Davis Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/124430317/police-investigating-complaint-about-young-harness-racing-trainer-mitchell-kerr Another day, another boot in the guts for harness racing by the taxpayer-funded Stuff. MVB has co-written another piece. Again, like the story earlier in the week, nothing new just regurgitation of old news. Anyone who thinks this journalist does not have an axe to grind re harness racing is mistaken. MVB, as Karrots, says has an agenda. He is against harness racing and wants to destroy it that is obvious. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karrots Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 You brought my name up here D, so I just want to say 1 last post on this, then no more. From reading those comments on Harnessed of those that are for ALL the articles to be published main stream, they seem to view it as supporting cheats. That absolutely is NOT the case. I am about fair play. Cheats repulse me. Some of these articles DO need to be published but just once maybe at most twice. But some not at all. And def not 3-4 times. Iv seen what this is all about and hence stated my disapproval. The negative spin that is only coming from The Press due to the MVB perceived influence there. If I had any influence within HRNZ I would disengage entirely with The Press and I would also advise all trainers to do so also. Ignore, ignore, ignore. THEY CANNOT BE TRUSTED. Chat with other media outlets, those that you can trust will give a balanced non biased view of the GOOD and also the BAD. This is a potential big problem long term for the industry. As I have stated before I would go to the Racing Minister regarding it. Just provide all the evidence. There is plenty of it now. Ask him for a objective view-point. I’d also be so tempted to ask MVB if he called me, to turn the questions on him. What is he trying to achieve? Why does he never right a positive article? Why does he see the need to repeat the same article multiple times? Why is he focused on Harness racing and not Greyhounds and Gallops? What does it think it will achieve writing multiple articles on the same subject? Does he think the general public are that interested in Harness to be getting multiple articles on a weekly basis on the same subject? What is his end goal? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Well, MVB needs something else to obsess about, apart from his obsession with David Bain. Forgive the pun, but that was gross overkill. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Posted March 4, 2021 Author Share Posted March 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Karrots said: You brought my name up here D, so I just want to say 1 last post on this, then no more. I agree. I will not post anymore articles by the skunk MVB. His agenda is plain to see. Sorry I if upset you mate. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 Whoever Sam Sherwood is, he needs to pull his head in and not associate with Van Beynon! We know the bloody story, why are the plonkers continuing to make it headlines every week? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Brodie said: Whoever Sam Sherwood is, he needs to pull his head in and not associate with Van Beynon! We know the bloody story, why are the plonkers continuing to make it headlines every week? Because its news. Don't shoot the messenger. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 8 hours ago, the galah said: Because its news. Don't shoot the messenger. It is not new news, just a rehash! Harness racing was promoted by The Press for such a long time Nowadays all they sant to do is castigate harness racing and its participants 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 9 hours ago, the galah said: Because its news. Don't shoot the messenger. You'd shoot a parrot if it kept repeating itself! Where's Woodham on the front foot? Where are the RIU leaks coming from? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted March 4, 2021 Share Posted March 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Noodlum said: You'd shoot a parrot if it kept repeating itself! Where's Woodham on the front foot? Where are the RIU leaks coming from? We had both better duck then. You don't seem to like this fella woodham much.Thats a plus for him in my book. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 3 hours ago, the galah said: You don't seem to like this fella woodham much.Thats a plus for him in my book. His performance record at the TAB was enough for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 23 hours ago, Karrots said: You brought my name up here D, so I just want to say 1 last post on this, then no more. From reading those comments on Harnessed of those that are for ALL the articles to be published main stream, they seem to view it as supporting cheats. That absolutely is NOT the case. I am about fair play. Cheats repulse me. Some of these articles DO need to be published but just once maybe at most twice. But some not at all. And def not 3-4 times. Iv seen what this is all about and hence stated my disapproval. The negative spin that is only coming from The Press due to the MVB perceived influence there. If I had any influence within HRNZ I would disengage entirely with The Press and I would also advise all trainers to do so also. Ignore, ignore, ignore. THEY CANNOT BE TRUSTED. Chat with other media outlets, those that you can trust will give a balanced non biased view of the GOOD and also the BAD. This is a potential big problem long term for the industry. As I have stated before I would go to the Racing Minister regarding it. Just provide all the evidence. There is plenty of it now. Ask him for a objective view-point. I’d also be so tempted to ask MVB if he called me, to turn the questions on him. What is he trying to achieve? Why does he never right a positive article? Why does he see the need to repeat the same article multiple times? Why is he focused on Harness racing and not Greyhounds and Gallops? What does it think it will achieve writing multiple articles on the same subject? Does he think the general public are that interested in Harness to be getting multiple articles on a weekly basis on the same subject? What is his end goal? How do you get an objective viewpoint of cheating,drugs and the fraud going on lately.The public are entitled to.know what is common knowledge within the industry.At the moment I wouldn't encourage even my enemies to get involved in the industry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 17 minutes ago, Richie said: How do you get an objective viewpoint of cheating,drugs and the fraud going on lately.The public are entitled to.know what is common knowledge within the industry.At the moment I wouldn't encourage even my enemies to get involved in the industry. Not exactly "widespread" is it? The cheating, drugs and fraud that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Not exactly "widespread" is it? The cheating, drugs and fraud that is. Not sure how far widespread it is but unfortunately seems to be a lot going on with trainers in Canterbury at the moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 at least the races aren't fixed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Rangatira said: at least the races aren't fixed Not that we know of!! Ranga😇 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, Rangatira said: at least the races aren't fixed Not like the old days ah.Nelson/Blenheim circuit was great if you in the know 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, Richie said: Not sure how far widespread it is but unfortunately seems to be a lot going on with trainers in Canterbury at the moment. McGrath Anderson Kerr Alford Are there any more? Out of how many licensed trainers and drivers? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 3 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: McGrath Anderson Kerr Alford Are there any more? Out of how many licensed trainers and drivers? Irrelevant but that probably 10% of professional trainers in Canterbury that probably,although no.proof,have affected over 100 owners as I know Mitchell Kerr had a few big syndicates involved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 13 minutes ago, Richie said: Irrelevant but that probably 10% of professional trainers in Canterbury that probably,although no.proof,have affected over 100 owners as I know Mitchell Kerr had a few big syndicates involved Why is it irrelevant? Hell if you think in any sport that there isn't any crossing the line then you are as naive as Galah. Where is the race fixing and widespread doping? With the latter it seems to be only themselves that are being self doped and dopey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 7 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Why is it irrelevant? Hell if you think in any sport that there isn't any crossing the line then you are as naive as Galah. Where is the race fixing and widespread doping? With the latter it seems to be only themselves that are being self doped and dopey. Irrelevant as 1 is too many,in most sport crossing the line isn't breaking the law,its breaking rules not illegal behaviour.With racing it is defrauding the public . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karrots Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Richie said: How do you get an objective viewpoint of cheating,drugs and the fraud going on lately.The public are entitled to.know what is common knowledge within the industry.At the moment I wouldn't encourage even my enemies to get involved in the industry. Hey R Im not going to comment anymore on it, but it is a good reminder for me that there are others out there with varying views, so Ill try not to be too vocal in my views on things on here lol 😄 Edited March 5, 2021 by Karrots Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 Just now, Karrots said: Hey Im not going to comment anymore on it, but it is a good reminder for me that there are others out there with varying views, so Ill try not to be so vocal in my views on things on here lol 😄 Your views are just as important as anybody and I'm definitely not saying my view is right,but I just believe that reporters have every right to report illegal activities.It is up to those involved in racing to be beyond reproach.If there wasnt so much dodgy shit going on then there wouldn't be anything to report 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 52 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Why is it irrelevant? Hell if you think in any sport that there isn't any crossing the line then you are as naive as Galah. Where is the race fixing and widespread doping? With the latter it seems to be only themselves that are being self doped and dopey. So your calling me naive ,yet your the one who continually posts views that say there is very little crossing of the line. You seem to be contradicting yourself judging by that comment. I think i must be winning the argument,at least thats how i view it,so i will stop posting on this while i'm ahead.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 1 minute ago, the galah said: So your calling me naive ,yet your the one who continually posts views that say there is very little crossing of the line. You seem to be contradicting yourself judging by that comment. I think i must be winning the argument,at least thats how i view it,so i will stop posting on this while i'm ahead.. Just realised i have my sky on delay,Bugga.so i think i should stick to watching the races. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted March 5, 2021 Share Posted March 5, 2021 11 minutes ago, the galah said: Just realised i have my sky on delay,Bugga.so i think i should stick to watching the races. Are you holding back' with your dollar bet? and gunna charge home with a late burst at Auckland for Karrots? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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