Rangatira Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 17 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Im glad police are involved. yes they are kinda competent compared to some authorities Quote
Brodie Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 Just now, Rangatira said: because people do behave stupidly It would be pretty dumb I would think! This topic will go on for months with accusations but at the end of the day, hopefully the right outcome will occur. Might make it easier for the TAB to shut Harness down! 2 Quote
Rangatira Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Brodie said: Might make it easier for the TAB to shut Harness down! I can see an upside for you in that. I can't imagine many people with half a clue thinking that the dunn and purdon stable are getting their heads together to fix races let alone with 6 other canterbury stables did they raid 5 stables over blue magic only to find how much blue magic Edited September 4, 2018 by Rangatira Quote
hunterthepunter Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 fixing races nah johny and dexter not into that always trying to beat the other buggers 2 Quote
Rangatira Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 Christchurch car industry king pin, racehorse owner and major punter Graham Beirne, speaking to Stuff from Bali where he is on holiday, said he had heard about the raids on Canterbury trainers and knew police wanted to interview him. "I'm a suspect put it that way. The police have been to our place this morning but I'm not there. All I have to say is one word: nonsense. "I don't know where it's coming from. If they are talking race fixing, it's nonsense. It doesn't happen, so we'll see what they come up with but they are obviously taking it seriously because they have raided stables all over the place." Four police cars and 12 police officers had come to his Fendalton house to execute a search warrant on Tuesday morning and apparently seized computers and devices, he said. "There is nothing to worry about. "I am a big bettor. They would pick on me probably because three or four years ago there was an article in the Sunday Star Times which said I was the most successful punter in New Zealand and they couldn't beat me, and that was true at the time. "But I haven't made any money in the last two years. The TAB records will show that." Race fixing may have occurred in the distant past but checks and balances in the current system made it too difficult, he said. The other issue in the industry was doping but he didn't know anything about that. Beirne said he would not return immediately to New Zealand and planned to come back as scheduled on Saturday. "By all accounts they are going to meet me at the airport." He said he was "flippant" about the investigation but "I feel sorry for the trainers involved. I feel bad for the guys and the people they are interviewing. It's their livelihood. It's terrible for them". "It tarnishes all their reputations even if nothing is found which there won't be." He didn't know if any other big punters were part of the investigation. "I'm a reclusive creature so I don't know who else. "It's a game for me although you always need the money. I like beating the system. It's only pacers and trotters." He had about 30 horses that were trained by a number of trainers, he said. "I don't need to race fix. I've got the pension now." Quote
Rangatira Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 38 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: what man?? Police executed search warrants on stables in Canterbury, Invercargill and Manawatū. Figures interviewed included Natalie Rasmussen, John Dunn, Blair Orange and Nigel McGrath. Quote
hunterthepunter Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rangatira said: Police executed search warrants on stables in Canterbury, Invercargill and Manawatū. Figures interviewed included Natalie Rasmussen, John Dunn, Blair Orange and Nigel McGrath. john blair nigel all clean 1 Quote
Rangatira Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 Michael Guerin @GuerinSports 11m11 minutes ago More Multiple sources have now confirmed to me leading NZ driver Blair Orange has been arrested, charges with race fixing or similar and released on bail. He won last season’s premiership. Police press conference in 5 minutes. Quote
Richie Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 14 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: john blair nigel all clean Blair has been arrested and charged,And word on the street is that your trainer not looking good Pete, Mark P hasn't been spoken too even though they were at his stable and Nat has been spoken too but no charges laid but investigations are continuing John and Dexter along with 2 other Canterbury stables are still under investigation 3 Quote
Brodie Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 Word could be out that the $2 ew punter known as “The Brodster” could well be questioned! Not too sure when he was given a tip that he backed though? 2 Quote
Rangatira Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Brodie said: Word could be out that the $2 ew punter known as “The Brodster” could well be questioned! Not too sure when he was given a tip that he backed though? sing out if you want me to send your betting disguises to you in bali Edited September 4, 2018 by Rangatira Quote
Guest CrossCodes Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 Everyone knows how dodgy McGrath is, has been in trouble for all the wrong reasons for a long time so it would be no surprise to see him in trouble again. Dunns the same, dodgy all the way so no surprises there either. Blair always comes across squeaky clean, guess sometimes its the quiet ones you have to look out for, the whole thing makes me sick and makes you wonder why you bother betting at all when clearly some of the results are decided before the race is run. Quote
Brodie Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 10 minutes ago, Rangatira said: sing out if you want me to send your betting disguises to you in bali Brodie doesn’t have any disguises! Brodie is upfront with everything, never any dodgy tactics from him! 1 1 Quote
Nowornever Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 44 minutes ago, Rangatira said: Michael Guerin @GuerinSports 11m11 minutes ago More Multiple sources have now confirmed to me leading NZ driver Blair Orange has been arrested, charges with race fixing or similar and released on bail. He won last season’s premiership. Police press conference in 5 minutes. What a load of bullshit he would be one of the cleanest guys I know. 1 Quote
Rangatira Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Nowornever said: What a load of bullshit he would be one of the cleanest guys I know. chances are you are on the money but your character reference will hold little weight if this actually gets to trial Quote
gee Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 (edited) the invercargill lot have been cleared by police Edited September 4, 2018 by gee Quote
Rangatira Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 Michael Guerin Retweeted Garrick Knight @GarrickRKnight 1h1 hour ago More Can confirm at LEAST five arrests have been made in Canterbury - four of them drove in races last season, three of them hold trainers licenses. Quote
Group One Winner Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 Michael Guerin (@GuerinSports) Tweeted: RT @GarrickRKnight: Can confirm at LEAST five arrests have been made in Canterbury - four of them drove in races last season, three of them… https://twitter.com/GarrickRKnight/status/1036807197550735362?s=17 Quote
gee Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 John Dunn, Andrew Stuart, Nigel McGrath and Ken Barron Quote
Nowornever Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Rangatira said: chances are you are on the money but your character reference will hold little weight if this actually gets to trial What are the chances of the RIU getting the wrong end of the stick "AGAIN" and going off half cocked without the evidence to back it up and hoping the police can find something for them? End result lots of damaged reputations and nothing to show for it! 1 Quote
globederby12 Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Nowornever said: What are the chances of the RIU getting the wrong end of the stick "AGAIN" and going off half cocked without the evidence to back it up and hoping the police can find something for them? End result lots of damaged reputations and nothing to show for it! My thoughts exactly. Quote
gee Posted September 4, 2018 Posted September 4, 2018 from what i heard this car guy and him and andrew stuart in pretty big shit 1 1 Quote
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