generated in production 3 Household Income is defined as being wages and salaries (before tax) earned from employment generated by the racing industry

https://waikatostud.com/messara-report-will-mean-short-term-pain-for-long-term-gain/

So what? It's pretty simple I would have thought. Why would you bet on a track like that? I wouldn't.

What impact will this have on global wagering markets I wonder?

No, but someone told me I was half cut last night.

Gone a bit dull in the coat eh?

Will the 3rd leg of 2018 Triple Crown be run in the mud at Belmont? By Alex Sosnowski, AccuWeather senior meteorologist June 06, 2018, 1:37:14 AM EDT This year's Belmont Stakes and 13th quest for horse racing's Triple Crown may be a close call between rain and sunshine. Saturday will mark the 150th running of the Belmont States at Belmont Park, Elmont, Long Island, New York. Following the storm that brought downpours to end the first weekend of June in the New York City area and Belmont Park, the next chance of drenching rain will occur this weekend. Whether or not it pours around race time at 6:37 p.m. EDT, Saturday, June 9, as Justify seeks to become the 13th Triple Crown winner will depend on the speed of the next storm. At this time it appears that heavy, steady rain will hold off until Saturday night or Sunday on Long Island. However, any increase in forward speed of that storm may mean a wet outcome for the race. "There is the chance of a shower popping up ahead of the main storm this coming weekend," according to AccuWeather Senior Meteorologist Brett Anderson. A boundary between cool air over New England and warm, humid air over the central Appalachians could unleash spotty showers ahead of the main storm along the upper mid-Atlantic coast on Saturday afternoon and evening. "Belmont has a sandy consistency to the track and drains very well," according to AccuWeather Meteorologist Brian Thompson. "In order for sloppy conditions to occur for the 2018 Belmont Stakes, it would have to pour right before or during the race," Thompson said. If it manages to pour early Saturday evening, it will end up being soggy for all three legs of the triple crown. Training and running horses in prolonged wet weather can raise the risk of a hoof injury, according to the Horse.com. Jockey Martin Garcia works Triple Crown hopeful Justify at Churchill Downs in Louisville, Kentucky., Tuesday, May 29, 2018. (AP Photo/Garry Jones) While some horses, such as Justify, seem to handle the wet weather, other horses may not run as well with mud being splattered in their face. Mud may also increase the risk of a horse slipping. Mud may even out some of the competition but cause other horses to fall well off the pace. Both the Kentucky Derby and the Preakness were run in the mud in 2018. The 2018 Kentucky Derby was the wettest on record with more than 3 inches of rain. Rain fell every day for a weak leading up to and including the Preakness at Pimlico in Baltimore. The last horse to win the Triple Crown was American Pharoah in 2015. Prior to 2015, there were no Triple Crown winners since the 1970s, when Affirmed (1978), Seattle Slew (1977) and Secretariat (1973) won. Secretariat holds the speed record for all of the three Triple Crown races, including the world record on dirt for 1.5 miles set at Belmont. In lieu of any rain on Saturday evening, there should be enough space between rain events to allow the track to drain off on/by Saturday in what should be an exciting race. A repeat of the week-long downpours experienced at Baltimore leading up to the Preakness is not anticipated. High temperatures most days this week will be in the 70s F at Belmont. The warmest day is likely to be on Friday, when temperatures may top 80.

Doubt Justify will lead. Restoring Hope will be the rabbit won't he? Think they'll want the pace on and give him something to run at.

No. I don't think the Princess can read. Thommo certainly can't.

Hmmm....Gronkowski into 12's ....

How can you know what's overs until you know the track conditions? Guess?

"a percentage of their GI Belmont S. earnings" Well meaning, but a bit arrogant isn't it ahead of them actually earning anything from the race?

Can they only afford two sets of goggles for winter racing these days? That said, the fact that some horses may not like being sandblasted during the running is a variable that may be difficult to assess and discourage punters.

Why would you run a quarter horse in a 1 1//2 mile race I wonder?

True. That's what I was thinking. 5% maybe? The money doesn't go to racing though, it goes to Govt in Vic as it should it seems, so very different from what is proposed here. It will get a test in the interim anyway because presumably it can't be effected at least until the end of the "no new taxes" term.

It appears to have been set at 8% and comes into effect in 2019. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-14/victoria-announces-consumption-tax-for-online-betting/9758116