Flagship uberalles Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 I think Michael house really places his low grade horses brilliantly, be good if he started getting some tighter assessed horses and made the big races competitive again. Are you saying Brodie that he is getting the horses that all stars are rejecting from their pool of owners? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 6 hours ago, Richie said: It's not that expensive,I heard it works out at about $50 per vial. Think you get over 20 vials per withdraw I dont know for sure but have been told this is over 6 months worth Somebody with more knowledge on the subject than me might be able to confirm 40 vials Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonny Longshot Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Is this a meeting of the Flat Earth Society? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 7 hours ago, Flagship uberalles said: Hunter your mate is back? ..at least he has blocked us so he won't read what we say about him!! haha not a bad guy our greg of trackside not good tipster and is good supporter of the all-star stable just one eyed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 29 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: haha not a bad guy our greg of trackside not good tipster and is good supporter of the all-star stable just one eyed I got a picture of him, I can't believe our crag is one eyed? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 3 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: I got a picture of him, I can't believe our crag is one eyed? is that what happens when your blood is spun lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Flagship uberalles said: I think Michael house really places his low grade horses brilliantly, be good if he started getting some tighter assessed horses and made the big races competitive again. Are you saying Brodie that he is getting the horses that all stars are rejecting from their pool of owners? Yes, some owners have horses at Michael Houses stables as well. Edited August 27, 2019 by Brodie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Harewood said: Now you never tell porkies Brodie so what is the vague term you have used, "somewhat connection" refer to. You cannot go and make these accusations without substantiating what you say otherwise it verges on libel. Well he can actually, because someone running the show let's him . Unsubstantiated claims and innuendo are everyday fare for someone with no active part in the Industry either physically or fiscally as far as I can tell , apart from being a complete twat on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, globederby12 said: Well he can actually, because someone running the show let's him . Unsubstantiated claims and innuendo are everyday fare for someone with no active part in the Industry either physically or fiscally as far as I can tell , apart from being a complete twat on here. You can't stop people having opinions, and its unrealistic for chat sites like this to censor someone expressing an opinion like brodie has. You don't agree he should be allowed too, but why is it so sensitive a subject? The main point is he has never suggested House,nor anyone else using this product has done anything illegal. He does seem to infer that blood spinning helps performance. Hell I thought that's what people who promote these type of products want people to think. If House does use the product and does so within the rules then why on earth should it upset him or his supporters what brodie has said? I don't know what world some live in,but why can't people accept the truth,and that is a lot of trainers will use products that they believe are performance enhancing and are legal, especially if the cost can be passed onto to owners or results justify the cost of its use. Globe derby, you may get annoyed when someone may suggest anything that implies anything other than training skills will help improve performances. Where do you draw the line?Do you get upset if someone suggests some trainers use vets that can help performance more than others? Edited August 27, 2019 by the galah 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 Just to be clear,i have no idea whether House uses uses blood spinning or not. I do think he is a very good trainer who always operates within the rules. His decision to use Reids skills is what you would expect from him, as he seems driven to get the best performances possible from himself and his horses,and can think outside the square. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 10 hours ago, Jonny Longshot said: Is this a meeting of the Flat Earth Society? I was wondering that as well? Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, globederby12 said: Well he can actually, because someone running the show let's him . Unsubstantiated claims and innuendo are everyday fare for someone with no active part in the Industry either physically or fiscally as far as I can tell , apart from being a complete twat on here. Well summed up Globe but to show some balance he does not bet with NZTAB because apparently he is restricted in the amounts he can put on and win and also now disagrees with their ID system re AML. And thats without any mention of his other pet hate ie Purdon and Co which will be on the radar very shortly as their horses begin spring campaigns. Its only gong to get worse and to think some pids on here think he is WH On a positive note sounds like your good trotter has done well over the break Greg Edited August 27, 2019 by JJ Flash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 7 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: I was wondering that as well? Greg Simple, don't read the thread, or add some informative content, and dont speak in riddles, then maybe you can try and claim the moral high ground! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: Well summed up Globe but to show some balance he does not bet with NZTAB because apparently he is restricted in the amounts he can put on and win and also now disagrees with their ID system re AML. And thats without any mention of his other pet hate ie Purdon and Co which will be on the radar very shortly as their horses begin spring campaigns. Its only gong to get worse and to think some pids on here think he is WH Greg Greg, I was under the misapprehension that you were sticking to the Darkside? I have not got a pet hate for the AllStars stables at all! What I point out is that the domination by the one stable is having a devastating effect on harness racing in NZ!! All of my posts are my opinion, which I am allowed to express. The fact that a few like to disagree solely on the basis that they are AllStar stable supporters for different reasons is their right. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 27 minutes ago, Brodie said: Greg, I was under the misapprehension that you were sticking to the Darkside? I have not got a pet hate for the AllStars stables at all! What I point out is that the domination by the one stable is having a devastating effect on harness racing in NZ!! All of my posts are my opinion, which I am allowed to express. The fact that a few like to disagree solely on the basis that they are AllStar stable supporters for different reasons is their right. Brodie, I agree on the Purdon barns alleged use of BS, and the turning of a blind eye to its alleged use by those authority's in charge. We have felt the impact of this first hand. Having said that I feel no I'll will towards the Purdons, they are only pushing the boundaries within a bent system . Hopefully that may change.!! What hasn't been established is the fact of its legality in the first place, either by the rule book or knowledgeable posters on here for instance. I stand to be corrected on that one. So before we acuse other trainers of some impropriety in its use , we need to start with the cold hard facts. Start with the truth and truth abounds, start with innuendo and presuppositions and you end up as Harewood States ,Libel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 27, 2019 Author Share Posted August 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, globederby12 said: So before we acuse other trainers of some impropriety in its use , we need to start with the cold hard facts. Start with the truth and truth abounds, start with innuendo and presuppositions and you end up as Harewood States ,Libel. I'm of the opinion that that hasn't happened here. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 1 hour ago, Brodie said: Greg, I was under the misapprehension that you were sticking to the Darkside? I post on both sites Brodie as you and others know full well , given how much time you spend over there. If you want me to post any of your views or refute anything on there just PM me and ill try and help you out. Greg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted August 27, 2019 Share Posted August 27, 2019 43 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: I post on both sites Brodie as you and others know full well , given how much time you spend over there. If you want me to post any of your views or refute anything on there just PM me and ill try and help you out. Greg I tried to help you out with PM but you blocked me??? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, JJ Flash said: And thats without any mention of his other pet hate ie Purdon and Co which will be on the radar very shortly as their horses begin spring campaigns. Its only gong to get worse and to think some pids on here think he is WH Greg What's a Pid? Ive looked up the word and its definition is an abbreviation for pelvic inflammatory disease. Are you talking in code ? The WH. Whats that mean. Are you suggesting he should be in the White House? I didn't know your such a big fan. Or is it some reference to his weight and height? Edited August 28, 2019 by the galah 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Brodie said: Greg, I was under the misapprehension that you were sticking to the Darkside? have you ever been to the darkside brodie ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 54 minutes ago, Rangatira said: have you ever been to the darkside brodie ? Yeah, he was pretty "dark" after being told he was restricted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Rangatira said: have you ever been to the darkside brodie ? This is absolute proof that the brodsters real name is Clark Kent 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 6 hours ago, globederby12 said: Brodie, I agree on the Purdon barns alleged use of BS, and the turning of a blind eye to its alleged use by those authority's in charge. We have felt the impact of this first hand. Having said that I feel no I'll will towards the Purdons, they are only pushing the boundaries within a bent system . Hopefully that may change.!! What hasn't been established is the fact of its legality in the first place, either by the rule book or knowledgeable posters on here for instance. I stand to be corrected on that one. So before we acuse other trainers of some impropriety in its use , we need to start with the cold hard facts. Start with the truth and truth abounds, start with innuendo and presuppositions and you end up as Harewood States ,Libel. Globe, no innuendos at all! What I did say was that I would not be surprised if Michael House Stable had horses that had their blood spun!! No innuendos, just my thoughts, could be wrong and then I wouldn’t be on the money for the first t8me! Something has changed with the stable over the last couple of seasons. May just be some different trainingregime but could also be Blood spinning or other treatment, I don’t know but there is something. I appreciate it is not an illegal procedure at the moment by itself however controversial it is! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, globederby12 said: Yeah, he was pretty "dark" after being told he was restricted. Not again!!!? Greg Edited August 28, 2019 by JJ Flash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted August 28, 2019 Share Posted August 28, 2019 7 hours ago, JJ Flash said: I was wondering that as well? Greg so greg you know who brodie and who I am so are you mr trackside?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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