Aimee Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 43 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: Aimee, everyone on here knows my name it's not a secret, and as I said it is just my opinion, I have defended Tim's driving plenty of times in the past, ....people have plenty to say about other drivers/poor drives on the trotting section on here, but I only see you jumping up and down when Tim is mentioned! Are some people too sacred to be criticized?......... Cheers Des I’m loyal to all of my family and will defend them like I said I’m tims harshest judge, he did everything within the rules to win the race that’s all he can do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted May 7, 2019 Author Share Posted May 7, 2019 12 minutes ago, Aimee said: I’m loyal to all of my family and will defend them like I said I’m tims harshest judge, he did everything within the rules to win the race that’s all he can do Fair enough, I'm loyal to my family too, but you have to understand any high profile drivers or trainers that are in the public domain are going to be criticized now and again especially with the amount of $$ they carry .....same as politicians get held to account by tax payers.........? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aimee Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 I didn’t see a post from anyone when the horse galloped the start before?? I would say what he did the other night was a massive improvement 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 5 hours ago, Aimee said: I didn’t see a post from anyone when the horse galloped the start before?? I would say what he did the other night was a massive improvement When the All-Stars have 3 or 4 or 5 horses in a race, what people tend to forget is that only one of them wins...the rest did not. Personally, I don't think Smooth Deal is the best 2-year-old anyway. It got beaten on its merits the other night. I would blame (which I am not) the horse rather the driver. Especially considering there was nothing wrong with the drive at all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 24 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: When the All-Stars have 3 or 4 or 5 horses in a race, what people tend to forget is that only one of them wins...the rest did not. Personally, I don't think Smooth Deal is the best 2-year-old anyway. It got beaten on its merits the other night. I would blame (which I am not) the horse rather the driver. Especially considering there was nothing wrong with the drive at all. The original post wasn't just about smooth deal, I think Tim drives better when not on an all stars horse ..a poignant post below from earlier in the year, which seems to happen all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Personally think that Tim Williams is a driver that alway spits his horse in the race. Yes, like every driver, he has had some poor drives, but he in my humble opinion one of the better aggressive drivers that we have. His record of driving Group winners for the AllStars I believe is pretty useful and if Mark and Nat didn’t rate him, then he wouldn’t be driving for them. He has improved remarkably from when he was driving down in Southland many years ago. Tim is always available for the media and I beleive that should he choose to train at some stage, he will be very successful, having worked for the AllStars Stable and being intelligent. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Postman Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 I can only imagine the roasting Tim would be getting tonight if he was getting rolled on the hotpots like the Boss. On a side note great to see John Dunn not afraid to take on the All Stars on a Premier night, makes for some great viewing! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted May 10, 2019 Share Posted May 10, 2019 Tim is a great guy and a great athlete 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted May 10, 2019 Author Share Posted May 10, 2019 (edited) 13 hours ago, Postman said: I can only imagine the roasting Tim would be getting tonight if he was getting rolled on the hotpots like the Boss. On a side note great to see John Dunn not afraid to take on the All Stars on a Premier night, makes for some great viewing! He did get rolled again in the 5th only me his best drive of the night, another $1.55 fav! However, I can't believe it was paying so little as he made hard work of winning his first start against much worse opposition and taking on hardened horses another step up. Edited May 10, 2019 by Flagship uberalles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 49 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: He did get rolled again in the 5th only me his best drive of the night, another $1.55 fav! However, I can't believe it was paying so little as he made hard work of winning his first start against much worse opposition and taking on hardened horses another step up. Williams is talented, but he is like most drivers,positive driving gets positive results,negative driving gets negative results. Williiams drive on the just run race 2 at winton was a case of negative driving snuffing out any chance his horse had of placing. No ones perfect I suppose. I've noticed S McNally going through one of those negative patches at the moment. I never quite understand how good drivers can drive so negatively some times. you see it a lot where out of form drivers would rather sit 5 back the fence than face the breeze half way through a race. Its obviously all a mindset they get into. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 2 hours ago, Flagship uberalles said: another $1.55 fav! A TAB sucker punch. Lead the gullible to the unpromised land. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted May 11, 2019 Author Share Posted May 11, 2019 9 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: A TAB sucker punch. Lead the gullible to the unpromised land. Your "On the money" happy a complete sucker punch 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 1 minute ago, Flagship uberalles said: Your "On the money" happy a complete sucker punch Holy shit, that is high praise lol. In fact, the highest in the land! ? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted May 11, 2019 Author Share Posted May 11, 2019 36 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: Holy shit, that is high praise lol. In fact, the highest in the land! ? I know of only one grand master that has ever had that praise! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 2 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: I know of only one grand master that has ever had that praise! lol that was self praise which holds no value 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 10 minutes ago, Rangatira said: lol that was self praise which holds no value Funny. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted May 11, 2019 Author Share Posted May 11, 2019 17 minutes ago, Rangatira said: lol that was self praise which holds no value You are like a loyal labrador that pines for his master to return ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted May 11, 2019 Share Posted May 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: You are like a loyal labrador that pines for his master to return ? lets hope he returns with prawns 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 (edited) On 5/05/2019 at 4:56 PM, Flagship uberalles said: Having just viewed the replay, P reactor clearly beaten for speed by the other three, ottley had a very brief chance to come off the fence but she hesitated and didn't take the opportunity ..game over!, from then on never a chance, it finished on ok......if I had backed I would probably not be happy ? Hot favorite again today but driven like they didn't rate it much chance again. Goes back ,seemed fair enough,but stays there when pace slackens,hits a wheel by the looks of it when she pulls it out at the 1000m and stumbles,then runs up the inside without being asked for an effort thereafter as no point . I'm not sure about this horse,if it was any good why does it get driven like it needs everything to go its way. It did go good in its first run. That stable just always seems to be a next time stable,and next time never comes The johnny cox stable would have to be the most improved stable seen for a while . The whole team has improved a lot in the last 3 weeks and is well worth following at the moment. Edited May 26, 2019 by the galah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted May 26, 2019 Author Share Posted May 26, 2019 40 minutes ago, the galah said: Hot favorite again today but driven like they didn't rate it much chance again. Goes back ,seemed fair enough,but stays there when pace slackens,hits a wheel by the looks of it when she pulls it out at the 1000m and stumbles,then runs up the inside without being asked for an effort thereafter as no point . I'm not sure about this horse,if it was any good why does it get driven like it needs everything to go its way. It did go good in its first run. That stable just always seems to be a next time stable,and next time never comes The johnny cox stable would have to be the most improved stable seen for a while . The whole team has improved a lot in the last 3 weeks and is well worth following at the moment. I with you galah, the drive on it not positive at all, it's looking a bit exposed now, probably romp home next time it's paying $6-7! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 8 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: I with you galah, the drive on it not positive at all, it's looking a bit exposed now, probably romp home next time it's paying $6-7! dizzy might suggest they put the trials driver back on 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted May 26, 2019 Share Posted May 26, 2019 trainer is so disappointing the way his horses go is more of a Payne in the arse 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CrossCodes Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Another Tim Williams special on Copperfield in the first, yes he drew inside the back row but he never made any attempt to get off the fence, and on a 1.5 shot it was a horrid watch, not talking through my pocket either as I don’t like him as a driver and wouldn’t back him, but a Mark or Natalie wouldn’t have driven the standout in the race for luck like Tim did....JMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 57 minutes ago, CrossCodes said: Another Tim Williams special on Copperfield in the first, yes he drew inside the back row but he never made any attempt to get off the fence, and on a 1.5 shot it was a horrid watch, not talking through my pocket either as I don’t like him as a driver and wouldn’t back him, but a Mark or Natalie wouldn’t have driven the standout in the race for luck like Tim did....JMO poor turtle will be grateful for his hard shell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 hours ago, CrossCodes said: Another Tim Williams special on Copperfield in the first, yes he drew inside the back row but he never made any attempt to get off the fence, and on a 1.5 shot it was a horrid watch, not talking through my pocket either as I don’t like him as a driver and wouldn’t back him, but a Mark or Natalie wouldn’t have driven the standout in the race for luck like Tim did....JMO Always worth viewing when they get beaten! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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