TAB / Betcha…. Please Gamble Responsibly!

[Special Agent]

3 minutes ago, hesi said:

Adding to this, Lotto has only one tool to assist in betting responsibly 'Spend Limits"

I've often thought about what TAB accounts would look like with limits applied.  I suspect the Lotto limits are online only, but don't know.

[hesi]

There you go

Can only be online

Spend limits are changing | Lotto NZ | Lotto New Zealand

[Special Agent]

Easier to jam up your computer than tap you on the shoulder at a Lotto outlet.

[hesi]

I guess the TAB has an advantage, in that so much has moved to online.  About 50 outlets left and 400 pubs and clubs, which are self-service.

Whereas 1400 Lotto outlets

So the tools for problem gambling can be used more effectively.

As you say, shoulder tapping could be hazardous lol

Edited 17 hours ago by hesi

[mikeynz]

Many who play lotto would never bet on horses, reason, no massive pools to tempt people into bothering, wouldn't think lotto is a problem, 2 draws a week, 

[Newmarket]

7 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

That's somewhat of an extreme generalisation. The fact is up until ENTAIN arrived on the scene you have made no posts on gambling harm to young gamblers.  

Yet the moment you are restricted in where and how much you can wager you are all over it and pleading for the welfare of your kids and grandkids.  You may well describe comments nonsense written by someone calling out the irony and hypocricsy of your new found stance.

Not to mention of course that you are not prepared to state what the nonsense is!!

But hang on…..

I am sure you will remember…. but one of the main points to stop NZ punters betting overseas, was overseas operators where not looking after NZ problem gamblers habits…. what a load of shit. As i have said, Aus operators always sent a monthly statement showing win/loss…. Betcha & TAB never do this, have to look at statement which only shows all bets, deposits & withdrawals…. not a win / loss statement. Since Entain has been onboard, we are bombarded with TV advertising targeting new punters…. its a disgrace. 

[Newmarket]

5 hours ago, hesi said:

I guess the TAB has an advantage, in that so much has moved to online.  About 50 outlets left and 400 pubs and clubs, which are self-service.

Whereas 1400 Lotto outlets

So the tools for problem gambling can be used more effectively.

As you say, shoulder tapping could be hazardous lol

But you cant compare lotto, majority spend only on the Weds & Sat, so 2 lotto draws. Compare that with hundreds of races each day 24/7, from any desperate track in the world, who cares where. 

[Newmarket]

6 hours ago, Special Agent said:

I've often thought about what TAB accounts would look like with limits applied.  I suspect the Lotto limits are online only, but don't know.

Yes, lotto limits are online, i only play a few lines each week so doesnt bother me…..

You make a good point, if Betcha / TAB were doing their job, anyone having a bad run for a few months should at least be contacted, i know nobody that has been contacted, they are a fraud. 
Remember Steel Balls, TAB knew he had issues, rumours were well around town and everyone knew he was credit betting…. FFS when the shit really hit the fan he was at a VIP TAB sporting event…. couldnt give a shit as just wanted turnover…. but wow, did the TAB run for cover after it all come out. Only met the guy twice years ago, but always thought he was treated badly by the TAB. Was a guy in Christchurch that was involved in the travel industry which also had issues, have many others. Need to do more, young kids have already been used to playing online games, with some you can buy products to advance…. next thing these guys get to 18yo, start betting on sports… hooked bigtime.

[hesi]

2 hours ago, Newmarket said:

But you cant compare lotto, majority spend only on the Weds & Sat, so 2 lotto draws. Compare that with hundreds of races each day 24/7, from any desperate track in the world, who cares where. 

It is still gambling and can lead on to more serious gambling

[Huey]

9 hours ago, Newmarket said:

Yes, lotto limits are online, i only play a few lines each week so doesnt bother me…..

You make a good point, if Betcha / TAB were doing their job, anyone having a bad run for a few months should at least be contacted, i know nobody that has been contacted, they are a fraud. 
Remember Steel Balls, TAB knew he had issues, rumours were well around town and everyone knew he was credit betting…. FFS when the shit really hit the fan he was at a VIP TAB sporting event…. couldnt give a shit as just wanted turnover…. but wow, did the TAB run for cover after it all come out. Only met the guy twice years ago, but always thought he was treated badly by the TAB. Was a guy in Christchurch that was involved in the travel industry which also had issues, have many others. Need to do more, young kids have already been used to playing online games, with some you can buy products to advance…. next thing these guys get to 18yo, start betting on sports… hooked bigtime.

Don't worry there will be facial recognition or something of the sort on the way to spoil it all.