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Wishful thinking Happy!

Basil, great to have you on with your wisdom! Solution Basil is for them to piss off to Australia but that is not going to happen as the Ozzie’s wouldn’t put up with long term! Bitching is allowed on forums Basil if you weren’t aware of it! You may be happy with what is going on but I can tell you now that most aren’t! May not affect you at all Basil, and it certainly doesn’t affect me financially either, but I am majorly concerned for the harness racing industry in the next few years, for the ones that are involved!

Does it really take 3 presenters giving their opinions and wanking on about The AllStars to pick $1.30 winners???? Seriously these Premier meetings are putting punters off harness racing and going on about the one stable race after flippen race is just boring! Auckland Premier Harness is stuffed if all we are going to get is these under$2 winners race after race, and there won’t be horses racing against the AllStars! This domination from one stable plundering the major stake money is doing massive damage to harness racing in NZ unlike anything else. You can have your head in the sand and be saying that it is great to watch good horses but if this continues there will not be enough horses around to race in a few years! Ask punters what they think of this domination and most will tell you that they have given up punting on these types of meetings.

Greg basically was sick of Michael Guerin booking on!! Personally not sure how paying for 3 Trackside presenters is money well spent! Michael Guerin wanking on about the AllStars all night is downright boring and when they pay $1.30 to win, it is mind numbing and a waster of time!

Yankiwi,, no the Stipes were not right at all!, Yes they made a decision that to anyone with any level of intelligence could see was the wrong one! How on earth can anyone now have confidence in the Stipes in the future? It was an absolute shocker and there are many others as well which have been clearly evident as well! Mr Ydgren O.G. ten appears on Trackside waffling on about horses due to race about whether they in season or different tactics etc. which is fine, but I would prefer that he could make intelligent decisions and Mr Ydgren an co. Did not last night. You just can’t defend incompetence!

I challenge someone from HRNZ to come on here and validate the decision made quickly last night!!! They won’t because they are a law unto themselves and can make blatantly stupid decisions and don’t answer to anyone! There has not been a single contributor that has said that the Stipes were correct, but you watch Ydgren will come out and defend it by saying it was the rules! Well Mr Ydgren you should have some damn common sense and if you think that what Mr Herlihy did last night was alright, then you should be sacked, as you are an absolute fool and in the wrong job! Maybe a circus job as a clown!,

Stipes your decision last not is totally wrong and if that is the best you can do then you should step down

Hunter, just telling it the way it is! Plenty of time to post as nothing worth investing on lol

This racing is easy. race 8 $1.40 win $1.00 $1.10 $1.0 You have to be kidding that 2 horses you get your money back for a place and the other one 10 cents. Yes brilliant for premier racing with such dominance. No use running these races, as we know the results

You are right Whiteman! Imagine if leading Canterbury trainers took horses up there as well there would be absolutely no stake money for the the CD horses.

Enjoying the fab racing from Auckland tonight, and the massive win divvies! $1.60 $1.80 $1.60 $3.40 $1.30 and $1.70 Gooooo yeeeeee haaaaa Go the mighty blue and silver, you are really inspirational and making everyone joyous about punting. This continuation of pathetic divvies and short Fixed Odds is doing nothing to retain punters let alone get increased turnover. This continues and South Island owners of Horses won’t bother sending their horses to Auckland due to having to run for a minor placing at best! As for a spectacle then the racing is so BORING! We know the odd one will be enjoying it but then he doesn’t even punt!!!!!

No doubt we will get Ydgren on TV with his condescending voice trying to explain to the uneducated why the horse wasn’t disqualified! The horse didn’t receive any advantage and Mr Herlihy took all efforts blah blah blah!!!! Mr Ydgren you effed up majorly and we know you will never apologise because the Stipes never do and yet they display no commonsense or fairness in many cases! I could name many cases where they have got things so wrong! Just as well they aren’t in our justice system or murderers would walk free!!!!

I know I probably shouldn’t say it, but I think I have to!! I believe that several of the Stipes In NZ are ex horsemen who could not make a go of a career in training or driving! So because of that Harness NZ has given them positions as stipendiary stewards, and after decisions like this tonight, some have failed at this as well! Whoever was the Stipes at Auckland tonight and made the decision to not disqualify Mr Yips should hang their heads in shame. Dont want to hear that they only followed the rules, which is absolute BS! That horse gained a damned advantage and if they couldn’t see this they shouldn’t be in the job!! Even Mickey Guerin and Whale beleived it was a bit of a no brainer that it had to go out! Auckland Stipes you showed the no brainer tonight with your decision!

The Racing Integrity Unit is a load of bollocks!! How on earth can you have any confidence that there is integrity with shite decisions coming from the top. Why don’t horses take a sjlrtcut across the middle of the track, you could say it wasn’t gaining an advantage. RIU your decision making is farcical too often for anyone to have confidence in you!

Pathetic performance by Chief Stipe Nick Ydgren at Auckland tonight! Mr Yips retained his first placing after going inside the marker pegs for at least 3 marker pegs and took another horses position! Anyone that defends this decision from the Stipes in Auckland need counselling! No, didn’t back anything, but a vote of no confidence in Ydgren is a must after that decision!!!! Did the Stipes know people who backed the horse??

To be fair Nowornever, I have been pretty quiet and easy on the Bookies over the past few months! I like to help the TAB increase their turnover, however they clearly are not listening! Their loss, not mine!

What the heck is that meant to mean. By offering odds less than they should be is stifling turnover, which stifles profit!!

Brando, I don’t invest on gallopers or dogs!

No such thing as being”fair” when it comes to the way the Bookmakers operate in Australasia. The limits that restricted punters have been given Is downright pathetic! Over the past 6 months or so I haven’t been very active on the punt as there is no real challenge for me due to the low amount being able to be collected and also the way less than fair opening odds on harness racing! Yes the TAB isn’t paying out as much to winning punters but I can almost guarantee it is costing them profit! The poor odds that are being offered is not enticing for either winning or losing punters to offload and how the TAB expects to increase turnover by doing this is baffling! Used to love the challenge with the Fixed Odds but now I have a look and most of the time I can’t be bothered! I also believe that the tote divs most of the time must also have punters questioning why they bother betting with the tote! No wonder the TAB agencies are being closed down!!!!

Happy Ye you are right about the pot holes in the asphalt. What is doing there, you would think that they would want the place presentable. Dunedins drinking water has always been crap as well and I believe many trainers take their own from ChCh rather than giving the horses Dunedin shite!

Just looked and Ben Hope is flying! 50 drives this season for 13 wins, 2 seconds and a 3rd! Major improvement since last season and has obviously matured. UDr of .3000 and I would think that 13 wins in 50 drives would have to be some record for Juniors!

Went to Forbury Thursday night meeting about a year ago. Was not really a highlight of my racing attendances on race courses. very few people apart from trainers and drivers. Food was crap. Think only 2 betting windows and operators were not on the young side and one didn’t even seem to know how to take Fixed odd bets that well! Went to Forbury reasonably often many years ago and enjoyed it, but you can see why not many now go! Unfortunately, it looks like Forbury could well be on oxygen!

I agree that it is always great for the owners to get a win with any horse! Point was that with the amount of turnover thru the punting compared to the stake money being paid, where does the money come from to be able to carry on racing? I believe that Forbury is pretty stuffed as well, owing plenty to the Dunedin Council etc.

Globe, can not see how they can possibly carry on the way things appear? They tend to race on a Tuesday afternoon and then Thursday night for the second day! There was bugger all in the pools today to support running a meeting at Palmy. We don’t get Fixed Odds betting figures from Bookies on any of the meetings so don’t know whether anyone is betting on fixed either. The way these meetings are currently going, Michael House could well win the premiership lol!

Happy, I have got no idea how they possibly can survive. The meetings are normally not on very good days of the week and the turnover is never flash! They surely must be losing money and totally be relying on being subsidised by other parts of the industry? Stake money of 9k and turnover win and place on average around 12k so the percentage the TAB would pay the club would be minimal then there is all the operating costs! Does anyone know how the Manawatu Harness is able to survive?