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4 hours ago, Brodie said:

Karrots, not disrespecting anyone, quite the opposite.

People in racing need to be informed of the truth as we need as many around as we can.

The reality is that it is the vaccinated that are dying overseas.

If people do not want me to post the truth on here then I will stop posting on the topic and you can just watch and see that Brodie is totally on the money.

Karrots if you still believe that the NZ Cup is more important than lives and our rights, then you have a very low expectation for your own life.

Over and out, watching the rest of Addington races, no one there because we have not had a single death from Delta or a case in the South Island for over a year!!!!!

Go figure, or be controlled!!!

Keep on posting. Arden needs to be put in the spotlight.

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10 hours ago, Ludwig said:

Keep on posting. Arden needs to be put in the spotlight.

Ludwig, that is the major problem, Ardern is constantly in the spotlight!

Every day when she thinks she is doing ok, but bad news and she doesnt front!

Seriously, all New Zealanders need to wake up to just how incompetent the current mob are.

Her fully paid advisers are just useless!

Bloomfield just a dithering clown, reading no.s that mean absolutely nothing when no mention of how many are actually crook.

What about the mental health no.s, the bankruptcies, partnership splits due to the overreaction to a mlld virus.

It is not about any virus FFS.

Shaun Hendy saying that his modelling has 60,000 hospitalisations and 7000 deaths!!!!!

What a absolute Dickhead, when there has not been a single death due to Delta!!!!!!

England deaths attributed to Delta over the last 7 months is to 63%  of Double vaccinated and will continue to grow.

You are far more likely to get crook if you have been injected than without and this will eventually comeout!!!

Brodie is on the money unfortunately!

 

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Well this Topic is well and truly stuffed now.  I'll filter off the off topic posts shortly.  However I would like to make this statement.

My advice for what it is worth:  ANYONE OVER 65 AND WITH UNDERLYING HEALTH CONDITIONS SHOULD GET VACCINATED.

I'll resist getting vaccinated for as long as I'm able.  My reasons are:

  • the vaccine has not been tested long enough under controlled trials;
  • I am at minimal risk from Covid-19 i.e. I'm willing to take my chance with the disease;
  • I have no control over the vaccination of my children who have no underlying health issues and have negligible risk from Covid-19.  There has been inadequate testing of medium and long term effects in children;
  • if you are vaccinated and I am not my vaccination status is none of your business nor does it affect your health risk;
  • I believe the freedoms that have been taken away from New Zealanders is an important issue and my resisting of vaccination is the last thing I can do to defend those freedoms;
  • I am not anti-vax for those that are aged and have underlying health conditions.
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I'm vaccinated as well.

I have made what i think is a rational decision based on what is probably the best choice for me.

I'm not blind to the arguments tossed around, I read avidly and there isn't much that gets past me, although, as a lay person only, obviously I don't have the science that some others have. 

But I have seen misinformation peddled by some who I would think should be very well informed indeed.

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I'm not vaccinated, and will not be getting it. There is no evidence that Covid is a killer to healthy people, we have been fed lie's. There is a stack of evidence the vaccine is dangerous to your immune system and long term health. It is an experiment on human kind. I do not care what the Nazi State that NZ's rapidly descending too has on its agenda for its next attack on minority's. Its as if Ardern and her cronies have taken a leaf out of the book on National Socialism from the 1930's, and you can see it all unfolding here before your eyes.

Who would of thought two years ago you would have a Government here in NZ deliberately dividing the Nation between the clean and the unclean, vaccinated, unvaccinated. Labeling the unvaccinated selfish, unclean, and not worthy of participating in society is downright evil. For those that know history, this is exactly what the Nazi's did to the Jews, separating them out of society and labeling them as unclean and carriers of disease, and the root cause of all problems. They forced them off the streets, and made them wear a yellow Star of David in public. This state of affairs is unfolding before our eyes. People are locked up by the Government and the people that are to blame for the locking up are the selfish unclean unvaccinated. This country has lost its marbles, and is rapidly descending into an abyss.

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From Israel.  The index case was fully vaccinated.

https://www.eurosurveillance.org/content/10.2807/1560-7917.ES.2021.26.39.2100822

We have investigated a nosocomial COVID-19 outbreak involving the SARS-CoV-2 Delta variant among a highly vaccinated population. The attack rate among exposed individuals reached 23.3% in patients and 10.3% in staff, with 96.2% vaccination rate among exposed individuals. Moreover, several transmissions probably occurred between two individuals both wearing surgical masks, and in one instance using full PPE, including N-95 mask, face shield, gown and gloves.

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3 hours ago, aquaman said:

 I might add, I am a believer in vaccines, always have. Just not this one, different science to all others. In fact more like frankenstein science with man playing God.

Unfortunately I will need to get the popcorn in now while I am allowed in supermarkets!

Fortunately We are in a position where not having the poison into us does not affect us too much.

It is unbelievable just how many NZ citizens have fallen for the BS about the Pfizer poison is the answer for freedom from a mild virus that has not killed a single person in NZ!!!!!

The biggest problem apart from the mega no. Of people that have already had bad side affects from the poison, is the issues that are going to be huge in the coming years.
You can not continually pump this shite into bodies without medical problems and they are.coming!

I appreciate once you have been bullied into having it injected into you, you will defend the vaccine poison.

At the end of the day, you made the choice.

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22 minutes ago, Brodie said:

At the end of the day, you made the choice.

I do admire the arguements above of you, Chief Stipe,  Aquaman standing up for your health and rights.

All round the world vaccines are the Only way governments could see a 'Way Out' of pandemic/ lockdowns , (and the bankruptcies, suicides and things you mentioned (alas for the world) ....

The side effects are certainly an issue. Penicillin (and Chlorine in pools) are also poison, that kill harmful bacteria to stop getting sick or mend ill / sick people. (I had a tooth abscess but refused the Penicillin prescribed in the end, as effects immune system )  They are toxic and kill bacteria and could damage your body cells as well , and many have allergic reactions......., and just like a virus /flu vaccine , it just comes down to choice as you say ......... be sick or well .......,be in lockdown or no-lockdown...

very much a shame if people locked down from NZ Cup !! a traditional NZ occasion and fun for all.

They still had the NRL final here in Brisbane last week-end by some miracle. (Threats of lockdown)

I'm over it .....  and still yet to be vaccinated (and you are putting me off ! lol.........)    

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2 hours ago, Honestjohn said:

I’ve double jabbed against my better judgement, BUT I have because I want to fly and also I don’t want to give it to my grandkids, however my son won’t jab, or his kids. His choice based on his investigations on the web.

hj

 

Sounds like your son has inherited your grandfathers genes. He's obviously a smart man, and not poisoning his children shows he has their future in safe hands.

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29 minutes ago, aquaman said:

Sounds like your son has inherited your grandfathers genes. He's obviously a smart man, and not poisoning his children shows he has their future in safe hands.

No he got mine, I’m Reasonably high on the Mensa scale, you do realise you won’t be able to fly without a jab card.? Or attend large gatherings.

 

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1 hour ago, Honestjohn said:

No he got mine, I’m Reasonably high on the Mensa scale, you do realise you won’t be able to fly without a jab card.? Or attend large gatherings.

 

hj

Yes I do, and flying was a big incentive for me, but researched all available information that I can absorb, and came to the conclusion that I was right, and almost the entire population of NZ are wrong. So on that basis ruled no to the experimental vaccine. Decided natural immunity will trump vaccine, so am now waiting to catch it, hopefully before next winter. Having said all that, I'm not looking forward to catching it, but realise that is inevitable, just a matter of how long. I'm not afraid of it. The real bad part for me is the total lack of therapeutics available to treat covid successfully, and there's lots out there.

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5 hours ago, Honestjohn said:

I’ve double jabbed against my better judgement, BUT I have because I want to fly and also I don’t want to give it to my grandkids, however my son won’t jab, or his kids. His choice based on his investigations on the web.

hj

 

People are not  flying overseas for a long time.

Firstly it is just to scare you just like the BS about  the xmas music events, to get the young ones to get it into YOU!

The Pfizer vaccine is not a bloody vaccine and you are delusional if you believe that it is the answer.

No  way on earth is our great Leader Ardern going to let thousands of people camping and sleeping together at a music event even with a bit lf paper that says you have had 2 injections of poison.

You can catch it and lass it on just as easily as if you havent had the poison.

Could someone kindly advise us all why Sweden and Denmark have pulled the Moderna poison from injecting i to the under 30’s?

Is it due to the very very rare heart attacks and the other effects like death???

There are actually far more cases of Pfizer myocarditis and deaths recorded but Geez lets keep pumping it into the servants in NZ!

They believe in what we are doing, dont defend yourself she said to her cohorts!

They owe it to Pfizer to have the % up by early November, or they wont get their bonus.

Hardly wait for the day of ACTION!!! 16th October isnt it?

Go on get the poison in you, it is the answer

 BAAA

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1 hour ago, Brodie said:

People are not  flying overseas for a long time.

Firstly it is just to scare you just like the BS about  the xmas music events, to get the young ones to get it into YOU!

The Pfizer vaccine is not a bloody vaccine and you are delusional if you believe that it is the answer.

No  way on earth is our great Leader Ardern going to let thousands of people camping and sleeping together at a music event even with a bit lf paper that says you have had 2 injections of poison.

You can catch it and lass it on just as easily as if you havent had the poison.

Could someone kindly advise us all why Sweden and Denmark have pulled the Moderna poison from injecting i to the under 30’s?

Is it due to the very very rare heart attacks and the other effects like death???

There are actually far more cases of Pfizer myocarditis and deaths recorded but Geez lets keep pumping it into the servants in NZ!

They believe in what we are doing, dont defend yourself she said to her cohorts!

They owe it to Pfizer to have the % up by early November, or they wont get their bonus.

Hardly wait for the day of ACTION!!! 16th October isnt it?

Go on get the poison in you, it is the answer

 BAAA

This government is the worst in history, I’m a member of the national party. You won’t get any arguments from me on most of what you say, as I said I did it for 2 reasons, which I’ve given.  My son won’t get it ( will if he wants to travel, he’s all around the country) and certainly won’t let his 12year old girl,due to fertility things he’s read.

i can’t even type the socialist bitches name, or look at her on tv. My grandfather didn’t serve 4 years in a polish p.o.w camp to put up with this shit going on, I mean , Aotea *&*&$# roa.  

He would turnin his grave

 

hj

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1 hour ago, aquaman said:

Yes I do, and flying was a big incentive for me, but researched all available information that I can absorb, and came to the conclusion that I was right, and almost the entire population of NZ are wrong. So on that basis ruled no to the experimental vaccine. Decided natural immunity will trump vaccine, so am now waiting to catch it, hopefully before next winter. Having said all that, I'm not looking forward to catching it, but realise that is inevitable, just a matter of how long. I'm not afraid of it. The real bad part for me is the total lack of therapeutics available to treat covid successfully, and there's lots out there.

FWIW it doesn’t bother me about betting the jab, you have grandkids?   I do.

 

hj

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1 hour ago, JAKH said:

Young fella even I am getting excited about the cup. It is great that Addington have invited Members along tonight - which I am going along to. I imagine you would be a Member there being such a loyal trotting man. Come up to me and say hi - I am the old bugger with the stick. Hunter will be there for sure . Better go my ride has arrived. By the way get some of those "Happy Pills" and you will be a lot brighter.

Gee You are taking a risk going out to Addington with the deadly Delta virus out there!

Michael Baker says that everyone is going to have experienced Covid19 by Xmas!! 

What an absolute plonker and a disgrace that the NZ taxpayer is paying this wasted space.

What does he and these other trough dwellers actually do except talk shite?

I personally havent known a single person that has tested positive to Alpha or Delta over the past nearly  two years, and yet everyone is going to experience it in the next couple of months???

What a loser, what I will say is that yes there is very likely be many that do get crook and it aint from any virus, it will be the crsp you are being injected with!

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1 hour ago, Honestjohn said:

 

Cup day as I’ve mentioned, I’ll Uber to a mates at 11 to be greeted with whitebait and bubbles,  he gets caterers in club Sammie’s every few hrs along with saucy rolls crayfish and Paula patties. 6 o clock he does a hot ham on the bone with a bourbon glaze, it’s heavenly. Slices in bread.  A bit of tomfoolery along the way, I’m really looking forward to it.

 

hj

Triple mask, social distance, do not spit when talking, do not get excited and dance if you collect or you will become a super spreader!

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9 minutes ago, Brodie said:

Gee You are taking a risk going out to Addington with the deadly Delta virus out there!

Michael Baker says that everyone is going to have experienced Covid19 by Xmas!! 

What an absolute plonker and a disgrace that the NZ taxpayer is paying this wasted space.

What does he and these other trough dwellers actually do except talk shite?

I personally havent known a single person that has tested positive to Alpha or Delta over the past nearly  two years, and yet everyone is going to experience it in the next couple of months???

What a loser, what I will say is that yes there is very likely be many that do get crook and it aint from any virus, it will be the crsp you are being injected with!

@Chief Stipecould you please move this to another Cup thread any of the OTHER 2 Cup threads. 

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1 hour ago, Karrotsisback said:

Well have to say can understand why peeps have left this site. 

Might have to join them. 

Go say hi to Happy and co on another site. 

Poster M, lets go. Opps he has already gone.

Karrots, what is wrong with discussing topics that relate to racing?

This Covid is more important than harness racing at the moment as  if it continues this way, forget about racing happening at all.

It is great that you are an enthusiast and want to discuss harness topics.

Your perogative and I respect your right.

I also am well and truly over the BS we get each and every day from Ardern, Bloomfield and the media.

However, I am more concerned about my fellow beings health being compromised than who wins the damn NZ Cup this year.

If you want me to stop trying to tell the truth about what is going on, then I suggest you ask Chief to have me suspended from BOAY!

Karrots perhaps you are just not prepared to accept the fact that you have been duped?

Keep posting the horsey stuff and if people want to discuss those things then that is great.

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Brodie said:

Karrots, what is wrong with discussing topics that relate to racing?

This Covid is more important than harness racing at the moment as  if it continues this way, forget about racing happening at all.

It is great that you are an enthusiast and want to discuss harness topics.

Your perogative and I respect your right.

I also am well and truly over the BS we get each and every day from Ardern, Bloomfield and the media.

However, I am more concerned about my fellow beings health being compromised than who wins the damn NZ Cup this year.

If you want me to stop trying to tell the truth about what is going on, then I suggest you ask Chief to have me suspended from BOAY!

Karrots perhaps you are just not prepared to accept the fact that you have been duped?

Keep posting the horsey stuff and if people want to discuss those things then that is great.

Hi Brodie aka Im on the Spectrum.

Cant deal anymore out of here. There is another site to post on. And it is not the Dark side lol. Where JJ posts. Its where Happy, Rusty, Globe, Mardy etc post, just hope they will have me. Cant see why not, seems like a much nicer place to post. 

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26 minutes ago, Karrotsisback said:

Hi Brodie aka Im on the Spectrum.

Cant deal anymore out of here. There is another site to post on. And it is not the Dark side lol. Where JJ posts. Its where Happy, Rusty, Globe, Mardy etc post, just hope they will have me. Cant see why not, seems like a much nicer place to post. 

I am sure they will have you Karrots.

Not sure what your issues are with discussing issues that are affecting racing?

Tell you what Karrots.

You keep posting on BOAY here, and I will stop posting again for a few weeks as that seems fair enough, doesnt it??

I hope you accept this offer as I want to read what you want to post on harness!

 

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