Rusty Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Andrew McKerrow does a terrific job, and a top guy. He is a real asset to the racing industry. I think we are very lucky to have him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongOwner Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, the galah said: I have always thought it has never been made clear by officialdom as to what Lambs duties as a steward are. I have always assumed it was to do the likes of checking brands,numbers when they come into the birdcage pre race and around at the start. I had assumed his duties as a stipendary steward were unrelated to,and completely separate from that of the stipes who officiate over the running of a race. The failure of HRNZ or the RIU to clarify his duties and confirm there is complete separation i have thought is for one of two reasons. Either it is beacuse they are happy to see him undermined,(which would not surprise me),or that my assumption of his duties are not correct. I'm guessing it is the former,although may be wrong. Don’t your read RIU staff position , read reports or study the various roles with RIU - Lamb is an Investigating Officer - a lot more than checking brands which I have never seen him do at Addington - there is a RIU member doing that as the horses leave the barn to the track while Lamb sits on his mobile gate throne . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 Dont worry about Mr Lamb, he will be fine and has a thick skin, as has been proven by not standing down, and needing the DCM! Most that have been in the Police force can handle a bit of stick! I hope Mr Lamb doesnt now become vindictive towards harness drivers, as I would say that the drivers as a collective group, will not tolerate this! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongOwner Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, Rusty said: Andrew McKerrow does a terrific job, and a top guy. He is a real asset to the racing industry. I think we are very lucky to have him. So Lamb can use his services as the RIU suggest the horseman do after they have unjustifiably slaughtered many to allow falsely there conscious to be clear . Andrew is an asset the starter can use but don’t ask the public to show sympathy as this is years of rubbish service ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongOwner Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Happy Sunrise said: Yip, another one. They were more than anticipating and in the inquiry into Lamb's previous large clanger in August they were going to hold drivers more accountable but they don't. The outside horses clearly put pressure on the starter and got away with it. They are not reprimanded because the stipes do not follow their own rulings or directions, eg late scratchings, standing down poorly behaved horses, horses going inside the marker pegs, drivers hitting wheels. Lamb is a fall guy in a partial kind of way because he is not supported by the stipes in their management of the starts and he is left to deal with the confusion. The RIU were in this instance pathetic! Washed over Lambs excuse and did not question drivers who charged the tape - not once but twice. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongOwner Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Twice in one week agreeing with Galah. I must be ill. Copy That wouldn't have won that race. He was off for some reason. Blair Orange didn't drive him with confidence either. Probably more than one reason why avoiding the FFA. Ignore CT - the start was rubbish for any horse which didn’t charge the line and were at full speed at the start line - inside and second line horses all robed. The winner , third and fourth finishers cheated because started allowed them . I hope the time is reset as - no time recorded - because it is not a true time . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, LongOwner said: Ignore CT - the start was rubbish for any horse which didn’t charge the line and were at full speed at the start line - inside and second line horses all robed. The winner , third and fourth finishers cheated because started allowed them . I hope the time is reset as - no time recorded - because it is not a true time . Longowner, as you know I am not a great fan of the NZ Cup nowadays as we all know what stable is going to win. The standing start over many years for the Cup has been pretty average and experienced punters know that it is going to be poor. The trainers and drivers just accepted it every year and it has just built to a crescendo and BOAY posters have continually pointed out the starters poor performance. Onwards and upwards from here now hopefully! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 hours ago, LongOwner said: Don’t your read RIU staff position , read reports or study the various roles with RIU - Lamb is an Investigating Officer - a lot more than checking brands which I have never seen him do at Addington - there is a RIU member doing that as the horses leave the barn to the track while Lamb sits on his mobile gate throne . I have been talking about raceday duties. As to the checking of brands on raceday. I know from personal experience he has checked the brands on horses when at the races. I don't think my memory is that poor to confuse him with someone else. You state Lamb has a role as an investigating officer with the riu. And there in a nutshell is the reason for some who have an anti Lamb sentiment. I put you in that actegory long owner. I also put Ray green in that category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 12 hours ago, Mikie said: we will know for sure once JJ Flash posts As my detractors, Noodlum,Happy and Chief have not bagged my posts this week-- a miracle by their standards I'm thinking it best not to tempt fate with what i know on the subject. Greg- where is my bloody PM function Chief , oh thats right im not allowed it back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 15 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: As my detractors, Noodlum,Happy and Chief have not bagged my posts this week-- a miracle by their standards I'm thinking it best not to tempt fate with what i know on the subject. Greg- where is my bloody PM function Chief , oh thats right im not allowed it back. i am pleased that you didn't list me as a detractor I try, and perhaps I fail sometimes, to take issue with a post rather than posters Perhaps we should all do that? Mikie 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 27 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: As my detractors, Noodlum,Happy and Chief have not bagged my posts this week-- a miracle by their standards How do you treat others? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, Mikie said: i am pleased that you didn't list me as a detractor I try, and perhaps I fail sometimes, to take issue with a post rather than posters Perhaps we should all do that? Mikie I was trying to find a polite word for wankers, because they come across that way at times when i post.. I don't lose any sleep over it as their attitude says more about them than me. You are clearly in touch with hierarchy as am i but their are limits as to what you can say as much is told un secrecy. Thats why i choose not to counter reply and get told im running away etc. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: How do you treat others? Well Happy , i either ignore them , laugh at them or put them on the blocked list . At times i may show them the error of their thoughts but in a nice way as it works better that way on the other channel HTP and Flagship have been on it for 2 years plus now. It works for me You clearly don't like me , your choice but please don't think I'm gonna lose sleep over it. You and a few others don't mind tossing the borax but appear to not like it in return. Put me on blocked list if i annoy so so much, its a great function Edited November 12, 2020 by JJ Flash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, JJ Flash said: As my detractors, Noodlum,Happy and Chief have not bagged my posts this week-- a miracle by their standards I'm thinking it best not to tempt fate with what i know on the subject. Greg- where is my bloody PM function Chief , oh thats right im not allowed it back. sentenced to life in the naughty corner ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 minutes ago, Rangatira said: sentenced to life in the naughty corner ? Is their any chance of parole Ranga??, pls advise by PM. Oh shit that's right I'm banned from PMs on here, see you at court at some point and you can give me opinion then😄😄 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 30 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: Is their any chance of parole Ranga??, pls advise by PM. Oh shit that's right I'm banned from PMs on here, see you at court at some point and you can give me opinion then😄😄 being anywhere near a court makes me nervous Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 28 minutes ago, Rangatira said: being anywhere near a court makes me nervous Should engage Kotare now or wait😄😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 hours ago, JJ Flash said: I was trying to find a polite word for wankers Therein possibly one of your issues, or at least a factor Mikie 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 27 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: Should engage Kotare now or wait😄😄 mervyn "sticky" glue is your man 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 hour ago, JJ Flash said: Oh shit that's right I'm banned from PMs on here Well what do expect when I was informed that you were using the PM function to slag BOAY and encourage posters to leave. Similar to the RIU modus operandi. Allowing you to do that would be a bit like lending my car to you so you could go screw my partner. Yeah na you won't cuckold me. Now that isn't a restriction on free speech because you can still post your crap for everyone to see. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 hours ago, JJ Flash said: You are clearly in touch with hierarchy as am i but their are limits as to what you can say as much is told un secrecy. Which explains your propensity to regurgitate their propaganda without any cogent analysis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said: Well what do expect when I was informed that you were using the PM function to slag BOAY and encourage posters to leave. Similar to the RIU modus operandi. Allowing you to do that would be a bit like lending my car to you so you could go screw my partner. Yeah na you won't cuckold me. Now that isn't a restriction on free speech because you can still post your crap for everyone to see. i was just thinking he would have got less for impregnating your wife 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Rangatira said: i was just thinking he would have got less for impregnating your wife Rest assured any partner of mine would see through JJ in a Flash. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 2 hours ago, JJ Flash said: HTP and Flagship have been on it for 2 years plus now. Flagship Uberalles was one of the nicest and most insightful posters here or on Scoobie's dung heap before he walked. He saw through you. 2 hours ago, JJ Flash said: You and a few others don't mind tossing the borax but appear to not like it in return. Keep it coming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 Posted November 12, 2020 Share Posted November 12, 2020 3 hours ago, Mikie said: Perhaps we should all do that? Good luck with that on here Mate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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