Another meeting bites the dust.

[hesi]

There was some reasonable stake money left on offer, for NZ anyway, 140K over 5 races

[Newmarket]

Once again, some races had been completed before being called off? This happens all the time. Do they not try a horse on a track before first race if they have any doubts? Seems like they send jockeys around until one slips or falls? Not good enough

[Guest CrossCodes]

3 minutes ago, hesi said:

There was some reasonable stake money left on offer, for NZ anyway, 140K over 5 races

Never mind, the stipes, RIU staff and Petone staff will all still get paid.

[barryb]

15 minutes ago, Newmarket said:

Just seen news article that said 40 Tongans were brawling, pool of blood in the street! So not all happy

How is that different from a normal South Auckland Saturday night?.

[hesi]

Does anyone have confidence that the sand issue at Te Rapa has been rectified, and therefore that is also called off after R1

[Newmarket]

2 minutes ago, barryb said:

How is that different from a normal South Auckland Saturday night?.

Well, difference was there was no shouting. They had all lost their voice singing at game?

[barryb]

4 minutes ago, hesi said:

Does anyone have confidence that the sand issue at Te Rapa has been rectified, and therefore that is also called off after R1

I do mate, heading along tomorrow for a day out in the sun.

I believe in Ken Rutherford and he says its good to go, then it must be. ?

I should be back home by 2pm to spray the garden.

Edited October 21, 2018 by barryb

[Mark D]

Yip he did a great job on that trials track at Te Rapa

[Mark D]

A thorough and extensive explanation from the NZTR

 

Meeting News

Otaki-Maori RC Abandoned

 

Otaki Meeting Abandoned

Due to two horses slipping around the 800m point during Race 3 the Otaki meeting has been abandoned.

There is no plan, at this point, to reschedule the meeting.

 

Edited October 21, 2018 by Mark D

[Chief Stipe]

Otaki hasn't been right since they first did that work quite a few years ago.

[nomates]

What ever happens going forward regardless of whether that is following the Massara  bible or another avenue the first thing that needs to be done is the recruitment of a world class track specialist , someone with a proven track record , pay them what they want , probably still won't be close to John Allen's salary . At present the person in charge of tracks is continuing to following a well worn path of failure . If nothing changes , nothing changes .

[Chief Stipe]

Just now, nomates said:

What ever happens going forward regardless of whether that is following the Massara  bible or another avenue the first thing that needs to be done is the recruitment of a world class track specialist , someone with a proven track record , pay them what they want , probably still won't be close to John Allen's salary . At present the person in charge of tracks is continuing to following a well worn path of failure . If nothing changes , nothing changes .

I tend to agree with you.  The only solutions the current mob has is to put in more drainage and sand slitting.

[nomates]

CS , first started going to Otaki 40+ years ago , for many decades i would hear trainers saying the Otaki surface was regarded as the best surface in NZ , if not Australasia .

[Chief Stipe]

1 minute ago, nomates said:

CS , first started going to Otaki 40+ years ago , for many decades i would hear trainers saying the Otaki surface was regarded as the best surface in NZ , if not Australasia .

Ironically until they started renovating it!

[nomates]

CS , the drainage and sand slitting and watering management plan are not the solutions , they are the problems , but they are in complete denial  that they are getting anything wrong . A substantially long list of successive cock ups but still no one at head office has thought why not try something different it couldn't be any worse .The term MOB suits this lot down to the ground because professionals their not .

[von Smallhaussen]

once again they have been irrigating on top of a 'hardpan' - do they not understand that if you DO NOT irrigate the grassroots will go deeper into the ground looking for moisture?

If the grassroots go deeper into the ground, the ground is held together better and provides a decent racing surface.

for my consultants fee just deposit the equivalent of John Allen's salary for 1 month into my bank account ?

[hesi]

11 minutes ago, von Smallhaussen said:

once again they have been irrigating on top of a 'hardpan' - do they not understand that if you DO NOT irrigate the grassroots will go deeper into the ground looking for moisture?

If the grassroots go deeper into the ground, the ground is held together better and provides a decent racing surface.

for my consultants fee just deposit the equivalent of John Allen's salary for 1 month into my bank account ?

Bull

[Huey]

13 minutes ago, von Smallhaussen said:

once again they have been irrigating on top of a 'hardpan' - do they not understand that if you DO NOT irrigate the grassroots will go deeper into the ground looking for moisture?

If the grassroots go deeper into the ground, the ground is held together better and provides a decent racing surface.

for my consultants fee just deposit the equivalent of John Allen's salary for 1 month into my bank account ?

Why is it only the TAB cop the backlash for this? 

Don't NZTR run the race meetings and have the relationship with the club, they would have to be one of the most dissapointing organisations anywhere in racing across the globe.

[von Smallhaussen]

2 minutes ago, Huey said:

Why is it only the TAB cop the backlash for this? 

Don't NZTR run the race meetings and have the relationship with the club, they would have to be one of the most dissapointing organisations anywhere in racing across the globe.

wasn't blaming the TAB - it is just that John Allen's salary is higher ?

[Mark D]

Seems the same "rigorous" testing was used at Ellerslie - expect the same

 

https://loveracing.nz/News/25701/Ellerslietrackgivengreenlight.aspx

[Rowley Mile]

22 minutes ago, von Smallhaussen said:

once again they have been irrigating on top of a 'hardpan' - do they not understand that if you DO NOT irrigate the grassroots will go deeper into the ground looking for moisture?

If the grassroots go deeper into the ground, the ground is held together better and provides a decent racing surface.

for my consultants fee just deposit the equivalent of John Allen's salary for 1 month into my bank account ?

Spoken like a true farmer!

[Rowley Mile]

Just read where Goodwin says they had held trials on the track???? WTF? I've been right through the trials and the jumpouts and can't find any scaric of info on that......can you just open your mouth and let the wind blow your tongue around...or what?....maybe the otaki clan galloped a few togther doing evens and gave it the thumbs up.

[Freda]

..and we are supposed to have faith in this same failed culture to oversee more renovations and reconstructions - with money stolen from some clubs?  

God give me strength...  how does the 'turf specialist' get out of bed in the morning?

[barryb]

Horror fall at Cranbourne and meeting is off there after 4 races.

Jockey Motionless on track for over an hour, doesnt look good.

[Rowley Mile]

He was moving, sat up even, but pain, so it's a precaution......not the track though, I think one poor horse broke down and wammo.