Brodie

Tonkatime, What was the bet? was it a 4K win bet on harness racing?????? Yes you can get plenty on sports betting! Yes you can get money on Gallops no problem! Yes they take win bets on harness racing well aware Do they take plenty from winning punters who bet on harness??? No they don’t unless they have changed their rules! Gopefully they have.

Meant it was commonsense for Oamaru club to go to The allweather track early!

Common sense really! Well done.

I also agree that if a mare has returned a positive to being in foal, then there should be some onus on the trainer to advise the punters, early enough before they offload! What is the point just befire the race? In Oz they always advise change of driving tactics! Here very often there are a change in tactics but nothing is ever said. I don’t believe that HRNZ will enforce this, as it involves a bit of work, and it js also easier to leave as is and just ensure that drivers don’t use the whip more than 10 times!

Flagship, as a punter I like the passing lane, as I would hate to not get a run when in the trail. Auckland Racing as a spectacle is a bit non existent and with the Auckland Cup meeting coming up, it is not going to be any better due to the one stable dominance.

Auckland Harness is extremely boring nowadays. You can’t come from the back, and most drivers apart from the leading ones just sit until the straight!

Rangatira, less of the old please! Merry Xmas to you as well old fellah!

I meant if the odds are not right don’t bother

Happy, you are correct, everyone has their own methods. I never take erotics, bugger I meant exotics!!! To consistently make money you need to put in effort and have ability to assess horses and drivers. I know people who do put in plenty of effort but don’t make money. Plenty of people can back plenty of winners but to consistently win, you can not be betting on every race. Pick and choose and if the odds are right, then don’t bother! The TAB rely on the mug punters to make money and that is why successful punters are heavily restricted!

At least you wouldn’t lose money Newmarket when YOU don’t wager! Once the TAB begins to make it fairer to the punter I will be back in! At the end of the day Newmarket, they need punters so they can make money, whereas I don’t, so they are the losers!!

To be fair the TAB have made it much harder nowadays as the odds that they offer on opening are generally less than fair, so doesn’t encourage early investing! When they do lenghthen out it tends to be too late unless you are sitting at the TAB or oncourse. Providing you put the time in, it isn’t hard to make money on harness racing !

This Punters Lounge is meant to be designed to increase the wagering on Harness Racing apparently. What I suggest NZ TAB to do this, is to lift betting restrictions on punters! After all it is nearly Xmas time! Please advise us when the restrictions have been taken off!!

Professional punting Andrew? I am sure with extra time on your hands you would do fine, until they try to shut you down! Must admit your HRNZ tips weren’t too bad on most occasions, and I am sure things will work out fine for you as you are pretty entrepreneurial!

Extremely quiet on the investing in recent times Newmarket, as I just can’t be bothered with poor odds and restrictions, it just not worth my time although I do,have too much spare time now! If I can get decent amounts on and the odds are reasonable then I will be back in!! What I don’t like about the punters comp is the compulsion to have to wager on every single race! To my mind that is not the best way of investing but rules are rules And you have to run with them! Well done to everyone that participated and all the best to the winners when they go to Vegas, It will be a very difficult challenge punting on those damn gallopers and especially when you have no idea on how the horses run! Be a great trip though!

I think it is great that the TAB were taking all bets! Why don’t they do this all year round, rather than treating their customers like criminals ? Yes I will be in boots and all next year if they are going to allow all bets!!!!

Reality is that the current whip rule is blatantly stupid. Reality is that Jamie did give Copperhead Rose an absolute hammering with the whip and was swinging and hitting as hard as I have seen in quite awhile, and only got a warning! Reality is that many drivers have been charged and found guilty for not being as hard on their horse as Jamie was! Reality is that Copperheads Rose only won because of Jamie’s vigorous use of the whip! Reality is that the whip does make horses run faster and for longer without doubt! Without the whip horses like Gammalite and Pure Steel would not have been champions!!!! From a punting perspective I want my driver to be using the whip to a certain degree to get the best out of the horse that I have invested on! Reality is that the current rule needs amending to make it fair for everyone, and the no. of hits is not the correct answer!

Absolute fence sitter!!!

Totally irrelevant as to previous transgressions! The point is that the rule is blatantly stupid! Drivers have been charged for doing a helluva lot less harm to their horse than what Jamie Keast would’ve done yesterday to Copperhead Rose! There should never have been a number attached to the whip use and yesterday is a classic example of why the rule is an ASS!!!! Rangatira, in your mind, did Copperhaead Rose get an absolute hiding from the driver and if it did, did the driver deserve to be charged? Flrget about the no. Of strikes, was the whip hits excessive in your mind????

The horse only won due to Jamie being so aggressive with the whip. Jamie Keast has never been one to be shy of using the whip. My point is that Jamie gave the horse more of a hiding than most of the drivers who have been done for excessive use of the whip or using the whip in excess of the permitted number, and only got a WARNING! The rule is an absolute ASS and needs altering back to what it was. HRNZ acknowledge you brought the stupid rule in Without much thought being given! What has happened to Oz Whip Rule? nothing they still give the horses heaps!!!

Well done Basil, great effort! Not sure how the TAB let you get that much on but they must’ve made allowances due to the Punters Comp? I wonder which one is Basil????? P..S. Of course it beats working Basil, working for a living is so overrated, that why I try to keep away from it nowadays!

Globe, there are more people that are annoyed with Purdon than support them, end of story. Good for the industry? Yeah/Nah

The whip rule currently is not even a joke, because it is so ridiculous!!! If everyone doesn’t agree with me then seriously you need to go to spec savers or somewhere that tests your eyes. The current rule says 10 hits with the whip any more and you get done!!! I have always said this is farcical and after race 12 today at Addington everyone including the Brodie knockers will be in my camp! Jamie Keast driving the winner Copperhead Rose got an absolute hammering with the whip that would’ve left large marks on the horse without doubt. The horse was absolutely whacked as hard as you could from a fair distance from home and of course Jamie Keast got a holiday or fined!!! NO NO NO NO NO NO he didn’t, he got a warning! Harness Racing NZ, pathetic rule, yes pathetic that should never have been brought in at all!!!! Harness Racing NZ admit that you have stuffed up big time and remedy your STUFF UP ASAP!!!!!!!

Boobybec, I am sure everyone from the Brightside welcomes you!

He has got to be kidding???? FFS we know why horses are being sold to Australia, David!!!

Change the flippen whip rule then!!!! A cheat won the NZ cup!