Brodie

How could you back it Hunter, the way it had been going? The fields are far better punting fields today than recently!!

There you go thats why it was so short lol. Paced like a drunken crab most of the race as if it had the pins still in. Weak field but a win is a win.

Does anyone have an answer for why Vesnina is so short today? Opened at $4.60into $3.60! Hes it is now trained by John Dun at the beach, but so short? Never shown anything on race day and is a maiden against race winners, event hough they are not much. Drawn the second row behind a horse that hasnt got great gate speed, and Vesnina always goes rough! Just wondering?

Geez, the only decent Barrett is Scott! Beauden can not kick to save himself and Jordie is certainly no winger!

To be fair William Wallace is a Mitch Kerr made horse! Lol

Give Mr Lamb a chance, he is still learning! Yeah needs to go from every track.

Certainly not a great look when Mitchell relinquished his license before being charged! Why does this Martin van Beynon have it in for Harness Racing does anyone know? I am sure there are many builders, butchers, sparkies etc. that are getting into trouble but nothing written about that as a froup!

To be honest it is not fair to pick on the new Minister of Foreign Affairs! The fact is that there is absolutely not one of the Labour party that is going to be successful with their portfolios! It is going to be an absolute train wreck which is going to have everyone one who voted for them wishing that they had not! As Chief posted, the fact that Ardern thinks that there is a climate change emergency and is a priority just shows what we have at the helm!!!!!!!

Chief, it sounds like you dont believe that we have a climate change emergency? Are you not scared to go outside in fear of being burnt from the terribly hot sun today? Reality is that many people have had the daylights scared out of them from Ardern and the virus that killed not a single person in NZ that had reasonable health! To keep the sheep scared and control people, it is time to continue with the BS and tell her followers about how bad things are going forward with climate affecting everyones life. FFS, it is high time that all her followers see what they are succumbing to! The most incompetent and controlling government of all time

No doesnt worry me either way Mikie, point being is that it is a bit rich coming from you, calling the Brodster clueless! Lets leave it there as can not be bothered with you calling me clueless, as it has upset me greatly!!

Chief, I do not say anything to score personal points! If anyone was being personal it was not me, It was very hurtful and upsetting to be told that I had no clues! I do not need to be accruing points for anything, I have already amassed enough points for my own good! If someone thinks they need to be calling me clueless to take points from my total, then I will certainly be defending that! Was there any need for someone to call me clueless when what I was doing was questioning the tote divs?

Because I personally feel that if someone wants to call me clueless, then I will take that on board, and then offer some advice back!

Chief, am I allowed to say at least I am allowed on a race course?

Clueless and law abiding Mikie!!

Mikie, just shows that clueless and law abiding people can be very successful financially and otherwise! Intelligence is over rated obviously

Geez, why do people bet on the tote?

The no.s do not add up Mardi Gras! The first race was the pool without any take and the last race had approx. 15.5% taken out! Anyway, can not understand any serious punter offloading on the tote!!

Lol. Interesting name you use Mardi Gras! So what is the pool amount that they display? Is it the total amount of money on the tote, inclusive of the TAB takeout or not??

Very confusing really! The first race that had $74 in the win pool totals up to the $74 and not $74 minus 15.5%????? The last race that had $780 in the win pool had the $780 minus the 15.5% taken out for the tote divs So what is it?

Yes totally clueless! Clueless but at least batting for the right team! Why on earth do they falsify the amount of the pool by saying it is $780 when in fact that is not the pool that the tote dividends are paid out of ???????? On the basis of those divs if they are taking out 15.5% then they still look a bit odd with the favourite having roughly $536 of the $671 after take out invested on it, 80% to 20% for the rest of the field?

With respect, Bollacks. Are you saying that the tote pools show the whole amount of the betting and then they taking out 15.5%? I think the take out is actually higher than that in total isnt it? The numbers do not make sense for the amount in the win pool! I can not really be bothered debating it too much and I do not bet tote anyways!

You are miles off Mikie There is $780 in the win pool so you are talking rubbish! There were 9 horses in the race. It is bollacks with horses paying over $300 to win.

There have always been stories in harness racing going back generations about harness trainers. I have been told many times over the years about horses not being worked as often as they should be and yet owners still get full bills! Many trainers didnt welcome owners out to watch the horse work without plenty of notice so they could dust the horse off and get it ready. This sounds like a far worse case and not looking overly promising for him unfortunately

Mikie, so now you must agree with the Brodster that the odds displayed on the tote is just a load of BS!!!!!!