Karrots

No idea there Mikey, but think the 2 grass track days at Hawera would be great to get back in full without a mini-meeting.

Oh I see ok Brodie Gets Paid BGP. But poor Brodie often getting picked on 😔 Anyway below is current qualifying Top 12 on stakes looking at age group comparisons, obviously this will change. Pacers 2y-o fillies $3,875 2y-o boys $2,862 3y-o fillies $17,537 3y-o boys $35,805 4y-o fillies $20,625 4y-o boys $31,837 Trotters 2y-o $400 3y-o $11,439 4y-o $18,425

Not sure what you mean there Ranga. But was thinking gosh, its a good way for a small club to make some dough, getting to host it, checking out the packages/ticket prices. General admin is $25, was wondering if they plan to have those outdoor heaters around the place for those. Pretty chilly in winter. Thats the only downfall.

Thought Id start a positive thread with something to look forward to. Saw Cambridge as usual are doing a fab job with marketing. Very #ontoit They had a bunch of people out in weekend, at a golf tourney handing out ice-cream to promote the Jewels. The packages they have look fab and are on sale now & also they have an area TBA for that Group Boys Get Paid think it is. How exciting it is for owners & trainers, if they are aiming for the Jewels to get stake money to earn a spot. Will need to up-date the 2y-o Jewels for fun page too closer to time. This thread can be to post on the Jewels and Jewels news moving forward. Great to see its on after being canceled last year.

Ok Chief, fair enough, you are very tolerate. Imagine if one of us regulars joined up over there & behaved like that there. I suspect they would chase that person off, or have words with them and rightly so. Doubt they would tolerate it. There is room for both sites anyway. Gives different personality types choices too & some can be on both. Anyway moving on.

JJ what are you up to? Come on here to inject insults and toxicity, then creep back over to RC to post nicely & copy what has already been posted here first re Lamb start (Ranga’s post) & Johnny Nevitas (Ranga).

Ok bugger. Tried to rack brain again as to what article it may have been under & thought maybe Messara Report news in Aug 2018. Remember reading that & that would explain lots of comments. But comments have been closed & looks like they have removed all comments too. Googled why & said something like they try to encourage social media comments now & too many negative comments in general under media articles so fazed out. This latest article is on that horse scratched you guys talking about on another thread, Jesse name in so counts. It's just about like they are F...king with us.

Just did this again and lookie lookie what do I see? The correct answer is 3 days so winner was 0-4 days. So Karrots misses with 5-9 day guess. That makes it 6 articles by Press now & 8 total combined with Star, treking towards that 10.

Ok yeah, had only just started following harness that year & didn’t really pay a heap of attention to it. Just thought ok that is interesting. Wonder what they are talking about. Remember it was mid way down ish thru the comments section. There were a number of comments too, but that is all I can re-call. It was either Stuff or Herald, Newshub etc 1 of those media that accepted comments. And it is the only comment I can remember from all the comments. Reading your inside job - comment triggered the memory. Unfortuntely can not post the link to the article with the comment to show. As can’t find it. Someone may have read it too. Be interesting to find it tho.

Did anyone else, read a comment (you know how people were able to post anonymous comments under articles), it said something along the lines of “a small few are ruining it for others, but things will be changing soon or exposed soon”. something along those lines. It was a Harness related article, but INCA had not yet been announced to public. There were quite a number of comments too. But this particular comment stood out to me. Then approx 1-3 weeks after I read this comment, saw breaking news INCA thing announced. Tried searching for article to re-read the comment last nite, but as don’t remember name of article or what article was about other than Harness or which mainstream media it was, exact date etc, couldn’t find it. I remember telling someone about comment when INCA was announced, Their response was, “well they obviously had inside word”.

And then there are some that don't need any booze to post gibberish on a regular basis lol. Not meaning you Ranga

Sorry forgot to include the Star too. As a comparison, the Star have only 2 which is far more reasonable in my eyes. So actually combining the 2 together we are at a count of 7 articles in what approx 6 ish weeks so far. 10 is actually looking quite likely. https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-sport/star-racing/canterbury-trainer-facing-horse-doping-charges https://www.odt.co.nz/star-news/star-sport/star-racing/harness-racing’s-heartland-blighted-raids-and-unsavoury-publicity (included in article)

Did a super quick google search, found 5 articles relating to Jesse or his name repeat info. 5 so far, yes that is right 5. As I said OTT. But hey if some think that 5 & counting articles on the same topic are ok to go thru mainstream news on a trainer (note this is not a top trainer or driver) that is tots fine too. As you say Galahs potentially more to come. Maybe they are aiming for 10 articles on him. They are 1/2 way there. Maybe I could add some odds to (how many articles will be on Jesse in the next 6 months in new fun guessing game 😁). 1. https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/racing/124509419/harness-racing-trainer-charged-after-he-was-caught-injecting-horses 2. https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/124368208/harness-racing-trainer-suspended-after-being-caught-in-suspected-horse-doping-scandal 3. https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/racing/124392505/several-canterbury-harness-racing-trainers-suspected-of-doping-horses (jesses name is at the top of this etc) 4. https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/124430317/police-investigating-complaint-about-young-harness-racing-trainer-mitchell-kerr (scroll down & jesse’s case is also included in this) 5. https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/racing/124580114/horses-involved-in-alleged-doping-scandal-back-racing-again

Odds are out Galahs come on, join in on the fun & make a debut for 1 of Karrots guessing games 😄

No one replied to this Horace, Thinking grass track racing in North may just make a comeback ... , That just guess as from the very first draft initial cut to now, eg Manawatu, think a couple mini grass Otaki, Boxseat, & now radio have all made there way back. So going by that indication, one would think that they would be pushing for more grass racing in future in North .... ?

Forbs there you are. Hunts and I were looking for you on another thread. Wanting to know which trainer you would chose for the fun BOAY horse you suggested end of last year? No need to tell us which one you wouldn't have 😉

What is this, stink they didn’t even wait for me to get the odds up today for our new guessing game. They just ploughed ahead. After having to do an update here are the new re-vamped out, Can you correctly pick the next timeframe when next negative article from either Press/Star on Harness will be out? Here are your odds? 0-4 days $5 5-9 “ “ $2.5 10-14 “ “ $3.5 15-19 “ “ $4 20-24 “ “ $7 25-29 “ “ $20 30+ “ “ $50 Karrots selection is going for the shorts 5-9 days @ $2.5

Checking out the Jewels - HOSPITALITY OPTIONS & looks like some great options available, noticed this too, BGP area - great views, reserved for the future of NZ Racing! Details coming soon. #ontoit

Ok, that was just how I saw it when watching. Everyone sees things differently. But I just thought oh dear this could be a prob, come the finish. Early musical chairs (mini-kamikazi driving was what I said, not full kamikazi) & I was bearing in mind the fact they are early 2 y-os with few starts. Time will tell if they are just inferior or not. But that was how I viewed it at first glance without checking times 😁

Watched replay of this before reading this on here. My thought was at the bell the 1st 3, had probably just set it up for the back 3. Too much mini kami-kazi styles early. The result indicted such. Whether that is because they are inferior horses or not, who knows, maybe, time will tell. And yes 1 horse got dragged back unfortuntely by the tiring leader.

Hey Basil, How are you doing today? Interesting who do you mean here? Learning, don’t know much, read something from Forbs posts of Blue Magic or something, did they not get done for that or do you refer to something else? Was that thru the news at time or no? I don’t know so ask. Honest yes, but repetitive & OTT. 3-4 articles on the same subject. Maybe murderers get the same coverage, apologies for making the comparasion, but I just couldn’t really think of anything else to compare that may get same coverage. Take burglars, do they get 3-4 articles of their offence in media or just 1 or none? Then bringing up old cases on top of that, that have already been well publicised, yet they attach it to latest stories. Why is it they are doing that? Yes I get that that seems to be thing they are allowed to do, but I feel they just do it to put the boot in. (Which is what some of us are trying to point out). Does every burglar gets his/her name mentioned again mostly every time there is another burglary? What is the deep systematic prob. I don’t know maybe you are onto something. What do you mean? Anyway I have just decided to agree to disagree. There are 2 view-points here. And that is fine. Who knows who’s view-point is right. But I feel 1 side is putting words in the other sides mouth. (We are not siding with the accused, no that is not the case, nor are we saying that none of it should be out in the public). Good debate tho. Good to have 2 sides 2 voices. Personally I do not think this will go away in a hurry. Think this is potentially go on for another 6-12 months minimum re Press/Star. When I read Stuff news now main page, I scroll all the way to the bottom, to the other regions & look to see if there is “Harness” word in any of The Press titles. Thats how I found this latest 1. Why am I doing that? Perhaps, because now I am conditioned to expect something negative weekly, even if its just a re-hash or similar. (AND that is the point/issue raised here). Anyway I said I wouldn’t comment on any other news article arrgh yikes and here I go again. Sorry team. Figure tho, if they are allowed to just repeat, repeat, repeat same or similar thing, and have people defend that then why can't Karrots lol (cheeky monkey). Galah gets our side of view point, as he has stated to a degree so, and started a topic called how to deal with negative media. I also get your guys side the other side of the debate too. You want things publicised, which I agree with to an extend. How it is currently is in my opinion way OTT.

Reading he and his partner have been charged by RIU. Gosh hoping moving forward this is the last for a very long time. Can only hope.

The new colours are up now. Also noticed Mr Ibiza sold & stable changed. Looks like that turned out to be a good weanling sale purchase for Hollis 👍

Oh you must of missed my apology to all on the other thread, said I was being a bit silly and getting carried away towards the end when posting yesterday. Yes moving on 👍

Hey Hunts, Oh gosh, no I will not share the bird story, nor anything more about it re how I found out. That is me being silly. Sorry about that. Eeck Newmarket and Ludwig and all. But yeah I am just interested to know if it is true or not. Interesting you hear more to be told. Yikes.