Brodie

Probably am Ranga! Early days a superior UDR at this stage!

Doesnt affect me Ranga, I live in NEW ZEALAND!!!! Blatant BS having Maori rammed down our throats!! I do have a major gambling problem! Never get enough on!

Of course, the point I was making is that Carter’s UDR for both of his first 2 seasons as a Junior was superior to Dexter’s! Far superior to All other Juniors!

Not sure what is going on? Can not get onto the TAB betting site saying that it is not available from my location! WTF? Not on Stewart Island or PNG! Has “The Brodster” been locked out by the NZ TAB or is everyone out?

Mr Cock, maybe I have been on something? Have no figures as to how many Junior drives Dexter Dunn had! Seem you are Mr Know All, Mr Cock, what was Dexters best year UDR?????

Yes Dexter is one of the very best drivers in the world without doubt. Not sure how many drives Dexter had in NZ as a Junior as he was originally in Oz? Dexter did win a lot and with some pretty average horses. Not sure his Junior UDR was as high as Carter’s though but someone will know.

Not sure why over the years the NZ Trotting Cup wasnt changed to what the gait actually is? Pedantic you might say, but from my point of view the starters in the race tend to be pacing rather than Trotting! Has it ever been mooted that it should be changed?

Going by the UDR, I would say that young Carter Dalgety is the best Junior driver we have ever had! His stats as a junior are far better than what Blair Orange’s was as a Junior! Not sure but Dexter may not have been a Junior driver in NZ but if he was his UDR wouldnt have been as impressive as Carter I am pretty sure. Carter comes across as a very level headed young bloke and has always been very good when he has been interviewed. I appreciate that he is getting some pretty good drives from a top stable but I am prepared to state that he is going to be one of our very best drivers for a long time and a top trainer should he choose this route as well! His drives this year and last have his UDR both over .3000 which is very impressive. This year he has been in the first 3 in nearly 50% of his drives.

Pleased you are finding value! Punters invest differently and what is being offered at most meetings is not suiting me at the moment, so I am just not bothering. Not a problem as it doesnt affect my lifestyle but enjoy the challenge. Wouldnt worry the TAB either so everyone is happy. Ashburton Sunday racing mainly over 1700m is another wasted space, and wont be investing watching live. Good luck to those having a go!

You are correct re the cold during Winter at Addington, far easier watching Trackside in the warmth of your lounge. Trackside is one of the reasons track attendance is just so poor now. Another is the treatment of certain punters by the betting agency doesnt make it worthwhile to attend as they are scrutinised too easily.

Yes no deductions is a bonus as well from the NZ TAB, so yes they are trying things to help get punters to invest! While they restrict certain punters to pathetic amounts and have a $1k ANTI MONEY LAUNDERING LIMIT then the turnover sill be stifled. The Bookies really need to grow some as they are not very brave.

Well done to the NZ TAB on bringing back the “HEAD TO HEAD” for harness after a long absence. Be very interesting to see how long they last for? TAB how about giving us the Option No. ??????

Looking thru the odds for Friday night, second week in a row and nothing I can see worth investing on!! Bookies you need to “grow some” and bring out the “Poser Plays” far earlier and advise the punters to get on and allow punters on for a fair amount and not your pathetic amounts! I am giving you the “heads up”, you continue to operate the way you are on harness racing punters, and you have killed it!! Personally do not think you really care, as long as you are getting paid for getting a good yield rather than increasing turnover that will increase your profit!

The NZ Cup is nothing at all like it used to be, despite being hyped up by Trackside. It is very sad that harness now allows 6 win horses into the NZ due to not enough competitive horses around and some of us are aware why this has happened. The current handicapping system has been tried but can we honestly say that it is working? Yes it has been great for many horses but on the whole it doesnt work as there is too much gap between the classes on raceday! Until it is sorted and stake money increases there will be a continuation of horses overseas in big numbers! Friday night’s fields shows this and it will be interesting to see how many horses start showing up now that we are into Spring?

Only eight races to be run on Friday night. Unfortunately 4 of the 8 have only 7 starters which is indeed very poor. Punters won’t bother too much although the owners of the starters have a pretty good chance of getting stake money. The industry is not in a very healthy situation currently and things need to change or things are going to get to a dire situation. There are not any new punters or owners coming thru in good enough numbers to make things viable!

Not a great sign for the future down there unfortunately but Southlanders are resilient! Problem down there is that they used to have so many more amateur trainers and this is probably declining in numbers? The increased costs to an owner to race a horse nowadays just not make it financially viable for people so individual ownership is getting hit. Unless the stake money increases significantly it is going to get harder to attract any new owners unless it is in syndicates. Years ago stablehands worked long long hours for low wages. Nowadays I am sure the wages bill has increased significantly so this has to be passed on to the owners, and this cost has not been seen in any increased stake money. Difficult times ahead for many juggling the finances with all of lifes increased costs. NZ TAB are not assisting harness racing by their draconian restrictions by way of restricting punters to pathetic amounts and the $1k ANTI -MONEY LAUNDERING BS!!!!!

You are correct he didnt cover any extra ground by being on the fence, but he did lose ground at the start from his gallop,@# he was 3rd last early on! Yes he did go very well at the trials the previous week as did Sporty Charlie. It doesnt really worry me too much as I dont invest on tight class racing

One of the nicest guys in harness racing in Canterbury, Colin DeFilippi had one of his best nkghts at Addington for a long time. Colin used to be one of our best drivers for a very long time but has been quieter than he once was with drives and horses at the races. He is probably under utilised nowadays but then that may be by choice? Anyway a great effort tonight to produce Heza Sport and Sporty Charlie to win first up against good opposition. They both went good at the trials last week and performed great tonight. A long stalwart of harness racing and deserves all the success he gets!

Surely this shows that our tighter assessed horses are the weakest they have ever been ? Heza Sport a good promising horse but you would not have thought that it could gallop away, and first up still beat those other ones gunning for a cup start automatically! Good runs by the Geoff Dunn runners but seriously we seem to be lacking the class horses we were used to! Think I still prefer the loose class racing, far easier to pick!

Depends on the race Ranga. With the odds so pathetic at the moment not worth much effort at the mo. So Power Plays may be the way to get reasonable collects otherwise I will stay on the sideline!

Is anyone getting decent amounts on PowerPlays or are they restricting you to low amounts?

Yes it is a very even field and impossible to predict the winner. Tonights fields are possibly the most unattractive for punting on for quite awhile. Good luck if you are having a go. NZ TAB bring out the power plays earlier and let punters on for good amounts.

Just looked at the fixed odds for Addington Friday night and seriously not a single gorse worth investing on the way that I invest! Small field, small odds, going to be a non investing night at the moment! What the NZ TAB need to do is bring the Power Plays out earlier and give them an option no. a d let punters offload. Just pathetic the way they only allow certain punters to net $30 on TOP 4 and Other account only options!!'!!!!!!!!

“The Race” over a mile at Cambridge is nothing more than a staged event for the corporates Doesnt attract new people into the industry by way of punters owners or trainers! It is just shuffling money from one big boy to another.

Reality is that most do not do a lot! Never see much promotion to get people along to Addington, surely there could be at least some signage around Chch promoting harness and the hospitality there??? Why can’t they get articles on TV 1 or TV3 news with interesting bits as most of the crap they have on since Ardern came in is BS? Why hasnt HRNZ gone into bat for the restricted punters to the TAB as the way it is at the moment is costing them big dollars in lost revenue? Harness racing needs to wake up before there is not a product!