Brodie

So is there any logical reason why the odds aren’t out yet?

So the Brains Trust have placed the perrenial galloper Lizzie Richter on the unruly list for Mobiles??????? WTF???? How stupid are these Stipes?????? Just another pathetically stupid decision from our professionals that are in charge of ensuring that racing is being run with integrity! Go figure, apparently you are allowed to gallop in every race and that is OK with our Stipes! Hopefully the owner of Lizzie Richter will retire the mare as it is going to continue to be a financial disaster continuing to pay training bills for a horse that would be far better suited racing at Riccarton Park! The decisions of the Stipes are mind boggling!

Yes she has got speed but she should not be allowed to race with her atrocious behaviour of galloping in every race but one or tso. Being sent to the trials to perform is just ridiculous as she only runs against a few nags! Be interesting to see what our so called Stipes do this time as she needs to be ousted for a lengthy period or indefinitely! How she has got away with her antics all her career is hard to fathom. She had all sorts of head gear and coverings today and still gallops and how is she going to win when she continues to have such bad behaviour? Some horses get put on the unruly with one gallop and yet this Lizzie Richter gets away with it every start!

If Lizzie Richter isn’t banned from racing for at least 6 months then the Stipes and RIU are pathetic. How on earth can anyone have any confidence in them when they have been acting totally irresponsibly by allowing this pig to race? Seriously a horse that has galloped in just about every race and is not unruly is just ridiculous! Retire the mare to the paddock before it causes harm!

Looks like she has to be running along in front or she gallops. Dont think the 2 trials showed that she is going to be able to race in a field without galloping. If she does gallop today needs to be out for 6 months and why is she not on the Unruly?

She is back, racing today at Rangiora and not even UNRULY!!! How many damn chances does this rogue of a horse get?? She has drawn out a bit which may help, but seriously what are the odds of her not galloping?? If she gallops today the Stipes need to pull their heads in and put her out for life!! Going to be an interesting watch.

Ranga, it is not their personal money!!! Yes they are paid to get the best result for their employer being the TAB! However their business plan is totally flawed. If NZ wants a harness racing future they seriously need to be encouraging people to enter the industry, i.e. Owners trainers drivers and PUNTERS! Without the $ from the punters in NZ the industry is totally stuffed and the TAB will only be operating on Sports and overseas racing! Any Dickhead can set odds that are UNDERS and leave them there, they need to be encouraging the wagering! The tote pools nowadays are pathetic and clearly shows that they are not getting the casual punter onboard!

Looking thru tonights Addington fixed odds, there are so many horses that odds appear far too short for what they should be, but we expect that from the Bookies! The thing is that if there is no money for a horse then they should be lengthening them out slightly to encourage wagering! By leaving them at UNDERS all it does is not encourage the punters to offload and by lengthening them out in the last few minutes misses so many would be punters! Yes they want to be SAFE however the odds are always in the TABs favour so to increase the turnover and therefore the profit, they need to alter their current policy of offering fixedodds that are under what they should be until the last few minutes!!

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Not sure nowadays Ranga. i do know that several years ago there were no restricted gallops punters! Reason being is that gallops form is impossible and people that punt on gallops are not exactly playing with a full deck!

I agree they could bring them out earlier than they do! Thing is the so called Bookies in NZ treat harness racing punters very poorly compared to the galloping punters! More restricted punters, no head to heads etc.

They actually bring them out earlier than what they do in Oz which is good. Just question why they bring the crap betting races out earlier when you would think they would want to attract early money on all races surely? When they do lengthen out the fixed odds it is often too late for punters to get on at the longer odds!!!!

The TAB often brings out fixed odds earlier than the night before on certain races!!! They have brought them out on the crap punting races, the Uncut Gems races!!!! most of these races are never great punting races and arent worth even looking at as the odds are always crap! If they are able to open the Book up early on these unattractive punting races then why on earth dont they use a bit of intelligence and open up early on all the races???? Surely they are wanting to attract punters to have a go, but by their actions it doesnt appear to be the case!!!!! Who makes these decisions in Wellington?.

Brodie is “always on the money” whether you want to admit it or not!

Brad is better that Matthew you only have to look at their UDR!

Of course I am the same person, just richer and wiser!

Nats were not wanking on for 2 years about being KIND and keeping us SAFE or telling us BS re the TOXIC JABS BEING SAFE!!!!! The Commies control the BS coming from the media! You have been conned big time, but you just do not want to believe it!

Ravioli, so you have watched Ardern’s communist comrade rant or NOT???? and NO I am not a pensioner and never will be in receipt of a Government pension, so never be a pensioner at all!!!

Ludwig, this lot are a controlling bunch of arseholes that want to meddle in every bit of your life! Robertson is so out of his depth with finance but he does not care and Ardern well she is the most UNKIND person of all time. The COVID BS is the biggest scam in history and had nothing at all to do with keeping people safe and well!! You only need to look at the state of Robertson, Megan Woods and co. to realise that they have no interest in keeping people healthy!!!

She won ok Chief for a trial run, but she would not be getting any of my $ until she could prove she can pace a full race without galloping! Surely she will be starting from the unruly when she starts again, personally believe she is a horse that will continue to be a PIG in a race, and she has not proven that she should be allowed to race, as she is clearly dangerous! Drivers should be saying to the Stipes that they are not happy to be on the track with it!!

With respect to you, Ardern is a Communist and several of her Labour Party have already shown this! You only need to watch her Comrade rant on video where you can clearly see that she is a COMMUNIST!!! Her dictatorship ways and everything that makes for communism control of people, media, making people reliant on govt. etc. is Communism! No it is not here yet but it is their plan without doubt, and there is no way we should be obeying what they are trying to do!!!

Incompetent communists making the decisions and many were shockers!

Waste of time even debating anything with someone that wants to defend the worst Prime Minister with absolutely no qualifications that NZ has ever had!!!! Personally will not abide by anything that the Communist wants!!!!!

Thats great, let it run at the trials and no tote starts! It has had more than enough chances at the races and the fact that it can pace at a trials meeting is a cop out! So it will be back at the races in another week or two and do the same damn galloping! What part of not wanting to pace on raceday do the Stipes not understand????? It should have been banned for months and such a repeat offender should not be allowed to endanger drivers out on the track!

The ones that voted Labour in should very much be doing exactly that Gamma! Not much thought went into their actions unfortunately!