Brodie

Globe, that is so hurtful! I am a team player that speaks his mind, if that doesn’t work then tough!

Not the way he has started though! Full blinds need to be taken off and notified!

Don’t believe everything you hear Watson!

Greg, what a simplistic thing to say! Until everyone is on the same playing field, nothing is going to change!

Joe Kidd, you are a very intelligent person, and I couldn’t have said it any better! The only ones in NZ that would think that this juggernaut that plunders all the big stakes in NZ Harness Racing is good for harness racing, are either coneected with the stable or lacking intelligence!

Chestnut, I wouldn’t mind what you are on!! You are entitled to you opinion, but to post that is quite astonishing! Of course it is great to post the positive things in harness racing, however there are also many many things that are going on that is detrimental to the medium term co tinuation of harness racing! Pointless writing to HRNZ pointing out the errors of their ways as they are a law unto theirselves. Not going to book on about the many things that are currently wrong as everyone knows what Brodie thinks. If you are one of those that think that the AllStars are great for harness racing In NZ then you need to get your head out of the sand! I personally know not a single person involved in harness racing outside of the AllStars Stable that would suggest that the domination by the one stable of the major races is good for the industry! Would be great if HRNZ would take on board suggestions from people but they don’t tend to! We post our ideas on this site in the hope that they will at least consider our sjggestions and as you will know Brodie is always on the money! Great to have your contribution however.

Look reality is that The AllStars stables perform unbelievably well! Reality is that all other stables in NZ have very little chance of being able to win the races with the bigger stake money, if their are AllStar horses engaged and Mark and Nat are in the country, we all know that! Reality is that owners and trainers have got the stitch trying to beat the AllStars and that is gospel! Reality is that group racing is not what it used to be and is very boring as a spectacle nowadays and Cup Day is only good for the socialising rather than the racing! Reality is that punters are being turned off punting due to the domination! Reality is that owners outside that stable are dreaming if they think that they can make money racing anything but a very good horse in NZ, that is why they are getting sold Reality is that new owners are not coming into the industry and our Junior ranks would be very thin if it wasn’t for the females that are working in stables! Reality is that I love harness racing, but it is fact that most owners, trainers and punters would prefer that The AllStars stable was not dominating harness in NZ! Reality is that if it continues, harness racing is going to continue to deteriorate! I don’t knock the performance of that stable, just state the reality of fact!!!!

Brilliant, on The Box Seat tonight we are told that Natalie Rasmussen had stated that both of the horses, Elle MAC and Dream About Me had a virus prior to their last start and their red cell,count was out a bit! If this was the case then why wasn’t the punters told this prior to the horses racing and why were they lined up? They have worked at their best this week and should race at their best again!!!!!! Very interesting isn’t it that the horses had this virus while the mainstays are out of the country and then back in The country all is rosey again! Just saying lol!!!!!!

Would be 4550 if he was working at the AllStars stable

Reality is that Michael House does not perform outstandingly in Canterbury. The main reason that Michael House performs so well at Palmy is that the standard of horse racing up there is less than average! Any reasonable trainer in Canterbury that sends up an average horse to race up there, would also do very well! Yes we know there a few ardent supporters of the AllStars stable and we have to admire his dedication to his craft, hard work, selecting horses at sales, pillaging the best horses in work from other trainers etc. The biggest fan of the AllStars stable on the Darkside does not contribute a brass razoo to harness racing as he doesn’t own or punt etc. Yes Harness Racing will be dominated each and every year by the Allstars stable in NZ while they have horses racing here. It is not that they win plenty of races at all, it is the fact that they plunder the stakes of all the big stakes races and leaves a pittance to the rest of the owners and trainers in NZ! Will owners continue to want to breed, buy at sales or buy existing horses, paying big money to have horses trained for them in the hope that they get one good enough to hopefully pay for itself? No they won’t and the industry is going to continue to suffer! The TAB are aware that harness is struggling and not profitable for them, that is why they are wanting Sports betting to be their priority as it is profit making for them!

Guarantee there will be some big bets on the 2 horses coming out of the stable! How could anyone punt either of them on their last start runs? We all know why don’t we? Think both horses would be better placed racing in Oz!

NZ Harness Racing is looking up! If true it has made my Sunday!

The very few young trainers that are coming through are all doing a great job. They are clearly dedicated and keen to do well! We need a lot more to replace the oldies who don’t train forever. The young ones need support from owners to keep going and probably doing a good job due to their keenness. It must be hard for the oldies to get out of bed early 7 days a week in all weathers and do the same thing everyday for not a helluva lot to show for it! Dedication!!

Certainly doesn’t need your Fish and Chips, Ranga!

Ranga, don’t really believe that is how our legal system works in Nz!

Driving tactics! Thats not race fixing!

Mountain out of a molehill! Is discussing driving tactics,race fixing???? Costing the racing industry plenty, costing the tax payer plenty! Who is the winners out of this? Yep, lawyers.

Nat?

JJ aint that flash, going by the way he has started on BOAY!

Less of the idiot and more of the other!

Take your blinkers off, and look at what is happening! The stakes races are never full Fields nowadays and always dominated by the one stable. Most owners and trainers hate this domination by the one stable, and why wouldn’t they? Very hard for trainers to attract new owners which is going to affect the industry in the coming years as the oldies move on! It can not continue the way it is!

Greg, No they don’t win all the BIG races! They would win the majority of them that they compete in!!!! Very rarely do their horses get beaten in the big races and mostly fill the first few placings! We realise that you are a total supporter and that is your perogative, and I won’t knock that! What anyone with a vested interest in the game outside of the stable realise that the domination is not good, whether you like it or not!!!!

It is always good when the stake money is shared around different stables! Domination of anything is never great! Would be great if the bigger stakes races in NZ this year has winners coming out of many stables! Itmisnt going to happen, we all know that, and so the deterioration in harness racing will continue unfortunately! Sad, but very true, and becomes a yawn fest to most except the very few AllStar flag bearers!!,

CP, wasn’t going to debate about it with you, as I know you will be pretty busy! I realise that the TAB bought into this new platform to try and increase turnover thru increased sporting betting! It has been brought in and obviously has got teething problems that we would expect there to be some. However, you would have thought that many of the complaints about the system would have been addressed prior to it being rolled out? Hopefully the TAB improves things and retains its existing client base as well as attracting new punters whether it be racing or sports bettors!!!

Raphoe!